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post May 18 2013, 06:28 PM, updated 13y ago

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All rig will be update on a weekly basis and please forgive us for some delay update ; our contributor might be busy from time to time on their stuff.

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[Monitor resolution]

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Update 1: Prices and parts listed here are outdated and may not reflect current market status. Updating is in progress.

Update 2: I have removed some contributor builds, since they are redundant and to keep the post streamlined. tongue.gif


Added on November 23, 2012, 8:29 pmCredit to -kytz- updated on 18 May 2013

*All rig upgrade with 1TB WD HDD*

Gaming rig

1.5k leisure gaming w LCD
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RM1.5k
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RM2k
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RM2.5k
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RM3k
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RM3.5K
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RM4.5K
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RM6K
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Web PC
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Added on November 23, 2012, 8:39 pmCredits to SARX

SARX RM 1500 Budget Gaming Aug 20 2012
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SARX RM 3000 Budget Gaming Aug 21 2012
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Added on November 23, 2012, 8:48 pmCredits to Cable707

THEMED RIG

MY RECOMMENDATION AS OF 20/08/12

I've decided to recommending a themed rig.any comments or improvent are most welcomed

M-ATX Black/Red themed rig (RM5000)

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ATX Blue/White Themed Rig (RM5000)
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Asus TUF Basis Themed Rig(RM5600)
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Pure Evil Blackened Themed Rig(RM6800)
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ROG Vengeance Themed Desktop(Full Set)(RM9400)
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Added on November 23, 2012, 8:54 pmCredits to TristanX
My builds as at 26/12/2012

- Added Budget gaming build with GPU promo.

Nettop/download rig/home made NAS
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Non gaming
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Budget gaming
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Gaming:
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Extreme gaming
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Workstation/server
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Used C-Zone/Viewnet price list

Please take note the price may be cheaper after you do the bargain with the shop.

Added on November 23, 2012, 9:01 pmMy recommendation as of 26/11/12 (updated):

Changelogs:
1. Some price changes
2. New build: Budget HTPC gamer
3. Replaced the TX750M in the RM5K micro-SLI gamer to a Rosewill Capstone 750W for the same price.

The RM750 Everyday rig:-
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The 1.5K no-frills HTPC build:
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The 2K mATX gamer:
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The 2.7K mATX gamer:
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The 3.5K mATX overclocker:
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The 3.4K mITX gamer:
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The 3.5K little mITX gamer:
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The RM4K Mini Fortress Gamer:
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The RM5K micro-SLI gamer:
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The RM6K micro-SLI Fortress gamer:
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The RM7K Extreme Mini Gamer:
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The 1.5K HTPC Gamer
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More builds will be added soon.
Please notify me for any significant changes in pricing.

New! Price lists for computer parts:
AllIT/C-Zone/Cycom/Jayacom/PCZone/Startec/Viewnet (KL): http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/priceLists
Swisspac (PG): http://www.swisspac.com.my/home/
Navotech (Johor/Melaka): http://www.navotech.com.my/

Note: Anyone may post or upload a scan of the price list of the stores if possible. The link to each price lists will be posted here. wink.gif

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post May 18 2013, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(CheaTeRz @ May 18 2013, 06:32 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

congrats on new version, keep up the good work  thumbup.gif icon_idea.gif

keeping my eyes close on this one  shocking.gif

EDIT: btw, does those list on the first thread according to the latest pricing?
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Nope, but I'm trying to keeping up with the pricing. tongue.gif
I have to remove some builds since they are redundant. tongue.gif
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post May 18 2013, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(CheaTeRz @ May 18 2013, 06:50 PM)
thought so, well good luck with that, since it was such a long list  sweat.gif

anyway, never seen anyone put up AMD APU setup, what do you think of this one comparing price-performance value for a light gamer, (DOTA 2 is the heaviest)
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RM1.3k - AMD APU setup
AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz - RM499
ASRock FM2A75M-DGS - RM199
Avexir 8GB PC1866 TWINS 2X - RM249
FSP HEXA 500W - RM149
Seagate 500GB SATA 3 - RM159
CASING - RM100+-
RM13xx
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You'd better getting Intel... at RM1.3K... It's just make it hard to recommend.
APUs are actually worth it if you are going into HTPCs and very small form factor builds, where a discrete GPU is out of the question. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ May 18 2013, 06:54 PM)
Good to see it continues smile.gif
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I am now updating the parts lists right now... Will be presented in Google Docs... tongue.gif
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post May 18 2013, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(CheaTeRz @ May 18 2013, 07:00 PM)
basically, i watched from teksyndicate youtube where they recommend several time of APU system with really nice price around $350(around RM1085?) only with some really nice spec

i tried to build with Malaysia available H/W around same spec and this is the best i could get :/
maybe pricing at Malaysia are much higher compared overseas tongue.gif

you see, I could say i'm the most computer literate among my friends and always been asked for the cheapest computer system for DOTA 2 at considerably high setting

so i thought APU is the solution, unfortunately the price still high :/
than what casing is the best for these setup anyway?
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Silverstone ML03? brows.gif
But it's HTPC size one... tongue.gif
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post May 23 2013, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ May 23 2013, 12:16 AM)
target game is crysis 3 1080p at high 60fps, and metro last light very high 1080p 60fps
needs at least a gtx680
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He will need a GTX Titan/upcoming 780 for that, or a dual GPU setup to do that.
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post May 23 2013, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(joeboto @ May 23 2013, 05:12 PM)
orrrrrr should i wait another 2 3 months for haswell and gtx7 series to arrive?

did anyone catch up on the sandy bridge price after ivy comes out? did the price went down a lot or just a little?
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Even if you wait for GTX700 series, the high end ones will be released. You will need to wait for quite a while before it trickles down to lower tier cards. tongue.gif
I don't think the prices of SB dropped much despite the launch of IB. But Haswell boards can be slightly more expensive at launch.
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post Jun 3 2013, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(cressalve @ Jun 3 2013, 09:51 PM)
Hello guys,

My mobo and 1 of my graphic card has finally given up on me and I need replacement soon. I'm planning to reuse my hardware excluding the cpu, mobo & gpu. If possible i want to have an upgraded system than i originally have within the budget of 2k-2.5k, lesser the better. Intel cpu and nvidia gpu preferred. Or anything better in your opinion.

Please give me some suggestions. Thanks guys.

EDIT: forgot to mention, my pc spec is as per my sig below.
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Can you sell the CPU/GPU and board? brows.gif
Haswell in da house yo~ brows.gif
i5 4670K-RM719 (Idealtech@Garage Sales)
MSI Z87A-G45 Gaming-RM553 (GBros@Garage Sales)
Palit GTX770 reference-RM1499 (CyntrixTech)
Total: RM2771
Overclockable build yo~ brows.gif
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post Jun 3 2013, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(cressalve @ Jun 3 2013, 10:13 PM)
Haswell? New architecture I suppose? Not following much of current tech haha last I know is Ivy Bridge luls How does 3570k compares to that chip u suggested? And phew... 770? also new tech rite? how does 660ti compares to that? 
Hmm, my PSU is doing great till now *touchwood* well, until my gpu blew anyways haha
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Slightly faster than the 3570K. tongue.gif
But it comes with a new socket. icon_idea.gif

The 770 is basically an overclocked 680 in disguise, but cheaper. tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jun 5 2013, 11:35 AM)
Hey all,

I think it's time for me to jump back into PC gaming, it's been more than 10 years since I last built my own PC and times have changed so much.

I'm not into too fancy stuff but would like to have good performance, small form factor gaming pc. Can any Guru / Sifu here help suggest a rig build? here are my requirements:

Budget: RM 5k
1.) Small Form Factor Case - i live in a very cramp space >_> but i like it to be tidy as well. The size should be comparable to something like a Alienware X51
2.) i5 or i7 CPU - I do play wii games using dolphin and it's very CPU dependent
3.) 7970 or GTX 680 GPU - I'm ok with stock clocks but would be nice bonus if there are room to OC
4.) PSU 500w - i'm also looking into upgradability in the future
5.) motherboard - i'm completely clueless on this one, it should obviously be small enough to fit into the SFF case and allow CPU upgrades later on.
6.) 8 GB DDR3 1600mhz - please suggest a brand for this
7.) HDD 120GB SSD + 1TB HD - please suggest a brand for this
8.) HeatSink, Cooling, Fans - no idea what to use
9.) Optical drive - this is optional
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1. The X51 is about 10 litres in volume, and a comparable case would be only the SG05. The SG05 would only fits a 10 inch card, which means your option would be:
(a) GTX670 DirectCU mini
(b) Any reference GTX770 (warning: very tight fit, and may requires modding)
(b) Any reference GTX680

2. i7 doesn't make a difference in emulation, and they are dependent on single-threaded performance.

3. Read (1).

4. You won't be able to get a >500W PSU for the SG05 since this one is a SFX unit. However, if you are willing to go bigger, take a look at the SG08 instead. That one comes with a 600W SFX unit, which is aplenty for single GPU setups, including overclocking.

5. Take a look at the ASRock Z87E-ITX for the board.

6. Any low-profile DDR3 8GB 1600 should make it fine. tongue.gif

7. You have some choices on the SSD:
(a) Plextor M5S
(b) Crucial M4
© Samsung 830/840/840 Pro (Though I cannot recommend it since warranty can be an issue)
(d) Intel 330/335/520
For HDDs, it is recommended to get a 2.5 inch drive for that. WD Scorpio Blue 1TB should be OK.

8. For CPU cooler, you would need to go closed-loop watercooling since air cooling would be too large to fit inside the case. Antec Kuhler 620 should be fine and it should be an easy fit into the case, since the tubings are quite bendable.

9. There's no need for an optical drive, since slim optical drives are expensive (cheapest one would be RM299). Use an external one instead.
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jun 5 2013, 11:35 AM)
Hey all,

I think it's time for me to jump back into PC gaming, it's been more than 10 years since I last built my own PC and times have changed so much.

I'm not into too fancy stuff but would like to have good performance, small form factor gaming pc. Can any Guru / Sifu here help suggest a rig build? here are my requirements:

Budget: RM 5k
1.) Small Form Factor Case - i live in a very cramp space >_> but i like it to be tidy as well. The size should be comparable to something like a Alienware X51
2.) i5 or i7 CPU - I do play wii games using dolphin and it's very CPU dependent
3.) 7970 or GTX 680 GPU - I'm ok with stock clocks but would be nice bonus if there are room to OC
4.) PSU 500w - i'm also looking into upgradability in the future
5.) motherboard - i'm completely clueless on this one, it should obviously be small enough to fit into the SFF case and allow CPU upgrades later on.
6.) 8 GB DDR3 1600mhz - please suggest a brand for this
7.) HDD 120GB SSD + 1TB HD - please suggest a brand for this
8.) HeatSink, Cooling, Fans - no idea what to use
9.) Optical drive - this is optional

edit: actually i looked up on the net and found some suggestion builds. Here's a sample
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the price is obviously USD but are these component sourceable in lowyat / Malaysia?
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I think you can get the z77i deluxe here IINM... Try looking at Garage Sales for that. Still, why are you looking at older CPUs where Haswell is already here. tongue.gif
Yes, those parts can be procured here, except for the CPU fan, but you can use the Antec 620 closed-loop cooler for that. brows.gif

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QUOTE(GBros @ Jun 5 2013, 12:28 AM)
Will bring in more choices for Rosewill PSUs.

Most probably will take Zotac's GPU. hmm.gif

Phanteks is doing damn good this time for their chassis lineup but lack of marketing.
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brows.gif Can't wait for new parts to come here... rclxm9.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(RowanPaladin @ Jun 5 2013, 12:08 PM)
Intel Core i5 4670K RM729
Asus Z87M-Plus RM690
Plextor M5S 128GB - 299
WD Blue 1TB RM187
Leadtek GTX770 3GB RM1499
Corsair TX750M / Rosewill Tachyon 750w - RM400~
Silverstone TJ08E - RM350
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Why go for reference GTX770 when you can get the Palit Jetstream one for the same price? GBros has them... brows.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2836324

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QUOTE(RowanPaladin @ Jun 5 2013, 12:16 PM)
Never did like the triple fan design of the Jetstreams. :/ But yeah, if TS wants to get it, why not. Though I would recommend water-cooling since he's going SFF.
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...then the Palit reference one lo... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jun 5 2013, 12:27 PM)
thanks for the great replies all. Man, water cooling sounds pretty tough, I have not assembled any liquid cooling before. Are those already in a package with liquid inside and completely sealed off? or do i have to manage the liquid myself?
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Closed-loop doesn't require much maintenance after all...
The liquid is actually sealed FYI... I think following the manual should work.
Yes, they come in a package IINM.
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QUOTE(thxxht @ Jun 5 2013, 12:36 PM)
That's great, i just looked it up, seems to be quite easy to install.
It seems to cover CPU only? does that mean the GPU is still fan cooled?

sorry, new here, but what's IINM?
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IINM=if I'm not mistaken. wink.gif
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QUOTE(AlphaLambda @ Jun 5 2013, 05:55 PM)
Need an advise to upgrade my PC:

[Budget]  < RM 1500

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardware that will be reuse from old rig] 1TB HD Drives, DVD player, GC GT 430
--> Currently use 350W PSU (Should i upgrade it?)

[Monitor resolution] Not needed

[Game or software that use frequently] FarCry, Dota2, Crysis, etc

[Personal Preference Brand] None

[Location] KL
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Sell off your GPU and the PSU. Both are unfit for gaming, and you can get some cash from there. tongue.gif
i3 3220-RM369
MSI H61M-P31/W8-RM155
Kingston 1x4GB Value-RM89
-Reuse HDD-
Palit GTX650Ti Boost 2GB-RM575 (GBros@Garage Sales)
-No optical drive-
CM K280 Casing-RM128
Corsair CX500-RM195 (Idealtech@Garage Sales)
Total: RM1511

Bear in mind Crysis 3 and Far Cry 3 are both CPU and GPU demanding.

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QUOTE(Raiko @ Jun 5 2013, 08:13 PM)
Guys, need your opinion on this build :

Intel Core i7 4770K RM1029
Corsair Hydro H100i RM499
PLEXTOR M5S 128G RM 299
ASUS H87M-E RM 380
Fractal Design Define R4 RM 369
Leadtek GTX780 RM2399
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM194
8GB Value RAM RM 174
Seasonic S12II 620W RM299

Anything to switch to be better value for money ? Thanks in advance.
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1. Downgrade the Hydro H100i, and go for the Noctua NH-D14. It is quite a bit cheaper, RM289, and performs slightly worst than a H100i.
2. That board does not have overclocking capability. You will need a Z87 board to do so.
3. GPU is fine, and you can consider Palit GTX780 from GBros if you want to. Stock will be ready next week. brows.gif
4. Games do not take advantage of HyperThreading. You can get a i5 4670K, and you still have identical frame rates.

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