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ar188
post May 18 2013, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ May 18 2013, 09:53 AM)
you want to try fedex? They charging me minimum 90 just to send document to USA. This is using cooperate account with 25% discount lol
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mahal nia!! can get even more discount.. brows.gif
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post May 18 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 18 2013, 11:34 AM)
no i'm online buyer so less effected. have some stuff wanna let go now wanna relook at my "free international shipping" policy lol.

so what you selling? must be small items. Jewels? Accessories? Condoms???

anyway even if Malaysia post is free, it's quite hard for Malaysians to compete internationally.

import goods need tax
goods imported need to pay more to distributor
goods also left over

how to compete with China, Hong Kong when they can get their stuff dirt cheap?
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because you tarak add value to your product.. just trading by bring in from china also.. have to change your concept.
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post May 18 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(jAkUn @ May 18 2013, 11:37 AM)
POS Malaysia previously offering the cheapest courier option among other courier.
Now they no longer offering the cheapest, but becoming expensive, so people rage??

Go opt for another courier services la, show them who's the boss, instead of raging and complaining. Its not like we dont have any choices pon.

TnT still got. efficient what.
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jakun also use tnt ar? biggrin.gif europe to MY quite competitive rates..
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post May 18 2013, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 18 2013, 11:41 AM)
me no seller but i wonder how to add value to your product when, you are just selling products, and all buyers care is great pricing and okok customer service. Buyers nowadays know they are paying peanuts and only expect the minimum from sellers when comes to customer service.

nowadays china seller all very fast reply, resend item (or so they claim they've resent) on broken parts, the offer free post, how to compete? the fact that many of them can get stock backdoor from factories means they can sell stuffs at 50cent and still profit.

again we tok about small time business, not ur milliondollar deals ya?

then we have all the red tapes, import permits, import tax, quota, this & that. original cost to import already higher than other countries somemore have to add this & that. current situation in Malaysia already shows malaysia can't compete internationally. most companies only cari makan locally unless they branch out to other tax heaven countries like HK & Singapore or Bermuda.
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no need multi million la. even few hundred bucks item from china also can ma..
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post May 18 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 18 2013, 11:45 AM)
erm accessories like phone cover, or mp3 players?

maybe time to move up to higher profit margin products?
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yup.. maybe look into things selling 500 and up.. higher sales figure item or higher profit margin item..
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post May 18 2013, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 18 2013, 11:46 AM)
for example? how u can compete with higher cost by importing few hundred bucks item from china and add value to international buyers?
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for example.. bring in custom electronic boards at few hundred usd.. get the metal stamping guys to make the custom casing and bracket (value added).. to meet the client dimension, add some protection circuit board (custom made - value added), specify open frame power supply, fit every thing in the casing, pack in export carton sell for 4 figure usd.
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post May 18 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 18 2013, 12:11 PM)
tat is no longer small time business liao.

it's something like assembly work liao.

need to gather big orders in order to proceed with the work. figure out the distribution & marketing. higher risk due to unproven track records.

becum like entrepreneur class liao.

not as easy as reselling.
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why need big orders?
i just given you example of a 3pcs order shipped to SG customer.. later they ordered another 5pcs.
hole up in RM500-600 1st floor shoplot also can ma.. one part time worker come jaga the shop.

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post May 18 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 18 2013, 12:19 PM)
anyway that is no longer added value service liao, it's like custom manufacture/assembling.

maybe a good electrical engineer can do it. maybe.

most people who can do it won't be reading here anyway.

too bad malaysia dun have so much talents compared to western countries. life is too good for them that they can afford whole year studying vtec engines and give modding service. here just copy pasta.
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if that is not example of value added service, then what is? open your eyes more ler.. if not how to earn even basic amount like 2-3k usd (which is like starting pay of US grads or those in 1st world)
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post May 18 2013, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(tonytan08 @ May 18 2013, 12:17 PM)
correct it wasnt a online trading business base , it is so call entrepreneur business,
which involve high capital , cost.  if i got capital i sure play this game, but most of us is still climbing from bottom .
how to tahan the giant hit..
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i wasnt suggesting it as online trading, I told him to add value to his products n sell..
this kind of business , from 1 laptop also can generate.. all the PCB schematics generate from PC.. all the mechanical drawing from same PC.. most valuable knowhow is in the person's head.. every thing sub out to the local service or even overseas.. from making PCB to metal fabrication..
if overseas use DHL/Fedex/TNT 1-2day delivery is your friend to make it meet schedule all the items come together..

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post May 18 2013, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 18 2013, 12:35 PM)
value added service...

the one you mention is clearly manufacturing/assembly.

or at best you call it service provider who assembles electronics up to client's spec & hopefully not many people can provide the same service.

value added service are more towards things that doesn't come original with the sales, like after service sales, free gifts, warranty & support, special request etc, the value added service i see in your example would at most be the customizing area, in the end it's still heavy on manufacturing/assembling.
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pls relearn your definition, yes manufacturing is one form of value added. didnt the GST/VAT examples tell you about value added TAX?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/value-added
Definition of VALUE-ADDED
: of, relating to, or being a product whose value has been increased especially by special manufacturing, marketing, or processing <value–added goods>
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QUOTE(AceKendy @ May 20 2013, 11:48 AM)
well you see,
cheap products use cheap courier service, (kangaroo)
normal product use normal courier service, (skynet, citylink)
premium product use premium courier service. (DHL, Fedex)

if need to ship to oversea then no choice, have to use DHL or Fedex.

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bro, you send locally mostly? what products wor?
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post May 20 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(AceKendy @ May 20 2013, 11:59 AM)
chemicals sample (local, oversea) *none-flammable*
filters sample (local, oversea)
tinted films sample (mostly local~singapore)
some hardware mobo, gpu, waterblocks (local)

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wah chemicals also air courier? wah..
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post May 20 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(AceKendy @ May 20 2013, 12:18 PM)
usually 1L , need MSDS to prove that its none-flammable else will be detain and denied.
if large quantity such as 600L, need to use cargo logistics (asia pacific etc) ship liao, DHL and Fedex sibeh expensive to ship in container.

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wah chemical taiko..

dat day i saw one huge pellet in courier company, pellet fully surrounded by ice pack.. dunno what is inside. biggrin.gif

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