the price is normally price skyrocket, coz thats how every new phone by nokia price at, just wait after a month or two n drop like crazy.

besides, GDR3 only for phablet or all nokia w8 phone??

GDR3 is meant for every phone dude

That's the beauty of Windows Phone. All phones will get updates, but you still can be screwed up by carriers if they don't want to release the updates. Thankfully that Malaysia phones are not tied to carriers so we won't get screwed.

You been getting screwed like since the first lumia phone. It takes forever to release an update

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Sep 20 2013, 08:40 AM

because it say GDR3 for quad core, afraid it may not support to 1020. juz like lumia 800, cant update to w8.0.

Can any1 tell me what is the file size for 41mp img? I wan to get the idea how many 41mp photos can be store in 1 day before transfer to other storage.

i wan to buy the preorder.. but black color grip, will it look weird if phone and grip diff color? i dont wish the same fate happen to me when i bought lumia 800 and cannot update to next version of wp.

all lumia phones are dual core.

so i believe M$ wont be so stupid to make an update which no phones in the market currently can support

gdr3 is features update mean now wp8 support for quad proc and 1080p. Besides that 2 features, it got rotation lock and other features which will support all across wp8 devices.

this is not kernel or core update. When your phone no radio chip, how to support for radio fm? If yout screen resolution 720p, how to support 1080p?

actually why ms screw up from wp7 to wp8 is core kernel change. They rewrite/modify from rt kernel using wp7 ui and structure. And why they don't support single core? Sure can support if they modify like gdr3 but ms don't want invest more time in no future proof thing. U still can get single core android or single core pc? Since the price of single core with low entry dual core is almost same, they just go ahead with this decision. Somemore dual core can have longer future proof if they add more feature in future. 512mb ram sure enough just ms can control how many to run concurrently but not proc speed.

they better screw up when they got less than 2% market share that time rather to screw up 10% in future.

This post has been edited by xSean: Sep 20 2013, 09:41 AM

same statement, when windows phone with dual core release on the market with 8.0, all current windows phone with 1 core not able to update to 8.0.

So when 1520 release with quad core, i afraid next windows update will be for quadcore only, leaving the dual core wp die like the past of lumia first series.

The reason why WP7 could not upgrade to WP8 is not because of Processor Core, but the Programming Core aka Kernel. Like what xSean mentioned.

WP7 is using Windows CE kernel
WP8 is using Windows NT kernel.

Both are not compatible.

Besides that GDR3 mean to fix some shortcomings of WP8 (no rotation lock) and add more hardware support for new phone in the future.

Thanks for the clear and detail info. Yes, if already make decision to purchase, don't look back and just enjoy your device. Whatever device will eventually drop price, if already decided to purchase and need to get it immediately then don't look back. If can wait, then just wait until "cannot wait" ahahaha.

For this 1020, I can only say:
The main target should be the predecessor, the Nokia 808 PureView Customers. They should grab these customers so that they STAY with Nokia. These customers are not WP users, does Nokia-Microsoft want the customer's to TRY and switch to Lumia series PureView?
If these customers somehow jump to another platform, Nokia just lost their customer base,... just like how they did when they switch to WP and looses a lot of their Symbian Customers (that's also one major reason why Samseng become successful; majority of their customers are from Nokia)
Now is the time they need to grab more customers into their Lumia series, in terms of Camera features, the Z1 is marketing it and the Galaxy S4 Zoom (of course this is bulky); If the customers didn't choose Lumia because of the price, Nokia-Microsoft just lost potential customers again.

Another important factor is, for those people who just 'switch' platform, say from Symbian, iOS, BB, etc. Imagine if the chosen the Android alternative because of 1020 pricing. Once they 'started' the new platform, they setup their 'accounts', they start to invest/downloads their apps and customize their Androids.
It's even harder for them to switch to WP next time, especially for those who started investing into apps/games; switching platform means their purchases all goes to waste because they have to 'start over' at WP platform.
I wonder if Nokia-Microsoft realizes this important criteria? I inform Nokia's staff before about this importance since WP7, but not sure if it reaches which level.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 20 2013, 09:59 AM

Well, they DID release an update for WP 7 up to 7.8 no?
And if you are asking why WP 7 is not given update to WP 8, then please read xSean's post to get clearer explanation.
So I guess it is fine to get screwed by Android but not Windows Phone? I don't get it bro.

+1 agreed

most of those who hang out in this section, i would say about 90% are nokia / WP supporters. some might be ex-android / IOS users.

so for the current supporters and users to disagree on the pricing strategy of the so called HERO MODEL.
i doubt the new possible users who once considered about WP / Nokia would not be happy to accept this price range at something that they are no longer confident on (WP)

Nokia is no longer at its golden age, during those times when people spend 2-3k on their N-series (those are phones when nokia actually focus more on its camera capability)

This post has been edited by ahnien: Sep 20 2013, 10:06 AM

Bro, that's how the technology advance. Eventually MS will have to forfeit some updates to windows phone dual core, else they will provide only partial updates to Windows Phone just like how iOS do, or just leave the phone died just like how Android do.
But so far, MS (or NOKIA to be more precise) will still provide updates to all its phones unlike other OEM who practices selective updates only.

GDR3 enables support for quad, doesn't mean it's only for quad.

Edit: Until they do a complete kernel change (not likely for at least another 3 years), you'll keep getting updates. Think Windows Update on PC.

This post has been edited by jonchai: Sep 20 2013, 10:46 AM

If I'm not mistaken the promise from MS was that all phones will get updates 2 years from it's original shipping date.

When they announced it, it was 18 months. Extended to 36 months recently.

Well, there's something you can do. Teach them a lesson by not buying. When sales drops, inventory costs go up and they will suffer a blow when the next batch comes in. They will be forced to play nice with their pricing.

In the end, it's the end users who have the say. So, vote with your wallet.