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Photography Canon EOS Family, One Big EOS Family - V56, The White Paladins' Territory!

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post Jun 1 2013, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Reix @ Jun 1 2013, 12:30 PM)
If you didn't mention 70-200, I thought you taken this with cheapo lens.
A 55-250 can take better photo than this.
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huh what do you mean by that? it was at f2.8 and 200mm. if the photo angle and composition not good enough, then it's my fault. but if you mean IQ, i don't know how to reply you.

QUOTE(thelightside @ Jun 1 2013, 12:33 PM)
hmmm its the the first version or second or the f4....
think ur pic suffer from motion blur...
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quite sure it didn't, i zoomed in into 100% crop yesterday, everything was tack sharp. its the f2.8 is II
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post Jun 1 2013, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(thelightside @ Jun 1 2013, 12:45 PM)
icic maybe its just the the image compression...
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could be tongue.gif forgive me for taking a bad picture of bird, since it's my first bird picture.
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post Jun 2 2013, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(thelightside @ Jun 2 2013, 12:25 AM)
really u mean he shoot "photos" normal angle using live view like what the guy is doing in the pic???
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Looks like he is shooting video sweat.gif
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post Jun 2 2013, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(alexlimco @ Jun 2 2013, 12:58 AM)
I don't really see anything wrong with use LV for shooting and I frequently do that for my landscapes. Recently, I've watched the great Manny Librodo doing that for his shots and I do agree that it's easier to frame and compose the shots with LV too.
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but the bad thing for LV is, the focusing of course, you can get it right with manual. The main thing I don't like with LV is the shutter delay/lag, when you press the shutter, you have to wait for the mirror to flip and the shutter to do the job, it's a lot slower than viewfinder shooting.
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post Jun 2 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Jun 2 2013, 01:56 AM)
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
But it seems pretty fine on my iPhone.
Sharpness wise pretty good too, can clearly differentiate the smaller feathers on its chest.

Composition wise, okla. it's not exactly the best but its not worth deleting.

Not to mention this is not a macro shot. I rather use a tele lens to shoot a bird then a macro lens.
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Maybe he thinks that the bokeh is not enough. But those grass/leaves are just few centimeters from the bird, so at 200mm f2.8 I couldn't think how I can make the picture looks better.
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post Jun 2 2013, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(chucky @ Jun 2 2013, 02:43 PM)
maybe the key is "less bokeh". Next time try shoot at smaller aperture biggrin.gif
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huh? that would bring all the distractions into the picture a lot more.
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post Jun 2 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(alexlimco @ Jun 2 2013, 03:11 PM)
That's how you learn to pay attention to framing and composition. smile.gif
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I didn't have the opportunity to frame as I want that time, the bird was literally hiding inside a bushes and there are quite a lot of twigs around, making my view gets really blocked. hmm... but this is not the best picture that I can make, I just wanted to try to get some bird pictures using the lens as it was my first time using it.



Sharing a macro.

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The Eyes by tuna97, on Flickr
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post Jun 2 2013, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(alexlimco @ Jun 2 2013, 05:07 PM)
Lacking depth of field. What aperture did you set your lens to before reversing it?
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it's already f9/11 if I am not wrong. I actually liked the lack of depth of field, leading the focus to the eyes only.
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post Jun 2 2013, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 2 2013, 05:32 PM)
Didn't quite work out as the eyes aren't quite visible. From what I know, fully capturing the eyes of the insects and their head is quite important. If the head was facing you(or the side) instead of the back, it could have worked IMHO smile.gif

http://www.flickr.com/photos/liewwk/308492...157607105893168

http://www.flickr.com/photos/liewwk/267944...157607105893168

http://500px.com/photo/4916125
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hmmm yeah. but i want to show the other side of the eyes, maybe it didn't worked out so well. sad.gif
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post Jun 2 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jun 2 2013, 05:38 PM)
Shooting from the front is too mainstream~ tongue.gif
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thats what in my mind that time.
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post Jun 2 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(alexlimco @ Jun 2 2013, 05:40 PM)
To me it is very distracting and the whole picture has only 10% in focus with the rest totally out of focus. sad.gif
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could be, i will try to avoid shots like that in the future, didn't work quite well.

how about this?

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post Jun 2 2013, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(alexlimco @ Jun 2 2013, 05:54 PM)
This looks good to me. Motion is depicted and the whole shot is well balanced. rclxms.gif
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Thanks! Didn't thought that this shot will turns out well, since I used the 200mm end of zoom instead of those UWA.
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post Jun 2 2013, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(alexlimco @ Jun 2 2013, 06:18 PM)
Not all landscapes and outdoor shots need to be in wide angle. Sometimes the compression of the zoom lens can bring the subject(s) more into focus instead of shooting wide. smile.gif
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yeap smile.gif when i switched to the 16-35, I don't really like the scene anymore, because the trees around are just so distracting.
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Jun 2 2013, 06:30 PM)
Technicality wise, it's ok.
DOF isn't exactly too shallow, most of the bird is in focus.
Did you increase clarity / contrast ? Doesn't seem too no d with that.

But it's not a very interesting picture
Perhaps a frontal shot, or shots of the bird flying/eating rather than just standing still will be nicer.

Of course it's easier said then done. Since you need a lot of luck and patience.
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those animals wouldn't stay there and pose for you, they can fly away anytime. so what i can do that time was to go near of it as quiet as possible then quickly grab a picture before scaring it away.
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QUOTE(alexlimco @ Jun 2 2013, 06:51 PM)
The answer my friend is in a 600mm lens or longer. tongue.gif
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haha, but the money... sweat.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPVFPI4hIMs

this might be a better solution rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Jun 2 2013, 08:45 PM)
Of course, that's why you need patience and luck.
Especially birding. Some even spend months just to get that one perfect shot.
Even with a 600mm, that won't change the fact that the birds will pose for you.
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agreed. luckily I am not a bird shooter though tongue.gif insects are way easier for photos.
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post Jun 3 2013, 09:27 PM

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http://fstoppers.com/review-you-should-wan...f2-8-sport-lens

wow, why can't canon make a lens like this?
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post Jun 4 2013, 08:13 PM

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Had a little question about manual focusing.

I am using the 550D currently, manual focusing is easy with small aperture lens (such as my 18-135), but when using the 50mm f1.8, things get a bit harder, I can still nail the shot, but the keep rate wasn't that high though.

I got interested in some manual lenses, but not sure if the small viewfinder on my 550D will make me hard to focus correctly using them. Sometimes even when the focus is right, the focus confirmation light won't light up.

I was thinking if FF cameras would make manual focusing easier?
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QUOTE(thelightside @ Jun 4 2013, 08:39 PM)
manual focusing for large aperture lens  is quite difficult when you shoot wide open regardless on FF or crop imho...
two option that I know can help...

1. easiest if you don't mind using LV to shoot install Magic lantern and use the focus peaking feature.

2. use focus screen that may help but involve tinkering with ur cam... more info here : http://www.focusingscreen.com/work/550den.htm
or the best way just get a 5d3 and use the accurate AF  tongue.gif
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how about the larger viewfinder? I read somewhere saying FF camera have larger mirrors resulting larger viewfinders, easier to manual focus.

well... of course if i had the money for 5d3 i wont use manual lenses at all tongue.gif
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QUOTE(thelightside @ Jun 4 2013, 09:06 PM)
hmmmm on my largest OVF 1D series cam (a bit larger than my 5d3) I would say maybe only large/near object with easy to see distinct contrasty object maybe only can accurately MF...but as things get smaller/further MF using the ovf and shooting wide open is imho quite difficult without appropriate focus screen...maybe somebody with god skill can do it lol... laugh.gif

why not just try Magic lantern focus peaking? don't like shoot LV or u shoot fast moving subject?
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nah i don't shoot fast moving subjects, but i don't really like shooting in LV, feels not so comfortable in holding the camera in such position. i shoot some portraits, but main thing would be macro. i don't really shoot far subjects so yeah most of the time manual focusing is still ok for me.

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