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post May 15 2013, 05:52 PM

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Bro Iz, our car now also under Alliance on 3rd to 5th year. Need to pay 200 for every claim. So touchwood any symptom now better go claim fast fast.

As for the VG sirip yu, production is 1 to 2 weeks. Shipment is 6 to 10 days with tracking number, insurance. Total for all is USD 97 (USD 69 for the fin, USD 28 for the freight). One potential hidden cost (low risk) is there any tax applied in kastam. I have asked about the tax and they cannot answer, I cannot answer. Looking at Bro Iz's price, there should be no tax.

I am still clarifying with the PIC for some payment details and colour code. If you see our plate on driver door sill, you can see the chasis number, engine number and colour code. TitS code is V03 according to the plate. When I send them the code and colour name, they say they have Forte TitS metallic, but the colour code is IM, not V03.

So if once I have confirmed, I will update. Who is interested in group buy now? Please provide your detail as below. Serious buyers only please.

Example:-
Qty x Year Make Model Style - Color Name / Color Code
(Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)

1) lingleeyen (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
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3)
4)
5)

Link to pics

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/images/0015...04987_large.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/KDC...up/DSC00769.jpg
http://www.forteforums.com/forums/attachme...rk-fin-fin2.jpg

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post May 15 2013, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ May 15 2013, 06:55 PM)
Yup..i know that. NazaKia sometime ago offered Extended Warranty (another 3 years warranty also under Alliance) to all Forte owners which their cars is under standard 2 years warranty..but it comes with extra cost..RM5xx for 1.6 & RM7xx for the 2.0. Every claim also need to pay the excess fee of RM200 as others with the 5 years warranty. I ended up not opting the Extended Warranty though  sweat.gif
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Ya, I saw the hoo haa hoo haa back then. We are abit luckier in this sense.

Last time Bro Titarium, KFC, MyForte, SMK, back then the young XionCity now are all no where in sight. I still see the MyForte stickers around the KL and Selangor area. It must be one of the senior members.

You are one of the longest serving here. Haha. Mega TT, group buys, small TTs no more looo...
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post May 15 2013, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(zerohunter @ May 15 2013, 08:35 PM)
maybe they are active in fb than here
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Ya maybe. But the problem is I don't have FB. And for a personal reason I don't plan to have one. So...
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post May 16 2013, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(craxors @ May 16 2013, 08:42 AM)
if buy in bulk...i think the shipping cost will be shared rite? all items in 1 shipping cost? no?  hmm.gif

i once send my car for some part painting job...gave them the paint code..endup result is diff. color not match.  sweat.gif
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I am still asking them in details. The freight cost shall be shared but I do not think that the freight cost will still be USD 28 if you buy 20 pcs. Might be just less than USD 560 if we buy 20. Do you get what I mean? We will average out and share the total freight cost.

What I saw is minimum 5 pcs before we can get anything less than USD 97. The PIC is quite firm on the price per piece. Might be a few dollars different if we buy in bulk (potential saving in freight). Let me check with them again. I just emailed them again 15 minutes ago. Need a night for them to reply.

About the paint code, they cannot find V03 in their data for TitS. Their code is IM. However, picture below are provided in the links for the colour. I would say it is safe, I will take the risk for my own purchase. So please do not bombard me if the colour comes out to be slight different/ not up to your expectation. If yours is different by slight, mine will be too.

http://www.forteforums.com/forums/attachme...koup-sx-r-9.jpg
http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad103/C...G3/DSC02186.jpg

SHARK FIN ANTENNA GROUP BUY

I will close and proceed to book by 23rd May at least one piece for myself regardless of the gathered quantity. I am already prepared to pay RM300 for the antenna. Whether we can or cannot achieve a bigger quantity for group buy and discount, I will let you guys know the final price.

For those who need this, I can help in getting them. I earn no money from this. Therefore, if you need me to post them to you, you need to pay for the inland freight (SkyNet, Pos Laju). I can find time to meet around KL (Bukit Jalil, Mid Valley Area) and Selangor (Shah Alam, Klang). For those who are interested in Group Buy, please provide your detail as below. Serious buyers only please.

Example:-
Qty x Year Make Model Style - Color Name / Color Code
(Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)

1) lingleeyen (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
2)
3)
4)
5)

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post May 16 2013, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(blunderboy @ May 16 2013, 10:00 AM)
Interested to get 1... Mine is also titanium silver but I'm ok with black fin. This will not downgrading out receiving quality right?
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This is the plug and play functioning antenna that I have found, besides those that need you to disassemble your whole stock antenna base or those only for aesthetic purpose. This one is just stick on with an internal cord connected to your stock antenna base. I have NOT tried using this before hence I have no personal review. I have read through all 18 version of thread and there is not enough data to say this will maintain, upgrade or downgrade the radio signal, but no one seems to be complaining. What I have read is that it will have different effect on different channel. I have no identification of which channel will be affected. So I am taking the risk here too. Therefore please don't shoot me if the signal thingy does not go your way. I am not the seller, I am just helping those who are interested to get it.

Still interested?

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SHARK FIN ANTENNA GROUP BUY

I will close and proceed to book by 23rd May at least one piece for myself regardless of the gathered quantity. I am already prepared to pay RM300 for the antenna. Whether we can or cannot achieve a bigger quantity for group buy and discount, I will let you guys know the final price.

For those who need this, I can help in getting them. I earn no money from this. Therefore, if you need me to post them to you, you need to pay for the inland freight (SkyNet, Pos Laju). I can find time to meet around KL (Bukit Jalil, Mid Valley Area) and Selangor (Shah Alam, Klang). For those who are interested in Group Buy, please provide your detail as below. Serious buyers only please.

Example:-
Qty x Year Make Model Style - Color Name / Color Code
(Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)

1) lingleeyen (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
2) blunderboy (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
3)
4)
5)


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post May 16 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(blunderboy @ May 16 2013, 12:07 PM)
Thanks for the info... No harm to try anyway... Just put me in the list... I'm interested...

And what is the total unit price for it?
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Read post no 7 please. All pricing in USD. Exchange rate unknown until I pay with credit card. Citibank might give a better rate than other banks. The price is per piece + freight. Any further discount (group buy) is still unknown as we do not have quantity, but I have already asked them to provide best price if we can achieve 5 pcs to 10 pcs. Price of unit unlikely to drop. We might be able to enjoy saving in freight. I will update again tomorrow.
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post May 16 2013, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(FukaDa @ May 16 2013, 03:19 PM)
What are the estimation price?
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Mak oi...I don't have all the answers yet. All that I know have been shared on 1st page.

VG Mark II Shark Fin Antenna = USD 69
Freight = USD 28
Discount/ Freight saving = Unknown 1
Tax = Unknown 2
Maybank Forex as of 16 May 2013 = 3.0660
Forex Lost = Unknown 3

So the formula will be as below:-

[(69+28)*3.0660] - Unknown 1 + Unknown 2 + Unknown 3

Unknown 1

I have yet to discuss with them on pricing if we buy bulk la. I cannot tell you what is the saving.

Unknown 2

Tax according to the price of senior member, they got it without tax from the same source I am getting. There is one member who got direct from Korea (whole set type include base, need to dismantle, different from this), he paid 600 including tax (not sure what is the cost price) and good got held in custom for a month. I do not know why it is held for month.

Unknown 3

You also know that Forex change daily. I will not rugi to you and I will not earn your money. If Forex gain means we save bit more la. If Forex lost we all need to bare the differences la.



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post May 16 2013, 04:30 PM

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SHARK FIN ANTENNA GROUP BUY

Link to pictures of antenna

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/images/0015...04987_large.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/KDC...up/DSC00769.jpg
http://www.forteforums.com/forums/attachme...rk-fin-fin2.jpg

Price

VG Mark II Shark Fin Antenna = USD 69
Freight = USD 28
Discount and/or Freight saving = Unknown 1
Tax = Unknown 2
Maybank Forex as of 16 May 2013 = 3.0660
Forex Lost = Unknown 3

So the price formula will be as below:-

[(69+28)*3.0660] - Unknown 1 + Unknown 2 + Unknown 3

Unknown 1

I have yet finalise on pricing with VG if we buy bulk. I cannot tell what is the saving yet.

Unknown 2

Tax according to the price of senior member, they got it without tax from the same source I am getting.

Unknown 3

Forex changes daily. If Forex gain means we save bit more. If Forex lost we all need to bare the differences.

Terms

I AM NOT THE SELLER

I will close and proceed to book by 23rd May at least one piece for myself regardless of the gathered quantity. I am already prepared to pay RM300 for the antenna. Whether we can or cannot achieve a bigger quantity for group buy and discount, I will let you guys know the final price after negotiation but subject to Unknown 2 and Unknown 3.

As the amount is not small, I will need at least RM 300 to be banked into me first before I order. I cannot afford FFK. Putting 2 left over sirip ikan yu on my car’s doors is not sexy. Just incase Unknown 2 and Unknown 3 applies, I will ask for top up. If there is saving and the total charge is less than 300, I will refund upon delivery, or via Maybank.

About the paint code, their paint code NAME is different from NAZA’s paint code NAME. I have seen pictures and I would say it is same. I will take the risk for my own purchase. So please do not bombard me if the colour comes out to be slight different/ not up to your expectation. If yours is different by slight, mine will be too.

This is the plug and play functioning fractal antenna that I have found (besides those that need you to disassemble your whole stock antenna base or those only for aesthetic purpose). This one is just stick on with an internal cord connected to your stock antenna base. I have NOT tried using this before hence I have no personal review. I have read through all 18 version of thread and there is not enough data to say this will maintain, upgrade or downgrade the radio signal, but no one seems to be complaining. What I have read is that it will have different effect on different channel. I have no identification of which channel will be affected. So I am taking the risk here too. Therefore please don't shoot me if the signal thingy does not go your way.

For those who need this, I can help in getting them. I earn no money from this. Therefore, if you need me to post them to you, you need to pay for the inland freight (SkyNet, Pos Laju). I can find time to meet around KL (Bukit Jalil, Mid Valley Area) and Selangor (Shah Alam, Klang). For those who are interested in Group Buy, please provide your detail as below. Serious buyers only please.

Example:-
Qty x Year Make Model Style - Color Name / Color Code
(Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)

1) lingleeyen (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
2) blunderboy (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
3)
4)
5)

This post has been edited by lingleeyen: May 16 2013, 04:38 PM
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post May 16 2013, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(blunderboy @ May 16 2013, 05:00 PM)
Just PM me later when you need the money...
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Steady.
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post May 16 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ May 16 2013, 05:02 PM)
This pic shows the inside of the VG shark fin antenna..note that there are metal signal receiver inside the antenna (connected to original antenna base) that explained why the reception is up to par with the stock 'boner' antenna

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post May 16 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(craxors @ May 16 2013, 05:15 PM)
saw from their website...
user posted image
user posted image

is it normal/cheapo one dont have the cord? meaning after remove the tail...straight away cover with the sharkfin?  hmm.gif
user posted image
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Those without cord are for aesthetic only. I can get them at RM 38. Black, no OEM colour, no reception function.
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QUOTE(jeschong @ May 16 2013, 05:44 PM)
it comes with 3M automotive adhesive, right? this adhesive strong enough?
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Boss ah boss, if you are talking about the VG shark fin, yes, it comes with 3M as claimed in the website. I have not used this before so I do not have any shark fin antenna flew off from my car's roof yet. I am no seller, but from my research this antenna can be removed. This means that this is not permanent, but there is one over sea user (Prius driver) who claimed that his fingers got blue black when he tried to remove it. So I guess it will not fly off...GUA...Don't shoot me if it flew off. Just press all angle for one minute each if kiasi.

Please do research also before you confirm to buy. I do not want all of you point fingers at me because I believe what I have read, and I said so. Results might be different. I am baring the reasonable risk for myself and I shall not be accounted for, if things are not up to your expectation. I am just responsible to make sure I book the correct colour you requested, send out to you. If you google VG, Prius is using, Chevy is using, Mazda is using, some jeep is using.

I AM NO SELLER.
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QUOTE(jeschong @ May 16 2013, 06:07 PM)
hey bro
sorry if i asked a silly question
i actually deleted my question for the first time. i googled this 3m adhesive but din get the answer n thats y i ask
since many forumers claimed that 3M sticker is strong enough, i think this 1 is good enough.
dun pissed off har  smile.gif
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VG claim to use "Pre-installed 3M custom double-sided adhesive gasket". I think should not fly off since so many have used this since Mark I. This one that we are getting is Mark II.
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post May 17 2013, 09:08 AM

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SHARK FIN ANTENNA GROUP BUY

Link to pictures of antenna

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/images/0015...04987_large.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/KDC...up/DSC00769.jpg
http://www.forteforums.com/forums/attachme...rk-fin-fin2.jpg

Price

VG Mark II Shark Fin Antenna = USD 69 (Firm)
Freight (for 5 to 15 units) = USD 80 to 150
Exact Freight Saving = Unknown 1
Tax = Unknown 2
Maybank Forex as of 16 May 2013 = 3.0660
Forex Lost = Unknown 3

So the price formula will be as below:-

[(69+28)*3.0660] - Unknown 1 + Unknown 2 + Unknown 3

Unknown 1

Price for unit is firm. USD 69 per piece. The only saving is on freight. From their email I perceive that the 5 unit's freight is USD 80. Hence, 1 unit's freight is USD 16 instead of 28. If 15 units, freight is USD 10 per piece. However this only applies for 5 units and above. If we cannot achieve 5 pcs, the freight price will be requoted.

Unknown 2

Tax according to the price of senior member, they got it without tax from the same source I am getting.

Unknown 3

Forex changes daily. If Forex gain means we save bit more. If Forex lost we all need to bare the differences.

Terms

I AM NOT THE SELLER

I will close and proceed to book by 23rd May at least one piece for myself regardless of the gathered quantity. I am already prepared to pay RM300 for the antenna. Whether we can or cannot achieve a bigger quantity for group buy and discount, I will let you guys know the final price after negotiation but subject to Unknown 2 and Unknown 3.

As the amount is not small, I will need at least RM 300 to be banked into me first before I order. I cannot afford FFK. Putting 2 left over sirip ikan yu on my car’s doors is not sexy. Just incase Unknown 2 and Unknown 3 applies, I will ask for top up. If there is saving and the total charge is less than 300, I will refund upon delivery, or via Maybank.

About the paint code, their paint code NAME is different from NAZA’s paint code NAME. I have seen pictures and I would say it is same. I will take the risk for my own purchase. So please do not bombard me if the colour comes out to be slight different/ not up to your expectation. If yours is different by slight, mine will be too.

This is the plug and play functioning fractal antenna that I have found (besides those that need you to disassemble your whole stock antenna base or those only for aesthetic purpose). This one is just stick on with an internal cord connected to your stock antenna base. I have NOT tried using this before hence I have no personal review. I have read through all 18 version of thread and there is not enough data to say this will maintain, upgrade or downgrade the radio signal, but no one seems to be complaining. What I have read is that it will have different effect on different channel. I have no identification of which channel will be affected. So I am taking the risk here too. Therefore please don't shoot me if the signal thingy does not go your way.

For those who need this, I can help in getting them. I earn no money from this. Therefore, if you need me to post them to you, you need to pay for the inland freight (SkyNet, Pos Laju). I can find time to meet around KL (Bukit Jalil, Mid Valley Area) and Selangor (Shah Alam, Klang). For those who are interested in Group Buy, please provide your detail as below. Serious buyers only please.

Example:-
Qty x Year Make Model Style - Color Name / Color Code
(Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)

1) lingleeyen (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
2) blunderboy (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
3)
4)
5)

This post has been edited by lingleeyen: May 17 2013, 09:57 AM
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SOLD.
Hi all, I have 1 set of original Mobis Window Visor to let go. Just arrived yesterday. Brand new. Box also have not open.

Reason to sell is that my wife booked the same for me as a surprise. When the set I booked arrived yesterday, she was shocked why the package is under my name.

When I said I booked it 2 days ago, she said she booked the same thing. So by next week, I will ahve 2 same sets. Hence I want to let go my set.

Who is interested please feel free to PM me.

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QUOTE(mangoheng @ May 17 2013, 10:44 PM)
Whoa this group has ALOT of posts ......
I'm a brand new Kia Forte 1.6sx titanium grey owner ! I had originally planned to wait until the k3 is launched in malaysia but can't wait any longer plus the k3 will definitely be over my budget which is below rm90k
I have yet to go for my first service, so far everything is good, just I'm feeling alot of bumpiness while driving...maybe cuz of bad Malaysian roads... Is this normal?
Loving the features of the car , the touch screen HU is kinda buggy with sound from cd and radio sometimes cutting off randomly....
Is there anyway to update the main HU so version ? And I can't seem to register my speednavi on the website because I don't have the serial key.... It's not listed in the manual .....
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I believe your car is still in stock condition right? It was not bumpy for me at all. The low profile tire definitely plays a role in comfort when you go through pot holes. The rear suspension is too soft for my liking.

My radio, cd, music from thumbdrive will not cut off unless I have incoming calls. Go check and see if your version is the most updated. Speednavi code is from SA. Chase him for the code. Else install Papa.

Also, it is time for mobis visor + shark fin antenna.
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QUOTE(suai @ May 18 2013, 01:44 AM)
Bro, Put me in too:  (Qty: 1 x  Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)

Btw, I have an suggestion too, pay RM 150 in advance first then the balance will be paid upon collection/ COD. What is your opinion?
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Well, what I am afraid is FFK. This is not a very hot cake selling item and it is customise. If I have one or 2 stuck means I will be keeping it like forever.

If you have trust issue, please let me know. We shall talk over PM. If you need, I pass you my IC + company name card so that you know where to find me. But if I deliver and you publish my identity, you are dead tongue.gif
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post May 18 2013, 10:53 AM

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SHARK FIN ANTENNA GROUP BUY

Link to pictures of antenna

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/images/0015...04987_large.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/KDC...up/DSC00769.jpg
http://www.forteforums.com/forums/attachme...rk-fin-fin2.jpg

Price

VG Mark II Shark Fin Antenna = USD 69 (Firm)
Freight (for 5 to 15 units) = USD 80 to 150
Exact Freight Saving = Unknown 1
Tax = Unknown 2
Maybank Forex as of 16 May 2013 = 3.0660
Forex Lost = Unknown 3

So the price formula will be as below:-

[(69+28)*3.0660] - Unknown 1 + Unknown 2 + Unknown 3

Unknown 1

Price for unit is firm. USD 69 per piece. The only saving is on freight. From their email I perceive that the 5 unit's freight is USD 80. Hence, 1 unit's freight is USD 16 instead of 28. If 15 units, freight is USD 10 per piece. However this only applies for 5 units and above. If we cannot achieve 5 pcs, the freight price will be requoted.

Unknown 2

Tax according to the price of senior member, they got it without tax from the same source I am getting.

Unknown 3

Forex changes daily. If Forex gain means we save bit more. If Forex lost we all need to bare the differences.

Terms

I AM NOT THE SELLER

I will close and proceed to book by 23rd May at least one piece for myself regardless of the gathered quantity. I am already prepared to pay RM300 for the antenna. Whether we can or cannot achieve a bigger quantity for group buy and discount, I will let you guys know the final price after negotiation but subject to Unknown 2 and Unknown 3.

As the amount is not small, I will need at least RM 300 to be banked into me first before I order. I cannot afford FFK. Putting 2 left over sirip ikan yu on my car’s doors is not sexy. Just incase Unknown 2 and Unknown 3 applies, I will ask for top up. If there is saving and the total charge is less than 300, I will refund upon delivery, or via Maybank.

About the paint code, their paint code NAME is different from NAZA’s paint code NAME. I have seen pictures and I would say it is same. I will take the risk for my own purchase. So please do not bombard me if the colour comes out to be slight different/ not up to your expectation. If yours is different by slight, mine will be too.

This is the plug and play functioning fractal antenna that I have found (besides those that need you to disassemble your whole stock antenna base or those only for aesthetic purpose). This one is just stick on with an internal cord connected to your stock antenna base. I have NOT tried using this before hence I have no personal review. I have read through all 18 version of thread and there is not enough data to say this will maintain, upgrade or downgrade the radio signal, but no one seems to be complaining. What I have read is that it will have different effect on different channel. I have no identification of which channel will be affected. So I am taking the risk here too. Therefore please don't shoot me if the signal thingy does not go your way.

For those who need this, I can help in getting them. I earn no money from this. Therefore, if you need me to post them to you, you need to pay for the inland freight (SkyNet, Pos Laju). I can find time to meet around KL (Bukit Jalil, Mid Valley Area) and Selangor (Shah Alam, Klang). For those who are interested in Group Buy, please provide your detail as below. Serious buyers only please.

Example:-
Qty x Year Make Model Style - Color Name / Color Code
(Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)

1) lingleeyen (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
2) blunderboy (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
3)suai (Qty: 1 x 2013 Kia Forte 4-Dr Sedan - Titanium Silver / V03)
4)
5)
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QUOTE(zerohunter @ May 18 2013, 10:58 AM)
lingleeyen those links seems broken, another other link?
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I don't have the link now. Will amend on Monday.
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QUOTE(acethylene @ May 18 2013, 12:51 PM)
Hello, I've been driving my Forte for about 2 months plus now. I notice that the rear suspension are too soft. Whenever I go through a road bump or 2 person siting behind, the rear tyre is like hiting the rear fender or the body frame of the car. Is this normal for all Forte?

How to solve this issue? Change the rear suspension?
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Not so serious la. I also found that the rear suspension is too soft to my liking, but it does not hit my fender or body. I am saying this because I often have both my parents and brother as my passenger with my wife at the front.

Don't change suspension first. Add spring cushion. Or you can add stiffening ring. But I dont think you should add both at once.

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