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darel_lee
post Jun 19 2013, 12:11 PM

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SUPER BAD experience with AZ Motor Seri Kembangan Service Center.
!!! the WORST service center and staff !!!!!

Bought a new Forte 2.0 from Kia AZ Motor Seri Kembangan in early 2013. Good experience with Mr.Edwin Loh. Fast approval and helpful SA.
However, since the day-1 i got my car, i noticed there is abnormal wind blowing noise on my front passenger door (when my speed is above 90km/j ) without door visor.

I went back to Kia AZ Motor Seri Kembangan for service during first 1000km, the mechanics claimed cannot detect the noise.

However, the noise still persistent and getting louder, anyone who sit in my car also noticed it. People keep asking me " why your brand new car got such a loud wind noise ?? "

Yesterday i went back to Kia AZ Motor Seri Kembangan requested to check for the abnormal wind noise sound again 1. After waited, the mechanic told me there was no wind noise. I insisted to test drive together with him again.

After second test drive with the mechanic, finally he noticed the noise and agreed that it is abnormal. He tried his best to detect the source of the noise and repaired it for me, however he failed to do so.

After waited for 4 hours, the lady at service counter (Named ?? Syasya) told me that it is a normal wind noise, nothing abnormal, nothing need to be repaired. I tried argue with this lady, told her that the mechanic also noticed the abnormal noise. This lady who does not sit in my car or involve in the repair of my car has now became the person explained to me and insisted my car is normal.

i feel totally hopeless and helpless. I am so disappointed with the service at AZ Motor (which i thought should be one of the Best). I chose to buy my car there (130km away from my house) because it is highly recommended at this forum. But turn out, ??? Just because they cannot fix it, they denied there is a problem

What can i do now????

Many of us bought our lovely Forte at Seri Kembangan AZ Motor and service there, so just to share with you what has happened to me.
i will NEVER go to AZ Motor Seri Kembangan for Service !!!!
i will not let mechanic with such attitude to touch my car, do not want to risk my life driving a car serviced by such people.


darel_lee
post Jun 25 2013, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(rompers @ Jun 23 2013, 06:14 AM)
Any update/progress with the above?
I'm worried now because I'm one of the many customers of AZ Master Motors.

I do know that there are plenty of other SCs around for me to choose from, but as a customer and also a person of principles, I would much prefer some form of business continuity with the company/SA whom I bought my vehicle from.

Besides, as part of the promotion during the purchase of my vehicle, a 20% discount is provided for the first 2 Services @ AZ Master. I've so far used 1, with 1 more to go.

I've previously written a couple of comments in regards to my first 1K Service @ AZ Master 3S Center. Here's the link to the V17 Thread Page:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2706564/+1180

I don't mean to dig up old issues here, but it seems that level of professional service from AZ Master has dropped(?). Too many new customers to handle? Or no time to layan old customers?

Can someone of authority from AZ Master 3S Service Center please come forward and provide some clarification?

PS - I know I may sound a little harsh with my words here, but pls understand the situation that I'm not a rich man and I don't change my vehicle every 1 or 2 years. It's a BIG investment/liability for me. Hence, I'd prefer if I could at least get some professional service from the people whom have earned a profit from my purchase and IS still earning because every time I service my car, I'm still paying them at a premium.

Additionally, the symbiotic relationship between a customer and SA/SC is a pretty complicated one.
If given a choice, I know some of the new car owners would prefer to have their cars serviced by non KIA 3S Centers (whom may provide a better and more professional service at a competitive price). This however is not possible, because NAZA KIA has tied the customers down with WARRANTY Terms & Conditions.
So you see the equation?
1) Customer buys car from SA (which has 3S Center).
2) SA promises the best and world-class service from his company to convince the customer and close the deal.
3) Due to the trusting/friendly relationship with the SA, customer opts to service vehicle at the same center and also recommends the SA to his friends.
4) SC Technicians provides unprofessional service through lackadaisical attitude.
4) Customer vehicle damaged/soiled/dirtied (regardless if minor or major).
5) Customer complains.
6) SA says customer is too choosy and fussy, forgetting that not everyone are millionaires whom buy cars like buying underwear.
7) Customer's friends experiences the same issue and now blames the Customer for misrepresentation and bad advice/recommendation.
8) Result? Customer = sad.gif and mad.gif ; Customer's friend = sad.gif and mad.gif ; SA/SC = Don't care as long as making a profit(?)

Sorry for the long winded post, I'm just really frustrated with people/companies making empty promises after I've parted with close to RM90K for a vehicle.
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Agree with what you said. Actually on the same day, I went to talk with Edwin (my SA), Edwin said "dun push the technician too much, they have limitation. U try to figure out the abnormal noise origin from where yourself, then let them know. He even recommend me to try other SC"
No one from AZ motor apologize to me in my case.

Btw, If I know where the abnormal sound come from, I no need to ask SC to check.

We chose to buy from YOU bcos we believe YOU provide good service. After we get the car, noticed the defect, YOU said no worry, just enjoy the car, any problems can come back to SC. When we go back SC, they treat us and our car so badly. Now, YOU said service is different department. If SC can't help, go other SC la.

Haha, my feeling is YOU have earned the money, now the service is different. After sales service and before sales service are totally different.

Until now, I dun see AZ Motor respond to our post here.
darel_lee
post Jul 2 2013, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Buydirect @ Jun 27 2013, 08:53 PM)
Dear Darel,

On this issue regarding the wind noise, I have talked to the SC, and they have given me their input regarding your complaint.

First and foremost, we need to understand that wind noise is something quite subjective and not easily quantifiable, hence it leads to some subjective judgement as to whether it is normal or abnormal. Some level of wind noise is inevitable, especially when the car is driven at high speed. It is quite different from other defects, such as the fogging up of the head lamp, or misalignment of the wheels which technically should not exist at all and easily detectable.

The SC usually try to solve a complaint within their ability, knowledge and experience. In this case, we note that you have even changed the rubber weather strip earlier at another SC, but the "perceive" issue did not go away. Based on the mechanic's observation, and after doing the high speed drive, he has concluded that this is normal wind cutting noise for Forte and has communicated the information to the front-line desk person who had told you the same.

I know there is no way to convince you to agree that this is normal wind cutting noise, which is quite subjective and arguable, as reasoned earlier. The next step therefore, is to take this matter to the Naza technical department to probe and investigate this issue further to determine if this is construed as a defect, and if so, what are the actions need to be taken.

The AZ World Car SC had done what it could and should have done based on SOP. The mechanic showed empathy and attended to your complaint to try to understand the situation, including exploring ways to minimize any wind noise intrusion. They did not brush off the problem at an instance, but took time to investigate. However, the outcome is not what you had wished for.

Having said that, EVEN IF ( I repeat, even if) this is indeed deem a DEFECT, and the SC does not have a solution in hand, despite trying its best, is it fair to brand them as the "WORST?" Is it a Hero or Zero sum up game?
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FINALLY someone from AZ responded.

U can say wind noise is subjective or I may have super hearing sense, but almost everyone sat in my car also noticed that it was abnormal wind noise sound in my car.

Your mechanic also concluded and told me it was abnormal during test drive. I saw and appreciate the effort he spent to try Fix it. However he failed to fix it.
I dun mind he tell me that he can't solve it and advice me go other SC.
But, after he failed to fix it, he said it was normal.
He knew it was abnormal (he said so), then he was telling thing differently after he couldn't Fix it.
If it was normal, why other SC try fix it by changing the rubber.

Conclusion: there is a abnormal sound which your mechanic actually agreed and noticed it. But he denied it after he failed to fix it. So;, stop telling us wind noise is subjective so your mechanic couldn't detect it bcos he had detected it at very beginning.

To me, if u can't do it, Admit it, ask help from more experienced person.

Denied something abnormal that u can't fix it is your SOP?
Your SC promised will ask the manager to call me, however I didn't receive anycall, that's your SOP?
Until I posted my case here, only someone try to call me. That's too late. If I didn't posted here, im sure AZ will never call.

To me, AZ Motor SC is the Worst SC, no doubt.
Irresponsible, not honest, ignore customer Problem, simply promise, etc..... Worst, no doubt.


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