Will Titan project able to be the next successor of Blizzard's cash cow p2p? is quite sad for me to see another p2p going f2p (Rift : source ) because to me a p2p game = good amount of content updates, many good features, better community(in some way that is), fun engaging contents that get updates from minor to biggest expansion pack.

Alot of my venture to f2p games have been detriminal, void, negative because there no replay value, content is just meh, no content updates for years, story is lacking and many down side that distaste my self from f2p MMORPGs.


What are your honest thought on Rifts going f2p, i know this is a WoW forum, since WoW is declining, and may goes f2p in future. Will Titan be able to be WoW's successor?

What are the F2P MMOs that you've tried?

You're not wrong when you said that P2P MMOs have lots of updates, but if a F2P model garners more income for company than P2P then why not? There were some games that have reported to earn more when they switch from a monthly fee model to f2p.

Looking at our exchange rate, USD15 is not exactly a small amount, especially if you've got a 9-6 day job which limits your game time. And by paying a subscription, you just feel obligated to play.

And Titan will definitely be a hit. The arts are fantastic

EQ2 is a great F2P game... u get 9 years of content for free.

LOTRO is currently the most popular F2P games.

SWTOR also went F2P recently but was not well received by the user as the poor cartel market.

There is another recommonded i forgot the name, it's about story telling and you play one of the 3 faction.

I don't play chinese / Korea F2P anyone due to... you need to WIN? forge a +13 weapon, how much need to pay? luckily RM 100 can get, unlucky RM 100000 also can't make. WTF IS THIS?

dont care, f2p is worst than wow
the rich get stronger, the poor grind harder
lazy rich dudes get to the top in 10 days
poor smart hardworking dude selling stuff working his ass to the same level in 10 months

and damn f2p are actually bigger money sinks, wait till u get addicted, the real
money u spend on f2p will be more than the real money spent in wow

Hello you got try the western F2P model or not? I guess never.

In those F2P you can't create +13 armor set (unlike asian one), money just for some convenient / vanity thingy in the game.

Asian one... got very few dungeon but many way for you to pay to HAVE A VERY LITTLE CHANCE TO increase stat of Armor. if you don't pay YOUR ARMOR WILL BREAK OR WON'T ADVANCE.

Even you get +13 weapon you just great in pvp and solo few tier dungeon.

Try western F2P, then you'll know.

Just like WOW you can go raid / dungeon, and u can get epic but you need to "buy" license or attune key to wear it.

in EQ2 it's like paying RM 5 for 15keys... just like for each tier you just need to pay RM5 for each toon you wanted to pimped out. or you can wear rare/ blue item without any restriction.

in those game you got many dungeon to play with just like wow. unlike asian one, same dungeon you run atleast 100 times... if you want to be good you need to +++ your item to beyond +8. and if you played any of +++ games you'll know it's pay to win not pay to have fun.

im playing Rift..make a comeback..=P

Titan project "reset", delayed until 2016

http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/28/blizzard...ject-exclusive/

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3262-T...il-2016?page=34

Now I can finally get into RIft and try it out and maybe pay for some if I like it enough.

THe problem with all those P2P games are that they require a huge entry fee (buying the base game and expansion) and then a monthly fee for something that is not necessarily better than all those F2P games. If the game is bad, then the money spent is effectively wasted. That is risk that me and a lot of my friends refuse to take, me and my friends are very interested in Rift due to its class and rift system but were unwilling to blow the cash on something that might end up bad. Now that it is finally F2P, I can try the game to see if I like it and pay for it if I like it enough.

Also, free to play until lvl 20 offered by all these P2P games do not cut it because 20 lvls out of a game with like 90 max lvl is not even close to represent the actual experience and gameplay the game has to offer.

Rift is going F2P effective 12 of June 2013. You get all the stuff what the subscribed players have now, but they will get the 'patron' privileges which is somewhat nothing much. Players are basically grinding Raptr. hours on rift to get it for free atm. With wow too you have the lvl 20 cap, provided you tried almost everything that you can try i do think it is somewhat enjoyable. I find IA on rift interesting and so as the rift closing activities either solo or in party. I have to say Rift offers a slightly different aspect of activities to do when you go questing so its somewhat not a mundane, run here run there thing.

Tho my complain about rift are that lack of addons and lack of quest guide, data. I was scratching my head to find the exact remaining 11 quests that I failed to find anywhere in scarlet gorge and it seems that it is possible for that to happen on rift and without proper info/data that's hard/difficult to find out. The other thing that I found out is that, majority are former WoW players, but surprisingly all of them stopped either during BC or Cata and a portion said they tried MoP then left. Nobody actually dared to answer my question if they had actually tried doing MoP dungeons, raids and scenarios which offer a different kind of approach and experience during engagement. So I'm assuming they rated WoW simply based on Cata/WoTLK and not really the latest content.

Rift ppl are a bit nervous about the ability of the servers to cater floodings of ppl and fluctuation of bots when F2P goes of which would highly effect the ingame economics. And also the community dimension would definitely change as anybody can play and ruin the game experience for you. And since Titan is still 3 years away, blizzard have to come out with new ideas constantly to keep their clients interested unless Rift F2P becomes a fail. Trion took a big step going F2P but whether it will eat WoW or somehow benefit WoW, only time can tell.

Like I said, 20 lvls is too little to represent the actual gameplay especially when the advanced gameplay esperience is so much different from the starting zone. At lvl 20 you can probably run RFC, Deadmines, participate in WSG and that is it. After so many expansions, they should at least offer people a limited 1-2 months trial period for the base game for free, that would be more representative of the actual advanced gameplay.

I left WoW during the WotLK period because I got bored out of my mind grinding, when someone left the game you don't expect to see them in the game anytime anymore because they either grown tired of the game or they already invested their time into another game. In my case, after I left WoW, I went into Champions Online which keeps me entertained for a fairly long time with its free form character creation and character builder, the money I saved from not paying WoW monthly allows me to invest a little bit into the game which makes it so much enjoyable. After I left Champions Online, I went to Steam for my games, and again the money I saved from not paying monthly allows me to buy quite a lot of games especially when it is on sales. By the time I am thinking about checking out WoW again, it is already in the MoP expansion, at that point there is no way I am going to pay for 2 expansions + a monthly subscription just to get back into the game just to check it out. I would rather invest the money into newer games than into a game that I have left once. Fast forward to today, there is so many high quality F2P like Tera, Aion, Path of Exile and the upcoming Rift for me to choose from, not to mention the B2P Guild Wars 2 that I have invested into as well. There is no way I would ever go back to WoW right now unless Blizzard gives me some crazy out of this world offer like free upgrade to the current expansion with 6 months free play. Even then, I would probably left after 6 months ended because there is no reason for me to pay monthly for the game when I got Guild Wars 2.

For me, MMO is all about exploring the world created and discover exciting things by yourself, not having some programmes showing you where you should go and what you should do, so I definitely never miss the quest guide and addons, not even a bit. Even in WoW I am playing the game without guide and running raids without DBM addon. There is no point to have a beautifully crafted world if you are going to follow the dotted lines everywhere.

If a game is popular, you can bet that there will be bots and farmers in the game whether it is P2P nd F2P. I have caught many bots especially those teleporting, floating in air miner bots. I have even seen those rumored underground mining bots that are running below the world and mine everything they wanted. That is not counting those bots flying around on mount or flight form that are harder to determine. Going F2P just means removing 1 gate that is useless in stopping bots and farmers. Also, as I know before I left WoW, there already a steady amount of people in game that are prepared to ruin the gaming experience for you even without going F2P, so conclusion is whatever happens in F2P MMO will happens to P2P MMO as well because people on the net are generally a**holes. As for people flooding and overloading the servers, I am hoping Trion is prepared for that.

WoW trial only last like lvl 20, which i think its the most unattractive part in WoW.. I remember got so bored last time and complained how lame it was until i forced myself to max level then only to learn lvl 60 was the beginning of WoW.. Raids are strong point of WoW, nothing else in the world can beat it seriously.. And in fact those who complain how suck is WoW actually never been to raiding and felt the satisfaction of downing boss blablabla..

Anyway on a side note, I played RIFT. The leveling, questing are pretty boring. Everything are made simpler, quests are linear, and lack of main story line.. Hate it when you quests for the sake of moving down the map :/ Apart from graphics, WoW still wins hands down. I cant speak for raids yet though, however I believe it wont be as mechanic-heavy like WoW..

100% agree with you

U guys should try FFXIV then lol

lol..what game should I play now? I only know WoW..

Best part of Blizzard's next MMO, Titan, is that it wont be a subscription based MMO. They will follow Guild Wars 2's model. And I love Guild Wars 2's model a lot.

Can't wait