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post May 17 2013, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ May 17 2013, 11:50 AM)
vs N.Korea wasnt it?

my summer dream muppet will be Ronaldo and Fabregas. which both very unlikely. Bale also worth a dream.

i believe DM fancy of them. but there will be huge financial obstacle and the player/s (esp Fabregas) not keen for switch. Ronaldo also since SAF will be gone. Bale will be interest to move abroad more i think, if Spurs failed to book their place in CL.

DM will definitely buy a midfielder or 2. im not interested with Fellaini at first, but DM know the player well. ill not complaint if we get him. he'll be useful to European games, esp against passing teams like Barca /Dortmund. midfield 3 of Carrick-Fellaini-Kagawa will be a great engine room.

dont want any of Jagielka and Baines (media talks). Phill Neville will be great addition to backroom staff.

2 CMs (one proven + one young prospect), and retaining Rooney (and Nani) will be a great platform for DM to launch his OT career.
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post May 17 2013, 11:51 AM

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if add in another central midfielder, very pack liao. Also, Fellaini prefers defensive position, which is carrick's role.

We really need to see more of anderson and cleverly, hope they stay fit next season!

We really need another winger.. this season's wingers very poor tbh. Bale Bale Bale!
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Rarely watched everton matches..which position DM preferred to used?

4-4-2? 4-5-1? 4-3-3?
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ May 17 2013, 10:50 AM)
vs N.Korea wasnt it?

my summer dream muppet will be Ronaldo and Fabregas. which both very unlikely. Bale also worth a dream.

i believe DM fancy of them. but there will be huge financial obstacle and the player/s (esp Fabregas) not keen for switch. Ronaldo also since SAF will be gone. Bale will be interest to move abroad more i think, if Spurs failed to book their place in CL.

DM will definitely buy a midfielder or 2. im not interested with Fellaini at first, but DM know the player well. ill not complaint if we get him. he'll be useful to European games, esp against passing teams like Barca /Dortmund. midfield 3 of Carrick-Fellaini-Kagawa will be a great engine room.

dont want any of Jagielka and Baines (media talks). Phill Neville will be great addition to backroom staff.

2 CMs (one proven + one young prospect), and retaining Rooney (and Nani) will be a great platform for DM to launch his OT career.
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Just give us Fabregas and everything will fall into place. That and get our wings performing again.

Get rid of Young. Hope Valencia turn back time, and if that doesn't happen, ship out next January. Convince Nani to sign a new contract and play him every game. If he doesn't want, get rid and get one super duper winger or about to become one ala Hazard/Lucas. Damn you money making us miss out last season. Zaha looks gooding so that's a start. Get one of them to perform at their best consistently, and put Kagawa on the opposite side. Cun.

Could do with someone able to do Fletcher/Carrick's work. Imagine if Carrick is out for 3 months. We're fuuuu

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*something about Valencia's poor form
O'Shea years ago when he was awesome at LB even nutmegging Figo..and one summer later, he turns into this slow awkward big guy. I think maybe the same happens to Valencia. Something physically not right with his body anymore. I think injuries play some part as well. CR also did the same.. 06/07 he was just awesome. After that he slowly turns into this freak scoring machine. No longer was he able to twist and turn like he was before that.
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post May 17 2013, 01:13 PM

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cesc plays in the same role as kagawa.
unless we change our formation or some players leave don't see why.
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post May 17 2013, 01:23 PM

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Young is bad. Not sure if the pressure of donning the red of Manchester affected his confidence? He can barely get past defenders, needs to be shipped out. Our Left wing is pretty weak, we need a natural left winger. Bale is slowly moving into the forward role already but still a good addition.

As for Cesc, Arsenal fans sure rage one. Another 'former' captain joining their rivals tongue.gif but still worth going after.
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post May 17 2013, 02:43 PM

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Valencia problem is simple. He's very one footed. The weaker foot also play big part for any footballer especially for winger. Their position demands high level of dynamism and unpredictability. Most professional, world class winger can dribble, control, trapping, turning, passing, crossing, and shifting, spreading their weight on their weaker side as well.

However with Valencia, he rely everything on his strong side which is his right foot. Rarely seen he takes touch, cross, dribble with his left foot. It makes his play very predictable and one dimensional. Opposition player just have to stand their ground as they know Valencia don't have the ability to cut inside, and because of his one-footed style he can't play on the left. His marker just have to force him wide all the time, render him useless. That's why he always hugging the touchline, because of his limitation. You can argue it's like old school out and out winger, which rely heavily on pace and power but nobody can maintain such intensity throughout their career. Let alone coming back from injury.

Take a look at Bale. Ever since he's working on both of his feet (and his upper body strength), he has improved tremendously. He can play anywhere upfront. His right foot is as good as his left. Making him a machine, very unpredictable.
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ May 17 2013, 02:43 PM)
Valencia problem is simple. He's very one footed. The weaker foot also play big part for any footballer especially for winger. Their position demands high level of dynamism and unpredictability. Most professional, world class winger can dribble, control, trapping, turning, passing, crossing, and shifting, spreading their weight on their weaker side as well.

However with Valencia, he rely everything on his strong side which is his right foot. Rarely seen he takes touch, cross, dribble with his left foot. It makes his play very predictable and one dimensional. Opposition player just have to stand their ground as they know Valencia don't have the ability to cut inside, and because of his one-footed style he can't play on the left. His marker just have to force him wide all the time, render him useless. That's why he always hugging the touchline, because of his limitation. You can argue it's like old school out and out winger, which rely heavily on pace and power but nobody can maintain such intensity throughout their career. Let alone coming back from injury.

Take a look at Bale. Ever since he's working on both of his feet (and his upper body strength), he has improved tremendously. He can play anywhere upfront. His right foot is as good as his left. Making him a machine, very unpredictable.
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Bale is following Ronaldo's footsteps I guess. Ronaldo can operate with his weaker foot, doubt we can call it a weaker foot now since both left-right are equally good. Not sure about Bale's heading abilities, haven't watch much of him scoring with his head. If he does improve on his heading ability, will be a complete forward. His free-kick practices came into good use too, scoring quite a few from free-kicks. Bale's ability is quite admirable.
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ May 17 2013, 02:43 PM)
Valencia problem is simple. He's very one footed. The weaker foot also play big part for any footballer especially for winger. Their position demands high level of dynamism and unpredictability. Most professional, world class winger can dribble, control, trapping, turning, passing, crossing, and shifting, spreading their weight on their weaker side as well.

However with Valencia, he rely everything on his strong side which is his right foot. Rarely seen he takes touch, cross, dribble with his left foot. It makes his play very predictable and one dimensional. Opposition player just have to stand their ground as they know Valencia don't have the ability to cut inside, and because of his one-footed style he can't play on the left. His marker just have to force him wide all the time, render him useless. That's why he always hugging the touchline, because of his limitation. You can argue it's like old school out and out winger, which rely heavily on pace and power but nobody can maintain such intensity throughout their career. Let alone coming back from injury.

Take a look at Bale. Ever since he's working on both of his feet (and his upper body strength), he has improved tremendously. He can play anywhere upfront. His right foot is as good as his left. Making him a machine, very unpredictable.
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well the thing is, even though he's one dimensional, he's very good at it, was an unstoppable beast last season, but for whatever reason, this season his form dropped really steep, and not just on the offensive side but also the defensive side as well...luckily we've got Rafael to cover his arse there sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ May 17 2013, 02:49 PM)
Bale is following Ronaldo's footsteps I guess. Ronaldo can operate with his weaker foot, doubt we can call it a weaker foot now since both left-right are equally good. Not sure about Bale's heading abilities, haven't watch much of him scoring with his head. If he does improve on his heading ability, will be a complete forward. His free-kick practices came into good use too, scoring quite a few from free-kicks. Bale's ability is quite admirable.
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I think he scores a couple this season. His heading is not as good as Ronaldo but his leaping ability might be as good as Ronaldo. Dare i say this season Bale has better shooting and free-kick technique than Ronaldo. There was a talk about him looking to improve his right foot further in this summer, have to admire his dedication and motivation. He really want to be the best player in the world. And to think he's still a prospect not a finished article.. what a scary thought.
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ May 17 2013, 02:55 PM)
well the thing is, even though he's one dimensional, he's very good at it, was an unstoppable beast last season, but for whatever reason, this season his form dropped really steep, and not just on the offensive side but also the defensive side as well...luckily we've got Rafael to cover his arse there sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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thats the challenge playing for a big team like United, the opponent will focus most part of their pre-match preparation as to how to break down our attack

and valencia I believed has been identified as the one can be most easily nullified with his single-dimensional play. if he doesnt not work on his weaker foot this summer i think his place will not be safe next season
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On Valencia, like what Saha said before, SAF usually emphasized on the quality of one player, not trying to fix the weakness of one..
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post May 17 2013, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ May 17 2013, 01:13 PM)
cesc plays in the same role as kagawa.
unless we change our formation or some players leave don't see why.
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in the last 2 years Fabregas was utilized as forward (Spain/Barca), false #9/creative #10/wide forward.

Spain dont have regular CF with Villa and Torres struggle with fitness/form. so Fabregas usually the CF/false #9/wide forward. at Barca, Fabregas played either flank or behind Messi, and sometime occupy Messi role (false #9) if Messi injured /rest (mind im not regularly following Spain/Barca, but ive watched most of their big games)

IMO Fabregas best position are CM, like his best days at Arsenal. or Xavi position at Barca. so basically the likes of Cleverley and Anderson will effect more if United buy Fabregas. not Rooney or Kagawa.

i rate Fabregas to United are far more unlikely than Ronaldo to United, which also very unlikely. Fabregas is Catalans, Xavi is not getting any younger, United were his former team arch rival.. City and Chelsea would enter bidding war too if Fabregas available, they could add some CM too.

but hey, if someone tell me in May last year RVP will join United on the next August, ill also tell him its very unlikely.. we can dream though, let DM decide..

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like what dunder said, Cesc's best position is the CM, either same position as Carrick, or in front of him, behind the AM
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post May 17 2013, 04:32 PM

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in defence of valencia...i think thats why we hav set of winger that are different from each other...some games...maybe valencia works wonder...tormenting the fullback...not this season tho...nani bring something else...flair n cut inside...young bring crosses n dribling n winning freekicks...welbeck play there n brings quick counter attack...there are different in each games...some games they are effective some games they are nowhere to be seen...as for me...this season the winger dept is in serious slump...injury, very un-consistent week in week out...cos normally our winger always perform in every season...out of the un-consistent winger dept...maybe valencia is fit n decipline enuf to play for SAF...that why he always in the team sheet...even he also admit he is under perform this term...

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there's rumour flying around right now saying ronaldo will follow mourinho to chelsea
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post May 17 2013, 05:35 PM

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and it's from reliable source that never get wronged about transfer
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post May 17 2013, 05:38 PM

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well, in my opinion on Valencia, I just felt that he is simply too predictable, his over reliance on his strong foot put him in such a predictable situation. if he can't outrun his defender, he will just back pass to rafael or other CBs, or at most sideway passing.

whereas, young and nani tends to cut in from wide, and they often make a long shot from just outside the box makes them more interesting winger than valencia, valencia just wouldn't shoot, he simply just put in drill crosses....
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QUOTE(zhuzull87 @ May 17 2013, 05:35 PM)
and it's from reliable source that never get wronged about transfer
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put up the source then.....

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