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post May 30 2018, 06:21 PM

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Those that bought vr headset oculus/wmr/vive from amazon how to deal with warranty if something happens during 1 year?

Can we ship it back to amazon instead of the manufacturer?
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post May 30 2018, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ May 30 2018, 09:12 PM)
Before buying, should check if warranty fullfilled by amazon or not. Cost of repair probably quite high for us due to transport fee, but atleast got warranty and usually cheaper, unlike 3rd party reseller here.

Theres a month guarenttee where return cost would be by amazon, including taxes.
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I emailed them and ask warranty for dell visor and they respond only 30 days return and after that need contact manufacturer..
That kinda suck coz i havr no idea how to deal with that if it happens
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post May 30 2018, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ May 30 2018, 09:27 PM)
Oh that kind of suck. But we all no choice.. Seeing none of the PC VR wants to sell in malaysia..

How old is ur visor and wat was the issue?
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Didnt buy yet but planning on it. Either dell or lenovo explorer
However I read a lot of people getting weird issues with dell visor on reddit so am doing research on warranty purposes

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post May 30 2018, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ May 30 2018, 09:36 PM)
I think all the wmr seem to have a significant quality control. With the price cut off nearly by 50% bcoz of excess stock or high returns.
Reddit there is plagued with die hard religious fans of wmr that would downvote any negatives about wmr, even the legit ones.
I can tell u honestly wmr tracking is clumpsy.
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Do you advise against getting it then? Should I aim oculus instead?

But wmr have better resolution though
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post May 30 2018, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ May 30 2018, 09:44 PM)
actually why r u picking WMR?
For me, the only 2 reasons to choose WMR is cost or portability.

Resolution is definitely sharper but because they use fresnel lens, if ur IPD is further from their IPD (~63), ur clarity will be affected..
Also... if ur playing dark games.. ull definitely notice the obvious lcd glow which ruins the game.

if ur watching youtube reviewers... people like sebastion ang is paid by lenovo to promote. the real tracking is no where that good and he cuts scenes where his tracking goes haywire.
edit: is this gonna be ur first VR headset?
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Because it's cheap and I wanted to play beat saber. A lot of customization on pc.. and cheap games on steam I have psvr but not really using anymore

Yes i watched sebastian and blunty videos it looks great in their review
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post May 31 2018, 05:16 AM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ May 30 2018, 10:07 PM)
when possible u should get the HTC Vive or Oculus rift. those have more consistent performance.

playing on WMR is like playing on a half broken VR device..

Sebastion Ang is an actor and will hide the issues in his reviews. but if u look at his reviews on games using the lenovo explorer.. u can see some tracking issues.
https://youtu.be/IAQAcowSsEM?t=419 and also at 18:08.
from my experience. they tracking cannot track fast and fine movements.... they can also register false position as both controller uses same circular LED.
Sniping is also nearly impossible with WMR.

do u have rec room on psvr, i can show u how far the hand really tracks
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Already uninstall rec room sweat.gif but i get your point that wmr suck. Though I am still interested coz it's cheap to start pc vr.
I can get dell visor for 1.2k using ezbuy prime service which is why I'm prone to it.
The lowest I see rift is 2k on shopee..
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post Jun 1 2018, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ May 31 2018, 10:38 AM)
Imho wmr was design for non gaming. It seems targetted at portability and text reading.
I suppose u can try get the dell visor. Maybe sell off if u find u wanna upgrade. Dell visor was my second choice. My decision for lenovo was scewed by youtube reviews. Looking at how dell position their front camera, user may have more range of tracking?
WMR software has vastly improved but also alot unaddress bugs. Notably the controller battery, controller angle in steam(default grip position is for vive).
The controller design is pretty bad. The angle of grip to trigger is 135 degrees, way too far from a normal gun and unnatural.
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For the angle problem I found a solution for you in this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsMR/comments...=reddit-android


QUOTE(Mr.PeeNutt @ May 31 2018, 01:32 PM)
wow that is cheap dell visor for 1.2k..and both Rift and Vive price on shopee also quite cheap

my friend using Rift more than a year and my Rift also almost a year..so far no problem at all..the material and build quality are top-notch.
Should be no issues within that 1 year warranty period that not valid over here.
But i'm not really sure about WMR headset quality..maybe try avoid Acer and HP..but for tht price should be ok to try the dell visor
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Yes after watching blunty's review I'm more keen on trying on dell visor just lots of hardware issue I read in reddit regarding dell visor keeps me from buying.

I'm just worries that after buying few months rosak then burn liao de money
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post Jun 1 2018, 05:30 AM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Jun 1 2018, 05:22 AM)
Do u mean u found the solution problem for the angle problem FROM me?

but yea the controllers feels like a cheap TV controller. I did smashed mine once and the outer ring case, joy stick and the plate form for joystick fell. fortunately all clicked back in without issue. therefore the controllers are not as durable as portrayed. It happens as i tried to throw(uppercut maneuver) but i was too close to my table..
I would expect this kind of device to last a year before it has problems.

if i would rebuy another WMR i would take dell visor bcoz i am right handed and lenovo has their heavy cable on the right.. it can get really annoying if u playing archery as ur right hand can be obstructed by the thick cable or hooked by ur headphone wire.
the price on ezbuy also seems suspicious.. even amazon sells for usd237.44. thats MYR944.89 on direct conversion. MYR 1.2k is a narrow profit margin esp with the cost of delivery and currency exchange. Just bcareful as it might be a refurbish set.
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Was that you lol?
The price became 1.²k if you use their prime service. Shipping became rm26 when use prime
I'll probably take dell visor then
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post Jun 1 2018, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Jun 1 2018, 05:42 AM)
yea thats me.. =p
seeings its only 1.2k it might be worth the risk. worst case if u dont like it u can sell it off 2nd hand here. bcoz there isnt official seller here, it should be easier to sell.

let us know once u get ur device.. there are a few custom settings u can do with WMR. notoriously the locomotion in SteamVR. which maybe bannable =_=.
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Can you give me your honest opinion in terms of graphic quality is it worth it to buy wmr over rift?
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post Jun 4 2018, 12:20 PM

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Sigh I'm torn in between rift and wmr

Want to get wmr for its higher resolution but worry about the controller wont be able to play some of the games I wanted to try , like golf vr. Need to do a lot of backspin on that.

But I see blunty demo play just fine though. Picking shield from the back what not
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post Jun 4 2018, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Jun 4 2018, 03:03 PM)
They do look very convincingly good on youtube right?
But trust me the controller tracking is inaccurate.
Do u have anyone with the rift to compare

Or do u wanna just buy from amazon, they have 30 days return. Now with gst gone, should be cheaper to return.
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All the videos in youtube looks good
Btw they said innacurate tracking is due to bluetooth problem. Did you try fixing yours?
U guys are the only people I know in malaysia with rift n vive lol
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post Jun 4 2018, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Jun 4 2018, 03:28 PM)
The way these ppl claim every tracking issue is due to bluetooth. Its BS. Rift and vive never had such big issue with bluetooth. Bluetooth transmit the rotations but the position is generally determined by the front camera.

I tested placing controller on the floor and walk around it. The controller position shifts by few cm as i walk in a circle around it.

I bought a lenovo and was wowed by the resolution but disappointed with their tracking.

Btw price in ezbuy has increased
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Increased? I saw it decreased. Before this 1131 now 1130 lol.. just one ringgit decrease
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post Jun 4 2018, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Jun 4 2018, 03:47 PM)
Yeah i think they added rm285 delivery fees.. i dint see that previously.
This makes the price closw to buying from amazon directly.
Buying from amazon would retain warranty and 30 days return refund.
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For dell visor on ezbuy you can use prime service which make shipping cost Rm18+8 only.
But to return back nees to go via them as well

Only for dell visor though. Other wmr need to use their buyforme services
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post Jun 4 2018, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Jun 4 2018, 03:59 PM)
Oh. I forgot bout that lol. But warranty might be an issue as its bound to the amazon account.

Hmm assuming wmr doesnt work out for u i suppose u could sell it second hand. And buy hopefully a new rift later?
U can still ask me what u need to know before buying
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What games have you tried it on and how bad was the controller?
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post Jun 5 2018, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Jun 4 2018, 05:31 PM)
tried on rec room, payday 2, arizona sunshine and VRchat.

sword fighting and shields are usually fine..
Bows for me is fine on WMR but i heard issues with some players.. it depends how u naturally aim ur bow? front hand moves vs back hand moves and vertical bow vs horizontal bow.
but WMR tracking performed badly if i were to snipe, throw grenades,or aiming upwards with paintball.
quick hand movements like this is also impossible in WMR. Click Here
It takes like an extra half second for the WMR hands to stabilize before u can shoot. and that can make a difference in multiplayer games.
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Game like 2md football vr should be a problem then? You need to throw a lot


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post Jun 6 2018, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(FluffyTee @ Jun 5 2018, 03:43 AM)
unfortunately it is. WMR is the wrong headset to play that game. throwing with a WMR headset is based of the algorithm and prediction. unless u always look at ur throwing hand. But even so the tracking itself isnt that great. its not easy to get a precise position of the hands when its external tracker(the headset) is also consistently moving.
anyone who says throwing is perfect on WMR is outright lying. If i had to throw in WMR, i have to do it from bottom top or Frisbee style. That being said, i have also manage to trick the WMR into making unrealistic insane throws from back to front by jerking the my wrist. I can throw dodgeball at incredible speed and distance.
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QUOTE(Mr.PeeNutt @ Jun 6 2018, 02:12 PM)
aiyoo..if u have extra cash just buy the Rift..you wont regret..the controller is perfect..the extra pixel resolution on wmr is only few hundred pixel differences ..u hardly notice once you inside the game



..i bet this exclusive Rift game 'The Climb' wont work on WMR controller..you will drop to dead once it not detect the controller presence  sweat.gif
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Holy crap that game is so cool. Yeah I've decided to get the rift. Shopee seller gave 1 year warranty so I'm getting that one
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post Oct 12 2020, 07:23 PM

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I just got charged. Amazon is shipping out my oculus quest 2
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post Oct 13 2020, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Oct 13 2020, 05:23 PM)
When is your arrival date?
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15-20

Yours?
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post Oct 14 2020, 06:27 AM

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Man im so angry right now. I paid for global priority shipping but they use standard shipping and now my quest wont arrive till nov 4th
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post Oct 14 2020, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(FatalExe @ Oct 14 2020, 10:10 AM)
What courier they used? Mine says UPS...
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Dhl
Dhl site says will arrive at 19th. Will see how

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