Hi guys, received this letter a day ago and I am not entirely sure about it,

Things I noticed,

- dated more than a month ago
- company owner's name was wrong

Anyone aware of letters like these please do shed some light thanks!

Yeah, I got this letter too. Dated a month ago, mispelled owner's name and company name. Should I care about this? Anyone actually get a visit from them before?

i also get this.
if using cracked windows xp (KMS activator) will kena?

just keep away ur pirated cd at home or something

You guys mentioned about the mispelled owner's name and company name. I think this should not be taken lightly.
After all, mispelled company name alone doesn't justify for not adhering to the letter. IMHO.

the email pinpoints to this site

http://www.opssemak.my/

let me know if it looks legitimate to you

a further link brings us to

http://www.rhingle.com/opsemak/contact.html

and a further look leads to

http://www.rhingle.com

About Us

Rhingle was incorporated in 2009 and currently based in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Rhingle is venturing into GUI (Graphical User Interface), NUI (Natural User Interface), AR (Augmented Reality) & Multi Touch markets.
We Humanize Technology

Riding on the wave of technology advancement and technology creativity, Rhingle focus on developing innovative technology that revolutionized the way the conventional software application is being designed. We implement cutting edge and some of the advanced technology available today. These allow Rhingle clients to:

Enhance the user experience of conventional software applications
Help clients to create different brand experience and reach out to new market
To provide customization on tester to address volatility in technology

^ Dayum! You are absolutely right!

it doesn't look legit, far from it.
Am wondering who's behind this scam

The letter has KPDNKK letterhead in it. If this is a scam, the scammer (which I assume is the person behind opssemak.my) has a big brass ball forging an official government ministry's letterhead, which is a criminal offence. To check whether this letter is genuine or not, call 1800886800 and ask whether the letter with the reference number included in the letter is valid or not.

Well, I did called them up but I couldn't tell if it's a scam or not. It's an automated answering machine at first whereby you press 1 for Malaysia and then a lady answer the phone and ask you to submit the Lampiran A and change your software to genuine license.

so, what's the conclusion ?
anyone submitted the Lampiran A already?

seems like those letter sent by gov maybe they suspect the company using pirated microsoft office and operating systems.

better use original version as microsoft will sent people to check your company whether using pirated or original software.

penalty up to rm 20000 AFAIK

takut-nya ~~

luckily i still using ori ~

never update ur window lol~

dont worry, they only hunting for big companies because if they get caught they will be able to pay the large amount of penalty fees.

home user usually wont kena la chill

That website looks more like a Worldpress template for me, doesn't look that professional.
Anyway, do contact Y.BHG. DATO’ HAJI ISKANDAR HALIM via his email address regarding the letter:

iskandar_halim@kpdnkk.gov.my

which i get from here:

http://www.kpdnkk.gov.my/kpdnkk/direktori-...NCE_TmI3_lvl4=0

Another side note:
The KPDNKK and BSA icon in opssemak is non-clickable.

This post has been edited by sI Taufu: Jun 2 2013, 02:44 PM

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This post has been edited by sI Taufu: Jun 2 2013, 02:50 PM

this thing is completely legit.

this is a "campaign" started on october last year that is supposed to run for a month, in which the gov appointed a company (go figure out which and who own it) with objective to ensure companies using genuine software and to stop piracy. you are not required to respond to it.

i think this ringle has nothing to do with the campaign. most probably the owner is a friend to the company that run the campaign and just let him park his opssemak.my in his website.

correction ... not only bigger company also small.. my friend punya friend already kene just less than 10 pc only... BSA will take action when someone report !

This post has been edited by sleyer: Jun 3 2013, 07:24 PM

They did call our company to follow up the lampiran A..
my colleague answer the phone..they said they are from Kementerian Perdagangan ..

So what's the conclusion? need to submit Lampiran together with all the details to them? It is legit?

This post has been edited by wh0cares: Jun 3 2013, 08:32 PM

Same here, they emailed it through company streamyx email. The spokesperson on the phone was not very government like ethic, I presume an agent acting on behalf. Nonetheless, I did not proceed to the audit because it's not like ISO certification, and it feels like telling your boss you're not doing your job well.

PS: I did ask wheres the head office, they replied in KL and no office in Sabah. Then why bother??? I'm based in Sabah,

fake.
1.Don't give any serial number coa to them->You buy coa now CD/DVD.
2.If BSA wanted to busted you,you will have to show the receipt you buy.even have CD also useless. SO they just wanted money.
3.They busted small company,cybercafe and ask them to 20k,mostly cannot afford then
make a something notice sorry in newspaper.Before lot in the star paper.
utusan paper cannot see one.
4. KPHdk or whatever.I see going around to pirate dvd shop and just note bla blah,that time for sure i don't even trust the gov. they rush who they like and do nothing.. If so megamall in kuantan no pirate dvd anymore.
5.They lot's of free software alternative.Go to linux,open office and so so on.

Real one I think Ops Semak 2013, but this one Ops Tulen Semak 2013..maybe trying to confuse I guess

I just called KPDNKK toll free line. Apparently this number connect to their Shah Alam office. So this person were unable to help. I got their Putra Jaya number and called but no reply.

I want to check whether this is legit or not.

So anyone verify with KPDNKK that this is genuine ?
This person called us again today for submition.

Have you tried calling the number at the letterhead?

I've got the same call from that 1800 number stated in the mail end of April. Googled only returns back the rhingles website and this : http://inazane.blogspot.com/2013/04/ops-tu...semak-2013.html . apparently the blog posted same day or the day i got this call. Just way too coincidence.

The malay lady asked for my email address but we did not provide. She claims she is calling from Kementerian Perdagangan. We check on those websites including BSA toll free number it is different. Furthermore if they are from the ministry they should have our contact details + email address and company details as per registration process. The number that reached your mobile display as 1800 number, i've never received such number before, if from Gov dept still shows a local number +603 even they have toll free numbers.

After almost 2 mths, today they start calling again. We done the WHOIS checked 2 mths back, apparently that is hosted with EXABYTES as posted by another user in which used to be our hosting provider before we terminated their service which was pretty bad. Not sure if our contacts was given out from there as well (its juz another coincidence).

This incident seems to be a SCAM targeting businesses. We are also SMEs < 3 people - why will they targeting such small companies. Not sure what is their next steps after u submitted the Lampiran A, but probably they need your Serial No# like mentioned by some users here or ask u to pay a fine which prob taken by them (not to govt).

my aunty just called me today becoz this Ops Tulan Semal email them to request for proof of original software, wonder should my aunty submit info to them or not.

If ur s/w is original, why not let them come and check in person.. at least no need to worry people copy your COA keys

KUALA LUMPUR - Sebanyak 20,000 syarikat di seluruh negara diletakkan dalam senarai Ops Semak Tulen oleh Bahagian Penguatkuasaan Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri, Koperasi dan Kepenggunaan (KPDNKK), setelah mereka tidak mengambil tindakan kepada mailer yang dihantar dari kementerian sebagai sebahagian daripada kempen cetak rompak perisian.

Cetak rompak perisian di tempat kerja merupakan isu yang serius yang memberi kesan kepada produktiviti negara, kata Pengarah Penguatkuasaan KPDNKK, Mohd. Roslan Mahayudin dalam kenyataan yang dikeluarkan di sini.

Kempen cetak rompak perisian Ops Semak Tulen dilancarkan pada 5 Feb tahun ini oleh KPDNKK untuk menangani penggunaan berleluasa perisian cetak rompak dan tidak berlesen dalam kalangan perniagaan.

Beliau berkata kementerian itu telah mengenal pasti lebih 25,000 syarikat dan perniagaan seluruh negara untuk proses yang dijalankan pada April dan Mei tahun ini.

"Walaupun program mailer adalah satu proses pendidikan semata-mata, Kementerian meminta agar penerima mailer menjalankan audit perisian komputer syarikat mereka dan melaporkan kembali kepada Sekretariat Ops Semak Tulen sebelum tarikh akhir 10 Mei,” kata Mohd Roslan.

Bagaimanapun, beliau berkata hanya kira-kira 20 peratus daripada syarikat sasaran telah menjawab pada tarikh akhir.

"Ini bermakna hampir 20,000 syarikat dan perniagaan yang menerima mailer sama ada tidak tahu apa yang mereka perlu lakukan, atau tidak peduli untuk menjawab langsung.

Cetak rompak perisian korporat bukan sesuatu yang diambil ringan oleh kerajaan, katanya. - Bernama



http://www.kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?...ni&pg=bt_26.htm

Newspaper cut out from nanyang on 18/06/2013.


This thing is definitely real. The question is, to what extend can they carry out the audit? 20,000 companies? Just how much human power and time do you need to check every 20k company?

Secondly, how deep will they dig into your pcs? Companies these days use so many software these days: ms office, adobe, autocad etc. Will they seriously look at every single software installed on your pc?

It would be helpful if any member can share your experience if you have been audited before.

i think this is a scam

I just submit on behalf of my company. But i nv attach any serial keys to the letter. It's just the borang only and emailed with signature. That's what the letter say. U must submit the borang A form.

The letter didnt mention anything of submitting the serial keys.

If they want to check whether the software is legit, they'll have to visit personally to check the company's software individually.

I received a call from them last week and they ask me to submit the details of the license as a proof. Once sent,they will pass it to the enforcement to decide whether they will conduct the inspection. This is what the person say to me. By the way, I had email to them the proof of license details.

Did anyone received a second letter from them. I had received it for the 2nd time. I notice that the 2nd letter, the only difference between the 1st letter it mentioned " due to many company asking for the expiry extension date, the ministry had decided to extent it". The rest of the details same as the 1st letter.

Extent until when?

within 5 days upon receiving the letter

hi guys. i received a 2nd@3rd msg like this:

Kepada tuan/puan,

Beberapa bulan yang lepas, pihak urusetia telah berurusan dengan syarikat tuan/puan berkenaan dengan kepentingan menghantar pengesahan audit perisian di bawah “Lampiran A” dan memastikan pematuhan perisian dengan Akta Hak Cipta 1987.

Kini tempoh bagi penghantaran bukti pembelian telah pun berakhir. Pihak kami mendapati bahawa pihak tuan/puan telah gagal dalam memberikan kerjasama untuk menghantar bukti pembelian yang diperlukan oleh pihak kami dalam kempen ini walaupun pihak kami telah menghantar permintaan dan perigatan kepada pihak tuan/puan. Oleh itu, penghantaran “Lampiran A” daripada pihak tuan/puan tidak akan diambil kira dan pihak kami akan mengagap pihak tuan/puan tidak memberikan kerjasama kepada pihak kami. Sebarang penghantaran dokumen berkenaan dengan kempen ini daripada pihak tuan/puan selepas ini tidak akan diterima. Rekod kami telah dikemaskini dan telah pun dihantar kepada pihak penguatkuasaan MDTCC untuk tindakan selanjutnya.

Kami menggesa pihak tuan/puan untuk segera mengambil tindakan dengan mematuhi dan hanya menggunakan perisian yang tulen untuk mengelakkan sebarang kesulitan atau kerugian kepada perniagaan tuan/puan akibat daripada penalti yang dikenakan sebagaimana yang terdapat dalam Akta Hak Cipta 1987.

tho i submitted e LAmpiran A, proof of purchase etc, i still got this kind of reply. can someone advised on what to do? tried calling their hotline no. but it seems unreachable edi.

Got the same message too. And like you, I did submit my proof of purchase. This whole thing has been so unprofessionally handled it's hard to take it seriously. From the dubious website to the threatening mass mailer emails that look like they're purely designed to extort money. Seriously what reaction are they expecting by sending this email?

i also received the same email, although i've submitted lampiran A and proof of purchase, i also tried call their hotline, not reachable, then called 0380008000, a nice lady pickup and i ask about this ops semak tulen 2013, she give me 3 numbers, 03-88825998,03-88826526,03-88826103 but all 3 number not reachable, 1st try it rings but no one pickup, try 20 mins later, direct got auto message says nombor ini sedang digunakan.

Having the same problem as well. Receive the same 2nd letter that my company did not cooperate with them. Already email & fax it over and still receive this letter. Trying to call their hotline and fax machine now. No response.

Same problem with 2nd letter to my old ignorance boss.

Called 1MCC call center, they gave two mobile numbers of the KPDNKK officers and the same 1800 187 071 number (as in the first letter).

Called the two mobile number, no one picks up.

finally, an officer i used 2 liaise wf replied

"Kindly ignore that email as it was sent out generally as a final reminder. I have received all the documents for your company. I do apologise for the inconvenience caused"

haizh... gvg me teror this early mrng. hope u guys will sort it out too...

Just now call 1malaysia hotline 8000 8000 and get 2 contact number. Call those number and no one pick up. What's with all those services....

One of mobile number did answered the call and said, there was a "technical error" on why the mailer was sent out.

Fuuuhhh, my boss is too old for this shit.

I saw a few companies got his letter also 2 months ago. Basically i told them to use BSA format and send back together with lampiran A. AND DO NOT SEND OUT SERIAL NUMBER. When during BSA time many years ago, they did not ask for serial number, but number of pc/ server & type of software only. Then yearly should submit same declaration of number of pc and software. We should follow it this way.

You should not give out serial number to them because it might be sold or given to pirates to make legitimate copies of your software. If you have original software, there is no need to be afraid of them come checking. You should have all the necessary windows stickers, office license and anti virus licenses ready if they drop in.

I do not have any idea why they need proof of purchase for. Check for stolen computer/ software? Tax the software/ hardware selling company? Tax for the units of computers in office?

If it was a scam, then u only provided not enough details for them to work with. If u provide number of pc and software (Which is enough for them to do a counter check) then you have nothing to fear. And NO serial number should be given. If they want, they should come and check, take pictures so we know who took it.

Giving out serial number to anyone/ anybody is already an offence to begin with. Being a Gov agency does not give u the right to take this also. Because seriously if i were a big time pirate and have links to that agency that is collecting serial numbers, i could repack and sell a genuine copy of any software already. Most software companies already know of such tactics of selling stolen serial numbers.

This post has been edited by netmatrix: Jul 19 2013, 12:02 PM

Company should only give out serial numbers during Microsoft audit, when dealing directly with Microsoft personnel, not other people.

Any link to get the BSA format?

Use any of the tools.

http://ww2.bsa.org/country/Tools%20and%20R...it%20Tools.aspx

It's easy. Just like BSA they will stick thumbdrive into the pc and it will scan the registry and program files folder for any trace of pirated software. It will take a couple of minutes to scanand print out a report.

So far it is only 1 or 2 companies reported being caught right this year ? to check over 20,000 will take many years.

Checking companies from reports is much easier than checking from companies A-Z. If u have a business, go legal less the stupid worries of getting raided and fined. Might as well just worry about finding more money.

Hi all.. as concern, i sent email to KPDNKK regarding this but no reply after 1 week gone. n then i resend same email n cc to others govern agencies. at the end, i get some reply from 1 of govern agencies (as attached below)..

where do they get the KPDNKK letter head? it is fake

how do they have letterhead from KPDNKK? how shud i know.. but i do have attached the letter with KPDNKK letterhead together with that email. n then i got reply by BPA (bahagian pengaduan awam) as screenshot above. they told me to ignore email from www.opssemak.my as KPDNKK has nothing to do wit this kind of letter.

For those that already email them the serial keys and proof of purchased, wondering what they going to do with it.
Ignoring them, but there are still ten of thousands unaware of it.

its hard to tell, but the truth is.. we have to double check wit KPDNKK as they request us to provide them thus product ID for every single PC tat we have. i believe it is PNC...by the way, as long as our PC/laptop has genuine Microsoft sticker, it shud be enough rite??.. lucky my email has been replied. at least if they -->>opssemak are really tulen guys, then i have black and white to show them y i shud not answer their email.. . thanks alot PCB [http://www.pcb.gov.my/] for helping me follow up this issue to KPDNKK. nice action.

Guys for your information, the letter is real.

I been receive this kind of letter since year 2012/2013

On 2012
- They just request stated what ever license you have and how many PC you have.
(Do not ever ever give your license key)

On 2013
- The will send you a reminder to do audit.

Do not worry, as long you all use original software, nothing to worry.


2 Kind of scenario:

1. If BSA or Supplier(without enforcement people) claim they want to do checking.
- Do ask for Court Warrant.

If no warrant, please ignore them, they don't have any right to access your premises.
If you allow them come in and found pirate software, they will give some dateline to purchase back the software.


2. If BSA with enforcement people and court warrant, you have no choice to allow them to do a search. (Someone is reporting with evident).


Best practice is do software audit every 6 month.

What to do when they come over:
1. Inventory List
2. Licenses available
3. Invoice

With all this is good enough, and please do not give your admin password to them.

By the way they will visit with vendor (microsoft or autodesk) with their legal team.

This post has been edited by bluefries: Oct 3 2013, 09:45 PM