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GHOSTVIC
post Apr 6 2014, 03:44 AM

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Hi bro.. currently im looking for business premises loan.. full flexi loan.. which bank offering good interest rates full flexi for business premise ?.. mine falls under subsale... I see some loan alrdy coming with MRTA is tht must or optional like we can go for MLTA ?
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post Apr 11 2014, 12:23 AM

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ok bro

lets say loan amount 275,000, tenure 15 years, age 33 non smoker..

what would be the MRTA ? is it one time payment or need to pay yearly / monthly ? as i know MRTA gets charged in loan amount when we first apply.. so in the event of death, what ever loan amount left will be paid off ?

how about MLTA, if im interested in MLTA type 2 with Guaranteed Surrender Value how the quotation ?
so after 15 years tenure once i paid off my loan, i can surrender my MLTA and get back the money or i continue pay ?

but see in previous posting MLTA just covers 50% of the loan amount ? if any death or permanent disability, when the loan amout is 200,000... it just covers 100,000 and the balance i need to settle my self ?


need your advice bro
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post Apr 29 2014, 02:15 AM

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Hi bro thanks for your brief explanation. . Really appreciate it..
ok on MRTA what is that about "financed" and "non financed"










QUOTE(onnying88 @ Apr 14 2014, 06:48 PM)
Hi, As for you quotation for MRTA and MLTA,
Quotation for MRTA

Age: 33 (1981)
Male / Non-smoker
Loan: RM275k
MRTA coverage of RM275k for 15 years, Cover Death & TPD (Total Permanent Disability)


MRTA premium will be RM3811.00 (one time payment only).

Coverage table for 15 years
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Quotation for MLTA
For MLTA type 1 with NO Surrender Value (but will have some value only if you surrender this policy earlier)

Age: 33 (1981)
Male / Non-smoker
Loan: RM275k
MLTA coverage type 1 coverage of RM275k, Cover Death & TPD (Total Permanent Disability)

MLTA type 1 coverage for 10 years,
Monthly premium = RM52.46
Yearly premium = RM599.50

MLTA type 1 coverage for 15 years,
Monthly premium = RM67.14
Yearly premium = RM767.25

MLTA type 1 coverage for 20 years,
Monthly premium = RM88.55
Yearly premium = RM1012.00
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For MLTA type 2 with Guaranteed Surrender Value
Age: 33 (1981)
Male / Non-smoker
Loan: RM275k
MLTA Tenure: There is NO term for this MLTA type 2 so it can be use up to age 100, just surrender this policy at any year you want to terminate or when the loan fully paid.
MLTA coverage type 2 coverage of RM275k, Cover Death & TPD only


Monthly premium = RM295.25
Yearly premium = RM3374.25
GUARANTEED
Surrender value at 40years = RM181,528.00 (total paid only RM134,970.00)
Surrender value at 35years = RM157,572.00 (total paid only RM118,098.75)
Surrender value at 30years = RM131,384.00 (total paid only RM101,227.50)
Surrender value at 25years = RM103,980.00 (total paid only RM84,356.25)
Surrender value at 20years = RM77,740.00 (total paid only RM67,485.00)
Surrender value at 15years = RM53,045.00 (total paid only RM50,613.75)
Surrender value at 14years = RM47,581.00 (total paid only RM47,239.50) <----- RM3374.25 x 14years = RM47,239.50
Your quotation for this MLTA type 2 surrender value will break even at 14 years. Meaning you will get back what you've paid at 14 years guaranteed. Let's say you settle the loan earlier in 14 or 15 years, you already get back more then you paid for the MLTA thus you can say you are getting FREE MLTA coverage for RM275k and earning some interest too. And in the middle, you may refinance or change/upgrade to bigger property as you wish without burn the MLTA.
Beside you have the option to continue this MLTA until age 100 and treat this as your saving account with guaranteed return or even a extra life insurance after the loan settle. This will be cheaper a lot compare that you getting a new RM275k life insurance with same benefit at older age and and the new insurance will subject to approval depend on your health condition at that time too.
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For MLTA type 3 with non guaranteed surrender value
(This is an investment link plan which the surrender value will base on investment fund performance thus the surrender value is not guaranteed)
Age: 33 (1981)
Male / Non-smoker
Loan: RM275k
MLTA Tenure: There is NO term for this MLTA type 3 also, so it can be use up to age 100, just surrender this policy at any year you want to terminate or when the loan fully paid.
MLTA  type 3 coverage of RM275k, Cover Death & TPD and OAD (old age disability)


Monthly premium = RM150.00
Yearly premium = RM1800.00
Projected Surrender value
At 14 years, High = Rm24,005.00, Low = Rm17,600.00
At 15 years, High = Rm26,605.00, Low = Rm18,943.00
At 20 years, High = Rm40,987.00, Low = Rm24,709.00
At 25 years, High = Rm51,663.00, Low = Rm28,021.00
At 30 years, High = Rm61,458.00, Low = Rm27,960.00
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Regarding your question,

what would be the MRTA ? is it one time payment or need to pay yearly / monthly ? as i know MRTA gets charged in loan amount when we first apply.. so in the event of death, what ever loan amount left will be paid off ?


Your MRTA premium will be RM3811.00. The premium is only one time payment and you may choose to charge into the loan or pay by cash.
In the event of death, the coverage amount will be refer to the coverage table as above. If Let say in the near future the BLR rate rise above the MRTA coverage table of 8%, then your loan balance might be higher then the MRTA coverage thus you will need to pay the different. So we cannot guaranteed MRTA can fully cover the loan amount if BLR rise.
how about MLTA, if  im interested in MLTA type 2 with Guaranteed Surrender Value how the quotation ? 
so after 15 years tenure once i paid off my loan, i can surrender my MLTA and get back the money or i continue pay ?

but see in previous posting MLTA just covers 50% of the loan amount ? if any death or permanent disability, when the loan amout is 200,000... it just covers 100,000 and the balance i need to settle my self ?


For MLTA type 2, your premium will be Rm3374.25 per year. And let's say you pay off the loan at 15th years, you may surrender this MLTA type 2 and get back RM53,045.00 (total paid only Rm3374.25 x 15years = RM50,613.75) guaranteed.

Yes, If you option for only cover 50% of the loan amount (for your case 50% = Rm137,500), at any event of death and TPD, only 50% or RM137,500 will be paid.
But of cause, if you choose to cover 50%, the MLTA premium will be reduce by around 50% too.
From the above quotation,

-MRTA give you the cheapest premium at Rm3811.00 to cover for 15 years. But MRTA coverage is reducing and it's not transferable when you refinance, or getting new loan when change/upgrade property in future. You will need to buy MRTA again and of cause the MRTA premium will be higher as age getting older.

Do note that if you finance the MRTA into the loan, you will be charge interest also. As for Rm3811 finance into loan at BLR-2.4% @ 15 years, you total payment over 15 years will be Rm5143.14.
-If you option for cheapest alternative to replace MRTA, then you may option for MLTA type 1.
MLTA type 1 only cost Rm767.25 per year or Rm11,508.75.

Although it cost almost double of the MRTA, it do provide few extra benefit.
-flexibility to transfer to cover others loan.
-level coverage of RM275k for 15 years.
(For example in the event at the 13th year, MRTA only cover Rm83,944.00 but this MLTA type 1 will still cover Rm275k. An extra of Rm191k cash for your family after settle the loan.)
-Premium is constant and will not increase regardless of BLR rate.
If your commitment allow, then you may option for MLTA type 2, As it will guaranteed you free coverage right after 14 years. As you will get back all your money paid after 14 years. You will also have the option to continue the coverage until age 100.
Regards,
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GHOSTVIC
post May 2 2014, 09:23 PM

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i have concern here broz...how they define as first property , second property and so on owner ?
sum1 that already have 1st property and buy another property definitely that his 2nd property... and this is pretty straight forward..

now the confusing part is...

for the first time, i bought my father's property under joint name which is my siblings.. means 3 of us bought a property from my dad. so now 3 of us consider 1st property owners.....

then later i decided to become single owner of that same property, means i buy my siblings portion and do new S&P under my name..so now do i fall in 2nd property owner category ? if i own this property and buy any other property then it can be considered 2nd property owner...but in my case im buying same property which i already owned under joint name before...

as i know Until 31st December 2014, 50% exemption will be given on stamp duty on the instrument of transfer agreements and loan agreements for the purchase of the first residential property of up to RM400,000

infact when we bought my dad's property under joint name we never had any stampduty exemption even though tht time consider its 1st property.. so now do i entitle ? am i first property owner ? 2nd property owner ?

This post has been edited by GHOSTVIC: May 2 2014, 09:37 PM
GHOSTVIC
post May 16 2014, 12:03 AM

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hi BRO,

what would be the quotation for MRTA and MLTA...
my age 33 now
loan amount is RM420,000 for 30 years
loan amount is RM480,000 for 30 years


QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 3 2014, 04:28 PM)
As I know, as long you never use the quota for that 50% discount, you still can use it now in your case. But better consult a lawyer for confirmation.
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This post has been edited by GHOSTVIC: May 16 2014, 12:33 AM
GHOSTVIC
post May 18 2014, 07:45 PM

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hi bro thanks for ur reply... so 30 years MRTA lump sum

Rm420k for 30 years, premium will be RM18,765.00
Rm480k for 30 years, premium will be RM21,446.40

i still hav option to take like 10 years / 15 years ? then when reaching the expiry can renew ?
what is the disadvantages and advantages of taking half duration and renew later ?
is it in future after 15 years, i go another 15 years the price will be different since cost goes high... ?
is it like if i take 15 years... RM18,765.00 becomes RM9382.50...
then after 15 years, renew base on the outstanding balance...
so in this case, i believe can save more.. incase if i able to reduce more principal on first 15 years. The next 15 years would be cheaper right.


example now im 33 if i take straight 30 years for 480k cost RM21,446.40
if i take just 1st 15 years for 480k, mayb it cost half of above price
then after 15 years, in age 48 lets say my principal balance is RM319524, and i take MRTA for next 15 years..
how the price looks like ?

-straight 30 years 480k cost RM21,446.40
-1st 15 years (age 33) RM480000 cost ?
-2nd 15 years (age 48) RM319524 cost ?
-add up both sum doest it lower / higher than straight 30 years purchasing ?



need ur advice since i feel RM18,765.00 / RM21,446.40... straight 30 years eating up cash


ok the MLTA quotation of yours, is it mixed up with any riders ? can i have just surrender value purpose.
i already have personal insurances with medical card and critical illness...



QUOTE(onnying88 @ May 16 2014, 02:02 AM)
Hi, As for you quotation for MRTA and MLTA,

Quotation for MRTA

Age: 33 (1981)
Male / Non-smoker
MRTA cover for Death & TPD (Total Permanent Disability)


MRTA coverage of Rm420k for 30 years, premium will be RM18,765.00

MRTA coverage of Rm480k for 30 years, premium will be RM21,446.40
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Quotation for MLTA
For MLTA type 1 with NO Surrender Value (but will have some value only if you surrender this policy earlier)

Age: 33 (1981)
Male / Non-smoker
MLTA  type 1 , Cover Death & TPD (Total Permanent Disability)


MLTA type 1 coverage of Rm420k for 30 years,
Monthly premium = RM209.10
Yearly premium = RM2389.80

MLTA type 1 coverage of Rm480k for 30 years,
Monthly premium = RM238.98
Yearly premium = RM2731.20
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For MLTA type 2 with Guaranteed Surrender Value
Age: 33 (1981)
Male / Non-smoker
MLTA Tenure: There is NO term for this MLTA type 2 so it can be use up to age 100, just surrender this policy at any year you want to terminate or when the loan fully paid.
MLTA coverage type 2 coverage of RM420k, Cover Death & TPD only


Monthly premium = RM450.92
Yearly premium = RM5153.40

GUARANTEED
Surrender value at 40years = RM277,242.00 (total paid only RM206,136.00)
Surrender value at 35years = RM240,656.00 (total paid only RM180,369.00)
Surrender value at 30years = RM200,659.00 (total paid only RM154,602.00)
Surrender value at 25years = RM158,806.00 (total paid only RM128,835.00)
Surrender value at 20years = RM118,730.00 (total paid only RM103,068.00)
Surrender value at 14years = RM72,688.00 (total paid only RM72,147.60) <----- RM5153.40 x 14years = RM72,147.60

MLTA coverage type 2 coverage of RM480k, Cover Death & TPD only


Monthly premium = RM515.32
Yearly premium = RM5889.60

GUARANTEED
Surrender value at 40years = RM316,848.00 (total paid only RM235,584.00)
Surrender value at 35years = RM275,035.00 (total paid only RM206,136.00)
Surrender value at 30years = RM229,325.00 (total paid only RM176,688.00)
Surrender value at 25years = RM181,493.00 (total paid only RM147,240.00)
Surrender value at 20years = RM135,691.00 (total paid only RM117,792.00)
Surrender value at 14years = RM83,050.00 (total paid only RM82,454.40) <----- RM5889.60 x 14years = RM82,454.40
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For MLTA type 3 with non guaranteed surrender value
(This is an investment link plan which the surrender value will base on investment fund performance thus the surrender value is not guaranteed)
Age: 33 (1981)
Male / Non-smoker
MLTA Tenure: There is NO term for this MLTA type 3 also, so it can be use up to age 100, just surrender this policy at any year you want to terminate or when the loan fully paid.
MLTA  type 3, Cover Death & TPD and OAD (old age disability)



MLTA coverage type 2 coverage of RM420k, Cover Death & TPD only

Monthly premium = RM200.00
Yearly premium = RM2400.00

Projected Surrender value
At 14 years, High = Rm31,051.00, Low = Rm22,708.00
At 20 years, High = Rm52,067.00, Low = Rm31,036.00
At 25 years, High = Rm64,009.00, Low = Rm33,655.00
At 30 years, High = Rm73,261.00, Low = Rm30,687.00

MLTA coverage type 2 coverage of RM480k, Cover Death & TPD only

Monthly premium = RM220.00
Yearly premium = RM2640.00

Projected Surrender value
At 14 years, High = Rm33,816.00, Low = Rm24,710.00
At 20 years, High = Rm56,373.00, Low = Rm33,478.00
At 25 years, High = Rm68,724.00, Low = Rm35,746.00
At 30 years, High = Rm77,601.00, Low = Rm31,500.00
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The best MLTA plan for you would be the MLTA type 3 as the premium is the lowest among all MLTA option with the bonus of non guaranteed surrender value.

If the commitment is ok for you, then MLTA type 2 will be a good choice as you guaranteed can get back all your premium paid as early at 14th years. So you will not lose your money to get the protection of Rm480k right after 14 years.
Do let me know if you have any question regarding the quotation above.

Regards,
Onn
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This post has been edited by GHOSTVIC: May 20 2014, 04:20 AM
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post Jan 22 2015, 11:09 PM

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Hi Bro,

I just got this illustration for MRTA from PUBLIC BANK, MRTA from AIA known as GMRTA

For 30 years tenure MRTA is RM15,305.10 for RM510k loan amount.
Then financed into loan RM525,306.


According to banker, if still under financing the initial beneficiary will be bank.
If settle loan early and never cancel the MRTA policy then the nominee appointed will be the beneficiary.

Called AIA to find out if there is any refund for MRTA. Confirmed there is refund if settle loan early.

Currently public bank BR rate is 3.65% + 0.95 / 1.0 / 1.1 (depends on type property and amount of loan)


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so what would be your MRTA / MLTA quotation for the same loan amount bro onnying88 ?

i see there is Mortgage Reducing/Level Term Assurance with Critical Illness (MRTA–CI/MLTA-CI)

standard MRTA/MLTA only covers DEATH and TPD only right.

 

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