1st - WN-SK
2nd - Blinknet 1
3rd - SKz
This post is not all about the results...but also the ugly truth that has taken place on that very day...Sadly it seems like the future gaming scene in our country is being handed into some irresponsible individuals. When E-sports is handed to unprofessional individuals to manage it, the whole thing that was build few years back turns out to be a joke and like what others think, it's a kiddy game and never will be huge. I wrote this hoping that this does not happen at upcoming qualification for the SMM tournament, and also future events.
On the very 1st day of the competition, one incident occurred whereby rules were broken in one of the fixtures. I will not mention names or clans or teams, I will only concentrate on the issue. The winning team, which won by huge number of points broke a rule, they accidentally passed an item, using CHICKEN to take items, the hero took another player's Head Of Rejuvenation and hold it. Marshall said, he knew there was an issue of that on the same time it happened, but said go on, replays to be checked after the match, I don't know he kept quiet about the item passing to the related player because if he saw it, he could have just asked the player to pass it back. Maybe the opponent made a complaint, but I doubt that, no way they would've any knowledge about it happening since it happened near to the players base. So why didn't Marshall warn the player?
But, not only the winning team broke a rule, the opponent made more than 2 mekanism. Ok now we have 2 teams breaking one of the rules. After checking the replay, the Marshall only called the winning team's leader, which again I repeat made the huge win. I told him nothing to worry, the worse they can do is deduct some points but you guys will still win it due to the heavy win. Then the dumbest decision I've ever heard took place, the Marshall said they are disqualified! Everybody was shocked, I then told the Marshall to deduct some points and go on with the event, he didn't agree and said they did the same thing in JOHOR qualifications. Once you break a rule you are disqualified he said boasting their experience. I argued then why did the opponent who were losing, made more than the allowed amount of mekanism didn't get punished as well. Again backing the absurd decision, saying the winning team broke the rule 1st before the losing team. He then loudly said, "team leader, you don't know the rules? How come your players don't know the rules". -REMEMBER THIS LINE -
To those who doesn't understand the issue clearly, let me help you. Team 1 raped a rule, later Team 2 raped the rule later after that. The judge said, since Team 1 raped the RULES 1st, they die, and Team 2 who also raped the RULES gets away. Do I need to write or say this any damn slower? Rapist all must get punished please...
Does the Marshall's answer sounds fair or logic to anyone out there? If it does, you must have and IQ lower than a cow. Ok, we shall not go there, lets review the issue...let me ask one question to everybody out there, does Head Of Rejuvenation that was passed accidentally made a big difference to 3-4 mekanism. Come on now, seriously... Replay showed it all. It was very shocking, hearing the strict actions taken by the Marshalls, yet absurd. Even after hearing the logic and fair arguments, they stand to their decision, even showing bad attitude. When such strong arguments where thrown at them, they as usual simply let their egos fly out, didn't admit their mistake and said they will only talk to team leader and others leave the meeting. This argument went on from afternoon to night, because something else happened later on.
This happened between another Team versus another Team. Again no names mentioned as I do not wish to insult or hurt anyone's feelings. Another rule was broken, this time a back door issue. The winning team made this mistake. Hero went blinking behind tower without any creep, used cyclone on enemy hero, and then start hitting the tower twice before concentrating on killing the enemy. Tower was in full health, I know you all might think that doesn't count back door since the tower was in full health. Think again please, the tower did break after that, 2 hits from a hero means more than 2 seconds was used to do that. This format of competition was 60 mins. Every second counts! Technically it was a very important issue. Earlier, one team won by 59:59 time, exactly 1 second they broke a tower for the win. How can attacking an important building earlier not taken seriously into account? Of course the team won with good points, same thing as earlier incident, winning team made mistake, looking at the nature of the situation, disqualifying a good team is not wise. Surprisingly the Marshall said no disqualification this time. How come they come out with a different decision now? How random can they be? If the 1st decision when a team breaks a rule is to disqualify them, how can they just change it to their liking with no good reasons? This paragraph will look long if I keep talking about their absurd decisions, lets create a new paragraph shall we?
Doesn't these two cases sound similar? Winning team with huge points broke 1 rule. Different sets of rule for teams? What is this? The Marshall even argued don't bring the old case as it was not the same. I don't know how confident can one person be giving absurd excuses and explanations, standing in the middle of an army of DotA gamers. What missing was a red nose, flashy clothes and make-up.
Gamers mostly are young and may not discus maturely in great manner, but when such unfairness was shown, I do not blame them. Yes some heated arguments went on, curses was thrown back to each other. I do not know how much knowledge do they have on the game, but you must have some common sense still, decisions doesn't make any sense at all. All they were interested was to finish the event as soon as possible, avoiding any decent meeting, or any complaints. Let me tell you, gamers pay for joining this competition, they wasted their time for training, wasted money, time, health not to be treated like this, without us GAMERS you are nothing. Few years back I was into Counterstrike (CS), traveling from Melaka to KL for tournaments. The very 1st competition, I still remember the Marshall's face, he showed some funny attitude for no reason. I said, can my team play in the second floor since we were there just now and it felt good. He said, you are placed there, but since you want it, I am not giving it to you, I heard giggling from opponent, my mates were damn furious, but we kept cool as we must be professionals. We didn't travel, wait, stay in hotel to be treated like this. Saw what happened to CS in our community? Dead. Those who promote the game killed it actually. Won't realize it and won't admit it.
You need knowledgeable people, deep knowledge of the game, kind friendly enough and of course a great problem solver. Not a clown. You put people like this handling the E-sports, how unserious that shows and of course it is a money making industry, and that is what they are aiming, nothing more.
Sorry, I'm not finished yet. After the 1st day of the competition, the team that was disqualified checked the website of the organization. It clearly stated that pooling doesn't say disqualifications, like I said earlier, just deduct some points. Well Marshall has the power to do what they wish don't they? Remember the line above? Yes, who don't know what rule? They don't even know their own rule, can boast some more about disqualifying a JOHOR team for that, I feel sorry for that team.
The next day, the team was placed back in the fixtures. Of course Marshall have to do it, and I know they felt ashamed. The next morning, when my team arrived, at 11 am Marshall stopped us at the entrance and scolded us for being late. Saying it was 10.30 am. Since the winning team was put back in slot, of course it wasn't our time to play, common sense. No, to the Marshall it was something else, it was personal I guess, then demanded for respect. "You guys don't give us respect, come late when I said it was 10.30am, you don't respect us is it?" I told him, it is not our time to play also, and said if we were there or not there it doesn't make any difference, as after we entered we had to wait a long time also for the matches to finish, duh! No registeration needed, no nothing! Still, Marshall wasn't happy. Not professional what to do, made it personal. Respect is not to be demanded or asked for, respect is earned. And they don't earn it yes. He can even say this without shame, "We admit we were wrong yesterday, but now you don't want to admit you are wrong". Since when they admit they wrong? We had to do their job, we had to rectify them, we had to keep it alive. Don't they get paid to do that? Did I mentioned how killing it was to wait in there? Felt like sauna, crowded , hard time playing in there plus crappy pc (karipap pc? LoL).
I bet Marshall were familiar with some teams there.
These set of Marshall will be the same at all the qualifications I guess. Hope they hire better people with good communication skills.
Anyway, it went well in the end. The best team won.
Decisions were one sided don't know why. (lala~)
Lets not kill DotA just like CS.
Good Luck to the rest in their upcoming qualifications!
Sorry if this post wasn't pleasant enough, but it is the truth.
P/S : Flizzardo, stop mentioning FLL in this forum. They don't fancy it.
This post has been edited by Tienhoven: Apr 25 2006, 08:25 AM
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