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TSnoobandroid
post May 6 2013, 06:23 PM, updated 12y ago

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This thread serves as a Q&A section for all new/existing audiophiles seeking advice on their next headphone purchase!

The rules are simple, no flaming/bashing and try not to spam (posting irrelevant post).
You may ask us any headphone/earphone related question, and we will gladly assist you. Don't be shy!

When asking, please remember to STATE YOUR BUDGET. Better if you give exact numbers... "not so expensive la" is not considered a budget

Other info such as the following will also be helpful to get faster and more accurate responses:
- Your rig (mp3 players, amps, sound card etc)
- What type of usage (movies/ gaming/ music etc)
- File format used in your source (i.e. flac, mp3 etc)
- Genre of music you listen to (classical, jazz, metal, etc)
- Headphone/ earphone type (closed, open, circumaural, IEM etc)
- Other requirements (if any) (mic, volume control, 5.1ch, 7.1ch etc)

Possible reference sites for reviews:

Headfonia
In Ear Matters
Head-Fi
Headphones / IEM by WhatHIFI ratings
CNet IEM reviews
InnerFi

From previous thread
Multi IEM review - 214 IEMs reviewed (ljokerl @ Head-Fi)
Shootout - 82 portable headphones reviewed (ljokerl @ Head-Fi)
How to choose the perfect pair of headphones/earphones (lifehacker.com)
To Amp, Or Not to Amp? (inearmatters.net)
Portable amp roundup! 56 portable amps reviewed and compared (Skylab @ Head-fi)
Custom IEM Resource Thread - Summary Reviews, Info, Custom IEM Manufacturers (average_joe @ Head-Fi)
IEM List (inearmatters.net)
Concise multi-IEM comparison (inearmatetrs.net)
12 Earbuds compared (swbf2cheater @ Head-Fi)
Audio Glossary

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post May 6 2013, 06:23 PM

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Some audio terms used in this thread and their meaning:

Circumaural headphones:
Sometimes called full size headphones, these are made in a circular fashion that surround the ear completely.

Closed back:
Closed back (or sealed) headphones are designed to reduce the effect of external noise on your listening and also to keep the noise made by the headphone drivers from leaking out and disturbing people around you.

Ear Bud:
Ear bud headphones are small in size and are placed directly outside the ear canal.

In Ear Monitors (IEM):
In Ear Monitors (IEM) also known as Ear Canal Headphones (ECH's). These earphones are placed into the ear canal and effectively seal your ear with their small rubberised ear-tip sleeve (can also come with various tips). They are small, lightweight and very portable.

Noise cancelling headphones:
Noise cancelling headphones reduce the perceived noise from outside with the clever use of small microphones located inside the earpiece and active electronics within the headset. The basic principle is that the noise signal for the outside world is inverted and then summed with the signal from the audio source. The result is that the ambient noise from outside is effectively cancelled out, which lets you enjoy your music.

Open back headphones:
Open back headphones (sometimes referred to as vented) are designed to allow sound out through the back of the earcup. This design gives a character to the sound that is often described as having an open soundstage, or natural. One reason for this is that there are less reflections than a closed back (or sealed) design.

Supra aural:
Supra aural headphones have pads that sit on top of the ears, rather than around them.

NOISE CANCELLATION DOES NOT EQUAL TO NOISE ISOLATION, get the facts straight:
Noise cancellation works by cancelling out constant noise from outside surroundings, like machine sound or motor sound, or jet plane turbine sound, you will still hear people talking, baby crying, car passing by, people beside you blasting music while break dancing, a couple quarreling etc. Noise isolation is for silence from surrounding sound regardless what it is.

Noise cancellation is a premium priced technology, and the reason behind it is it uses to external mic for left and right to obtain the constant noise, and the headphone produces a counter noise wave to cancel out the noise, so you don't hear machine sounds. BOSE claimed to be the first to create NC headphones, so they might get patent fee from it, who knows.. Expect something around RM1k for a NC headphone
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post May 6 2013, 06:24 PM

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Pictorial guide to earphone and headphone types
On-Ear
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Over ear / around the ear / full size / circumaural
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Noise Canceling Headphones
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IEM
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Universal CIEM
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open back headphone
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closed back headphone
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post May 11 2013, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ May 11 2013, 08:02 PM)
My current Phonak 132 is starting to show some issues. Might need to get a new one soon.

Your rig: iPhone 4s, iMac through ordnance .25 amp
What type of usage : Music
File format used in your source: mp3, flac
Genre of music you listen to: Rock/ Pop/ Ambient/ OST
Headphone/ earphone type: Something with similar or better clarity, accuracy and smoothness then the Phonak 132 with better bass. The Phonak 132 are really enjoyable and I'm not a basshead, but they really isn't any bass on them unless amped.
Other requirements: Remote/mic would be good. A 2 years warranty or more would be good.

Budget : Around Rm1000
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get yourself a RE-400 from HiFiMan which has been getting good grades at price:sound quality
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post May 13 2013, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(jimcarrey @ May 12 2013, 12:17 AM)
Allo all,

I'm looking for this dual stereo bluetooth headphone (sorry, no familiar with the tech. terms) for my idevices.

You know something like the Jabra Sport and the Plantronic's Backbeat.

Any sub MYR200+/- brand anyone can recommend?

Thanks
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could not think of any in this range, bluetooth devices are expensive and sound quality are so so only
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post May 19 2013, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ May 19 2013, 12:20 PM)
Hi I'm looking for earphone mainly for pc n android devices.

Genre would cover almost everything lol.

Would love to have emphasis on clarity n noise isolation

Budget around +/- rm500

Pls Pls recommend me thx !!
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can consider HiFiMan RE-400, HiFiMan normally don't come out with stuff, but once they come out, they came to kill the competitors (makes a statement out LOUD)
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post May 21 2013, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(un_id @ May 20 2013, 01:23 PM)
http://www.head-fi.org/t/653370/review-hif...e-new-reference

interesting review of Hifiman RE400, rated 5/5 by Cleios!

any comment on it, sifus here? Jaben sells this?
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jaben dont have, but i bought it off from head-direct without even thinking of Pro : Con ratio
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post May 21 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(un_id @ May 21 2013, 01:06 PM)
i am very interested to buy as well.. but no local seller?  cry.gif
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get from head-direct
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post May 21 2013, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(un_id @ May 21 2013, 02:31 PM)
how is your experience on the RE400? mind to give some impression? worth the $99 spent?
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reaching me maybe today or tomorrow, but i seriously didnt consider long to get it

i asked my "audiophile partner" mrsu and he recommend it, so i went ahead,

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post May 22 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(beh0211 @ May 21 2013, 11:03 PM)
Your rig: nexus4, macbook pro (thinking of buying hippo biscuit)
Type of usage: Music only
Format: 320k mp3
Genre: K-pop / vocal / slow kind of musics
Type of earphone: IEM, prefer over the ear (sleep-wearing)
Budget: <500

I'm not a basshead but im a midhead. tongue.gif currently eyeing on shure se215/ hippo pro one??
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you can also try beyerdynamic xp3
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post May 30 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(siles1991 @ May 30 2013, 12:57 AM)
Anyone can give some advice on the HE-400? Like whats good about it and whats bad about it I want more than just reviews I want consumer opinions please would it be a good upgrade from my AD900X? HE-400 or W1000X?

Or any recommendations for something close to shure se535 in form of a full size headphone? Smooth crisp highs which aren't too bright and that beautiful lush and forward mids which has barely any sibilance. I really want to find a headphone which can give me this.
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HE-400 review in my site
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post Jun 1 2013, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jun 1 2013, 07:41 PM)
I've never owned over-ear headphones, looking for a pair now, for home and personal use.

Most important are

(i) Comfort  (ii) Sound quality  (iii) Noise isolation

while I don't want wireless or active noise cancelling (anything that needs batteries/charging).

Within budget of RM300-RM700

Some that caught my eye are

Audio Technica ATH M50

AKG K 240 MK II

Audio Technica ES700

I have Soundsticks II for normal use, now want some headphones cos the ultimate ear earphones getting uncomfortable

Normally listen to all contemporary genres, top 40, dance, pop, R&B, a bit of acoustic

Going to check some out at the airport (overseas) when I stop by, if can test I would probably just test whatever then buy.

Anything to look out for in case they don't have testing? I figure buying here in Australia is cheaper than in KL
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perhaps you can try the beyerdynamic headphones, they are comfortable,isolates well, and sings well on modern music
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post Jun 1 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jun 1 2013, 08:20 PM)
Price range, model pls?
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dt440 should be in your price range, then comes dt770,880,990
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post Jun 2 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(neozlee @ Jun 2 2013, 04:04 PM)
M50 has resistance of 38 ohm while the COP has only 16 ohms..
to give you how it compares to an IEM (beyer XP 3) which has only 16 ohms..
COP is easier to drive in that sense..
unless u are aiming for DT770 pros which has 32, 80 and 250 ohms..
if that's the case, u need an amp to drive it to have larger amplitude sound wave.. (except for the LE 32 ohms)
for m50 is recommended to get a portable amp like fiio e11 or a dac (fiio e10) to gain the best sound quality for the headphones =)
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dont forget the 600 ohms
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post Jun 8 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jun 8 2013, 07:12 PM)
ATH M50 vs Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro?

I think I might be able to get the COP for RM600.
Not sure how much for the ATH M50.

Uses: Laptop and Ipod nano 7

Music: most genres including top 40, dance, pop, alternative, sometimes softer folk stuff or Asian music

Also sometimes for TV or Movies, but I have Harman Kardon Sounsticks ii for that, or big music listening. Bass from that thing is not a problem, the headphones are for blocking out sound (annoying neighbours etc) and still being able to listen to any kind of music comfortably and clearly.
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COP has variable bass port, so you can set bass and clarity level for each usage, much more flexible than fixed sound M50
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post Jun 8 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jun 8 2013, 08:35 PM)
I hate that shipping is gonna take ages and I can't get it now sad.gif(
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but then think of these as factors:
1. customise look
2. can add microphone by changing cable only
3. change sound by adjusting port
4. changing earpads easily
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post Jun 9 2013, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Jun 9 2013, 07:15 PM)
W5000 is much cheaper than W3000ANV ...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Tq  notworthy.gif
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headphone is one thing, think of the cost for amplification while at it, it will give you headaches for years to come
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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Jun 9 2013, 07:26 PM)
i think the yamamoto ha-02 is able to drive them quite desirably  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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din read he has that, lol
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post Jun 10 2013, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Jun 10 2013, 08:25 AM)
Wahhh .. need to purchase high end amp which is quite big and heavy?  I'm thinking of using the headphone in the office ... so, portability is needed ..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

And the price of good amp is over > RM 1000

does this mean with the budget that I have, I should go back to A2000X as it doesn't need a good amp?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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for portable power amp, you can try RSA amps, they carry some good ones, but of course not as good as a desktop setup
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post Jun 10 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Jun 10 2013, 09:51 AM)
Just ordered Beyer COP @ RM590!

Got velour earpads for them.
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just as what i am having now, cop on velour

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