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post May 31 2013, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(siles1991 @ May 30 2013, 10:31 PM)
sounds like everything I ever wanted god how i wish I could test it
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Sometimes it's all about luck when buying items, that's how I got my HE-500 flex.gif and proud of it. Heck it's even better than T1 imho
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post Jun 1 2013, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Jun 1 2013, 06:58 PM)
Noted for the M50s.

I'm currently eyeing A2000X. There are also T70P and Denon HD-600 with additional topup. Quite hard to choose as there's no clear winner ...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Grado is more towards open back right?  hmm.gif

Btw, I'll invest on AMP which will be less than RM 300 in the near future
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Grado is not towards open back, it is a fully open back set of headphones. It depends on what kind of sound you're looking for, if you're leaning more towards rock,metal or that kind of genre, Grado would be your best.

Haven't had much good experience with AT's cans, even with their Woody series, just can't seem to appreciate their tuning, but that's just me.

If i were you, try to find a balance between a price for headphones and amp. You wouldn't want to spend good money on expensive cans to find out you're lacking the capability to drive to its fullest.
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post Jun 1 2013, 10:04 PM

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Hmm, those choices you listed should be fine but however do note HD600 is also an opened back headphones
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post Jun 9 2013, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Jun 8 2013, 11:55 PM)
How about without amp for the next 6 months ... I'm go all out this time ... no moneh for a number of months sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif 

Can it still perform?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Won't be optimal though, got any DAC or amp in mind?
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post Jul 5 2013, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(RowanPaladin @ Jul 5 2013, 12:38 PM)
Will do. Will probably get the impressions done this weekend.
4-Flat Kaedes look amazing. I've tried the Sui, but I've been told that Keades just does everything better. Waiting to see how Donguri sounds.
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Best to check what the manufacturer wants as different company have different requirements.

For cosmic ears, best to print the instruction as per their website and give it to the audiologist so they will know what to do

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We need a full ear impression for our customers, including the crus of the helix, tragus and aniti-tragus.

The impressions must be taken past the second bend of the ear canal.
The impressions must fill the whole ear.
The impressions must be made with a high-viscosity silicone impression material.
Cotton dams are preferred.
An open mouth impression using a bite block is preferred.


Source : Cosmic Ears

Even for JH Audio has some slight variation to Cosmic Ears so better to play on the safe side thumbup.gif
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post Aug 2 2013, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Aug 2 2013, 09:57 PM)
I see there are 2 variants, 32ohm and 250ohm. I'm guessing a phone can't drive the 250ohms well sweat.gif
Yup, from Penang. It's very kind of you but I already had a listen at Jaben along with the Momentum, both are fantastic! biggrin.gif
I feel secure with PC modding, headphone modding not so much. Worry I'll kill the headphone in the process laugh.gif I did check out the Mad Dog, $299 but can't audition here sad.gif
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Tyll from Innerfidelity has an interesting article in regards to the variants of the DT880 32/250/600 ohm versions and ultimately suggests that the 32ohm version is the weakest among the lot.

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Beyerdynamic DT 880 32 ohm
While I found this headphone to be driven to satisfactory levels from portable devices, I felt the sound quality was degraded (likely by the poor damping factor) to the point that the price/performance ratio was poor. Essentially, you are not going to get DT 880-like performance from this pairing. I suggest that if you are looking for a portable headphone, the DT 880 32 ohm is a poor choice from a sound quality perspective. Additionally, you should be looking for a sealed design for portable use so that you will get some isolation from outside noise. I do not recommend this headphone.

Alternatives at or below this price would include: Denon AH-D2000 ($349; fast sounding); Shure SRH840 ($250; warm sounding); Audio Technica ATH-M50 ($199; slightly edgy but good otherwise); and the Skullcandy Roc Nation Aviator ($149; great sound, poor isolation).


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Perhaps you can try considering the Sennheiser Momentum, AKG K550, UE 6000/9000. YMMV

UE6000/9000
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post Aug 13 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Aug 13 2013, 10:53 PM)
If you do understand the economics of business, you will understand why there is such a wide discrepancy. 

Basically, USA is still the biggest consumer of electronics in the world with Amazon the biggest retailer of electronics in the world.  With the large volume in hand, they get priority on getting new models, much better discount and volume shipping rates.

The costing difference between an USA distributor's and Malaysia distributor's costing may vary up to 40%.  On top of it, for Malaysia, headphones attracts 5% duty and 10% sales tax, amplifier 15% duty and 10% sales tax, cables 40% duty and 10% sales tax.
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Don't remind of the cables tax, I remember my ALO Audio Reference 16 cable got taxed heavily but not as high as 40% and the tariff got reclassified different from what ALO described in the commercial invoice for god knows what reason
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post Dec 30 2013, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Dec 30 2013, 02:01 AM)
Guys just a curiouscity,

if change HD 650 to HD 800 isit big improve or directly to Audeze LCD 2?
which has better improvement?

does it sound really different from AUdeze and Sennheiser?
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Most folks at head-fi seem to agree that the natural path of upgrade from HD 650 is the Audeze LCD-2 as they bear somewhat similar characteristics (dark with some emphasis on bass and LCD-2 is known for its bass slam).

Having owned the LCD-2 previously, bear in mind you'll be sacrificing some soundstage quality what the HD 650 offers but gain alot in the bass regions as their frequency response chart is somewhat flat from 10hz until 1K hz.

HD800 on the other hand is somewhat different as its more analytical in nature and many people use it as a reference rig. As most would agree, the HD800 excels in the soundstage and imaging department as their soundstage is similar or even better than what Stax SR-009 offers.

In terms of sound difference, I would personally say the HD800 and LCD-2 opposite of each other whereas the first one being bright and the latter dark. If you plan to try the LCD-2, you may to contacts its authorised distributor in the region, they are quite helpful and friendly.
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post Dec 30 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Dec 30 2013, 10:23 AM)
Hmm that mean there are no mean for me to get another upgrade. i like warm and bass sounding. I tested HD 800 in Singapore with their full ifi range(including itube) definitely tone down the brightness. and its more comfortable with tubes. I tested Benyerdynamic Flagship, T1, i tell u i straight throw away.. lol even with tubes amp

Havent got the changes to test Audeze LCd 2 and LCD 3
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Tried the HD700 few months prior to buying my HD800, it's kinda a hit and miss whether you like it or not. I felt like it lacks character and trying to resemble the HD800 but couldn't do so. I personally feel the HD700 was something more of a filler than Sennheiser put in place between the HD650 and HD800 in order to appease certain folks (but that's just me).

As for HD800, their sound signature being analytical also mean that it is very unforgiving on your source as any flaws will be revealed and also the HD800 has a reputation for being amp finicky and I'm not sure if the ifi series will do any justice to it.

The T1 is pretty decent for its price but there's a certain treble peak I can't tolerate myself blush.gif

But yea, do give the LCD2/3 a try, if you prefer the HD650 then it should be closer to LCD2 than LCD3
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post Jan 8 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Jan 8 2014, 04:05 PM)
HiFiman very hard to find in SG...
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Hifiman, you can try contacting at David & Associates instead
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post Feb 11 2014, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(widget @ Feb 10 2014, 11:24 PM)
If you want relax and neutral, I don't think Senn IE800 fits your bill.

I would suggest FitEar TG!334, which should cost you about RM5k -ish.
I had this earphone for almost 6 months but had to sell it to part finance for my custom.
It has relaxing sound signature and it excels for vocals, esp. female vocal.
They are not what you call neutral though due to the elevated mids.
The bass can go very deep, though not hard hitting as IE800 or Shure SE846.
I do find the high frequency a bit roll-off, and some users will try to overcome this weakness by using silver or silver-plated cable.
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+1 on FitEar TG!334, they have one the best mids for vocals around for IEMs and I dare say even better than most CIEM in this category.

If you're looking for something laid back, you can try considering Shure SE846 as IE800 comes a little too bassy (bloated imo), but of course YMMV.
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post Feb 26 2014, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ Feb 26 2014, 11:43 AM)
se535 is kinda insufficient to me now after I listen to Pandora ._. (I had released the demons from the box and got poisoned)
So, is AK100 a good player?? or should I invest on another player like DX50? AK120 is way off my budget except I dont buy AK100 and Pandora, then I'll have enuf moneh for it...
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Unless you're talking about the AK100 mk2 then yes maybe, I would avoid using the first version on low impedance BA/dynamic drivers due to 22ohm output impedance.

Bear in mind that FAD Hope VI sensitivity is very efficient and has very low impedance for a headphone so any increments in volume is likely to result in larger volume gain.

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post Feb 27 2014, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ Feb 27 2014, 08:28 AM)
I am gonna use them in school... Idk which is better lol.. Wanma grt both.. But my budget is limited to 5k. My player is gonna be my phone, xperia z1. Or I should get AK100?
I prefer a wide soundstage and a more natural sounding and details... Please Give me a recommendation.. Thankiew
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Unforunately you cant really compare headphones to CIEM as both are coherently different where CIEM/IEM weaknesses is still soundstaging while headphones excel in that area.

For school usage, assuming you'll be at the library place I guess both would suit your purposes but I wouldn't want to walk with Hope VI due to its weight (yes they are heavy and 100g shy off your typical planar magnetic).

From what you describe where you prefered FAD Hope VI, you seem to prefer coloured sound with some bass slam and forward mids.

There are also other brands to consdier beside A&K when it comes to portable players (they do look however) such as ibasso or hifiman (HM801 & HM901)
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QUOTE(eugenelimys @ Feb 27 2014, 10:12 AM)
Yea Yea... XD
Weight doesnt matter actually smile.gif and I have not reavhed the level of understanding of highs mids and lows.. XD still dont know muvh abt music categories...
Hm.. I will try to find a good playrr then xD
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Haha just takes time to understand, but this link should help you understand sound frequency of instruments and vocal voices

http://www.head-fi.org/a/frequency-response-of-headphones
http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary

Too many people often describe their headphones/speakers as neutral which is often misleading without comparing to others, so its safer to based on what you listen to draw a benchmark smile.gif
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post May 15 2014, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Stefan How @ May 15 2014, 07:00 PM)
Wow, at least i can take in more than half of the info,Thx man.  notworthy.gif  So basically,DAC is something like a processor in the dev that convert those digital audio file to sound wave(Analog) right? While amp,is a device,use to push more current or voltage for those higher impedance headphone to shine . Do they need amp to sound the best? Is amp something like control the audio loudness,Bass,treble and stuff like that? So lower impedance headphone dun really need the aid of amp?  rclxub.gif
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An amp as it is, is too amplify a signal, period. And yes, an amp purpose is able to push out in terms of watts, some amp are capable to push out more voltage into higher impedances while some don't. It all depends on how the manufacturer designs it. This is back to basic physics where

W = A * V

where W = watt, A = ampere and V = voltage

Not all products need an amp to shine as some are tuned and design to specifically work with internal amps from your portable devices like your iPad, iPhone, smartphones,tablets, PC's, etc

Often people misread thinking that low impedance don't need an amp where they should also look at the manufacturer's specification of sensitivity as it shows an indication of how much decibel of sound it can produce at 1mW of power

Take a look at the following examples:

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Beyedynamic T1

Transducer type . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dynamic
Operating principle. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Semi-open
Frequency response . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 - 50,000 Hz
Impedance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600 Ω
Nominal SPL . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 102 dB (1 mW / 500 Hz)


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Hifiman HE-6

Frequency Response: 8 to 65 KHz
Impedance: 50 Ohm
Efficiency: 83.5 DB
Weight: 502 g


To the uninformed, most would think that the T1 would need an amp to drive it optimally due to its 600 ohm nominal impedance while the HE-6 with its 50 ohm do not need one.

This is where they are wrong as the efficiency of 83.5 is much lower than the T1's sensitivity of 102 db. The Hifiman HE-6 is the one that requires even more power in terms of power compared to the T1
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post May 15 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Stefan How @ May 15 2014, 09:03 PM)
How do u get the watt? I mean voltage is the impedance or ampere? Coz from what i know is that ohm thingy is like internal electrical resistant. But most manufacturer doest come out the watt and ampere needed to powered their product.

So basically its something like this?

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Jvc Ha S500
Freq respond:8hz-25000hz
Impedance:32Ω
Handling capacity:1000mw (IEC)


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Yamaha EPH 100
Driver Type:Dynamic, Closed
Driver Unit :Φ6 mm (1/4”)
Impedance:16 ohms
Sound Pressure Level:104 dB ±3 dB
Frequency Response: 20 Hz – 20 kHz
Weight (with Cable):13.5 g (0.46 oz)

i know its stupid to compare an on ear headphone to an IEM,as that is wat i own..
So the one that need amp was the yamaha? Please correct me if im wrong  sweat.gif
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The Yamaha HA S500 has 106 db/1mW and EPH 100 has 104db +- 3db at 1mW (I'm guessing), they are both extremely sensitive to when it is fed 1mW of power and produces enough volume at 1mW. Anything that is >90db at 1mW is generally quite loud and prolong loud volume is dangerous to people unless you dont mind developing tinnitus and going deaf.

Just take this as a hint, most and I really mean most mass consumer grade products typically don't need an amp as they are efficient as it is playing directly from your portable devices already.

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post May 20 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 20 2014, 10:56 PM)
i was reading the meaning sound stage of the headphone...

so IF sound stage is large, what will the genre of the headphone will be? if narrow sound stage??

EG: more bass? more mid? lesser noise isolation:??
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Neither, sound stage does not define what genre or sound signature of a particular loud speaker/headphone. You can have something with a wide soundstage with all bass,mids, highs properly tuned but can also have wide sound stage with terrible bass,mids, highs.

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Soundstage - The area between two speakers that appears to the listener to be occupied by sonic images. Like a real stage, a soundstage should have width, depth, and height.



If you're still unsure, try testing from

https://www.goldenears.philips.com/en/challenge.html#

under spaciousness (stereo width), it should roughly give you an indication what is sound stage
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post May 20 2014, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 20 2014, 11:48 PM)
ya that is what i read.
i mean if headphone properties is narrow sound stage, what characteristic it usually is?
if wide?

lets say like a "sport car, normally body is very low" those characteristic i want to know  unsure.gif
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Narrow? Basically its like someone is playing instruments or singing in a small room, while wide sound stage is like listening in a concert if that's what you're looking for.

It's basically how you perceive how sound is coming from, normally speakers tend to project a wide sound stage while headphones/earphones are inherently smaller compared to speakers.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jun 4 2014, 03:49 PM)
i have a question,

i have a budget to go for a flagship (well a new one), its either headphones or IEM.

im a huge senn fan, so im thinking of a HD800, on the other hand im contemplating if i should get/upgrade my IEM to a top of the line CIEM.

which is more worth it, im not really bothered about portability juts want better sound quality
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QUOTE(widget @ Jun 4 2014, 04:45 PM)
Like what E1 - AKG posted, speaker > headphone > earphone.

But speaker rigs you need to consider room acoustic also to get it right.
For HD800, source matching is another headache.
Some people spend more than 2 to 3 times the cost of HD800 itself on an amplifier and cables to get the synergy that they are looking for.

So the easiest might be CIEM, but bear in mind that CIEM has low resale value, so audition as many as you can before you commit
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HD800 alone with poor amp/source matching will be a nightmare if you don't get it right. And I would personally advice you steer clear of the HD800 if you don't have the budget for an amp to pair with it. Even the DNA Stratus I ordered, is about exactly twice the price on the HD800. There are a few solid state amps within $1000 or less that is worth considering but it is even difficult as no one in Malaysia carries them for testing purposes.

For a less finicky system pairing, Audeze's LCD-2/X would be an alternative as they are on "easier" side to pair an amp without being too picky like the HD800
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QUOTE(psychoactive @ Aug 18 2014, 08:08 PM)
Talk about DAC/AMP upgrade for HD600... plenty of possibilities  blush.gif
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