Hi all, I am a plaster ceiling contractor, planning on servicing all LYN members here

My rates for plaster ceiling are as below:

Flat board RM 2.30 per square ft
Using 9mm board and thick steel

L-box per foot run RM 9.50
Light through per foot run RM 11.50
Curtains Pelmet RM 11.50
Cornice per foot run RM 3.90
Manhole RM 55
Fan Hooks RM 30
Light Opening Normally free of charge

My rates i believe is the cheapest in LYN but please do not remember me because of my pricing

My workman-ship is guaranteed using local chinese sifus...
If you have drawings the more the better
If you want drawing services also can be arranged for a minimal fee

Payment method
Pay only for material as downpayment (Fair method)
Pay when you're satisfied with my work

Call me:

Weng 0162150898 for free assessment visit
No obligations

This post has been edited by weng98: Jun 30 2013, 07:18 AM

may i know what is the minimum height to install plaster ceiling?

and wat's the minimum height to installed ceiling fan?

Any pic of workdone?

are we talking about minimum ceiling height from slab to ceiling or from floor to ceiling?

if the former then it would depends on the down lights that you are installing
eg: 6" square downlights would need an allowance of at least 5 inches from slab to be properly installed
however some LEDS would require less

if the latter den i would say at least 8 ft from floor however this is depending on site situation
eg: need to conceal beams especially for condos..
steps or recesses for side only light through designs

the minimum height for installing a fan is also depending on where the fan is
eg: if at living area at least 8ft
if on top of dining table can go a little bit lower to 7 and a half ft



some photos of my current site at Sentul Taman Pelangi

pic 1 is light through design
pic 2 is flat board with cornice
pic 3 is light through design with led lights effect.. photo is unfinished work but had since been completed

thanks all for inquiries and questions.. do call me for some serious chats about your reno works..

This post has been edited by weng98: Jun 15 2013, 07:53 AM


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Hi, do the price include wiring for downlight and light through?

Do you have calculate minimum installation?

unfortunately no, however if you need these services it can be arranged.. thanks

yes sometimes minimum installation do apply.. if less thank 800 sq ft add RM 300
this is to cover transportation and miscellaneous charges

Where is your location? Any samples of photos you can share?

we are here in the klang valley..

What about painting for the plaster ceiling?

Light trough - how do u calculate the length?

Painting for plaster ceiling using Maxilite paint is rm 0.50 per sq ft

Light trough is measured by per feet run

hope this answer your question.. if not please call me.. thanks

Thanks, very helpful.

I only plan to do plaster ceiling for the living/dining room and master bedroom only. Probably less than 400 sf altogether...

Can you quote me base on my measurement in attachment. Thanks





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Do u have email....mayb u can gif me a quote...

hi you can contact me on wengsun0898@gmail.com, thanks
petlu28 and lizzie.. replied through pm thanks..

currently am working on a few lowyat netizens home..will update later with photos.. thank you all...

This post has been edited by weng98: Jun 11 2013, 09:59 PM

Do you do wiring and gypsum board too? I'm looking for contractor when I get the key for my condo

yes can do... let me know when you're ready yah.. thanks

Will let you know one i get the key. Should be in August. Just wanna do gypsum board
for all bedrooms and plaster ceiling for Living and dining + wiring. How your charges
for gypsum board?

Weng98, can you pm ur contact? I would like to do plaster ceiling

i couldn't get through by calling the number in the few attemps, so i requested here.
what's your problem?!
anything to do with you?

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[quote=cheer83,Jun 15 2013, 09:25 PM]
i couldn't get through by calling the number in the few attemps, so i requested here.

hi sorry about this.. must've been phone line problem.. please contact me again... thanks yah!!

Just got my house key; would like to look for quotation for my condo.. Jln Puchong/Old Klang road area

> L Box Plaster Ceiling at Dry Kitchen Area:-
> Minimal Plaster Ceiling to conceal some of the beam area
> Aircon wiring
> Shower Screen

PM me

This post has been edited by desmondloke: Jun 17 2013, 10:13 AM

hi do you do partition too

I wanna cover the beam above my stove by using ceiling. Is there any special material instead the common gypsum board?
Wanna do partition and plaster ceiling in kitchen area, very small project, pls pm if u r interested.

Weng98, What is the charges for downlight hole opening?

RM 4..

few homes has already been completed.. waiting for painting to go up and will post some photos real soon...thanks for all the inquiries..
Update:
our pv16 workmanship.. light through and pelmet designs all through living area and bedrooms and painting of ceiling ... thank you Yvonne Lim..
more photos coming soon...

This post has been edited by weng98: Jun 27 2013, 07:30 AM


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Special thanks to all LYN Members for the month of July.. Free Maxilite Painting works on all ceiling.. (Condos only) when you engage us.. Thank you..

This post has been edited by weng98: Jun 27 2013, 07:45 AM

designs are best based on your furniture arrangement and the feel that you want to create for your home... we work to your requirements...

This post has been edited by weng98: Jun 27 2013, 06:03 PM

Coming up Laman Baiduri in Subang Jaya.. will post all photos of work done at this unit...
ceiling works completed at 18/7/2013.. thank you Mr Chin... it has been a pleasure working with you

This post has been edited by weng98: Jul 19 2013, 05:05 AM


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hopefully can get key this month....

just wanna add some conditions to our ceiling works..
we take every precaution to avoid hitting on wirings when we anchor nails to the ceiling slab.. should you just engage us
to do only ceiling works and wiring are hit.. please have your wire men to rectify, we do not take responsibility to rectify wiring works..

However if you do engage us to do ceiling and wiring works.. we are obliged to rectify it at our own cost (fair method)

coming up Kinrara Mas in Puchong and Raintree in Batu Caves

This post has been edited by weng98: Jul 19 2013, 05:11 AM

Dear Forumer,
Please becareful when you do business with Mr Weng, i engaged MR Weng to do plaster ceiling last month.

there are 3 problems that i encounter from him.

1) His workers will never take care of your house. My house is full of legs and hand print on the wall from his workers.
Why cant you take care of the owner house? It need to repaint the wall. A picture will means a thousand words. i will upload here.
So when you engage him, make sure you are ready to repaint the wall. It a cost for you to repaint the wall.


2) When his workers came to work, Please ask him prepape his own stuffs instead of using another contractors items and caused problem when the items that been borrowed were not returned.It happened and there were an argue between my other contractor with him.
What professional jobs that require to borrow woods from other contractors? Dont you dont have your own stuffs when you know you are require for your work to be done? For a simple reason, to save the cost of buying.End up i have to pay extra RM50 for the woods that was taken by him and he denied it.

3) They do not take precaution when they anchor the nails to the ceiling slab. My wire man already informed to be careful when anchor the nails, but his workers does not bother about it.My house wiring were nails by his workers and he doesn't seem to responsible on it. He said i should get my wire man to rectify it. Why is the problem that caused by this Mr.Weng guys become my problem.
He said he will come over and have a look. Never believed, if you have paid fully to him. Even he miss out two downlight hole that stated. He asked my wireman to do it. Another cost to me,right?

End up,i asked my wire man to rewire 4 plug point (Power Point). It caused me RM200 and another RM150 for the hacking and conceal the wire. Why should i spend the money for this repair? In the first place, Mr Weng said he is a professional in this plaster ceiling. When i ask for a compensation for the damaged, He said as a token of appreciation ,he willing to pay half of it. Why the problem that caused by you and i have to pay half of it.The repair works caused RM350 in total. He should have pay for it and he gave me alot of excused.

The words that make me anger were," Which nails that hit the wiring" . Why the problem that caused by him , i have to solve it.
It is a cost to me and give me more trouble to rehack the wall and conseal the wire

Lastly , i said i will put a bad comment on his service in low yat forum in order the people will be aware of the service that he gave me.I got a threatening by him , "Do not go overboard", " You should be responsible for your action" , "i will make a visit to your house" .
What does this means, A Gangster threatening? I do not a a peace of mind after engage his service.

I spend 2 hours in the police station just to make a report on his threatening words. Will he harm me or not, im not sure. A police report has been made. So Forumer, you decide if you ok to engage his plaster ceiling service? A very bad experience from me so far.

Picture will be more accurate for you all to judge.

Mr Willie, please be mindful about your words here..

please explain to me how to do plaster ceiling works without repainting of walls.. (pls see my photos above of work done) your house was not painted at the time when you engaged us. and you even requested me to quote you for painting works for your whole house
you have repeatedly asked for discounts and i have obliged to your request.. even when ceiling works i earn 30 cents per sq ft only..
even when you wanted extra works to be done at your garage you wanted discounts again and i obliged.. and i have to pay for transport again

yes, my workers borrowed some woods from your wet works contractor and we have returned it.. upon your request i have called the contractor
and asked him to charge me should i have misplaced the woods (apparently 7pcs of 2x4 planks) out of courtesy but your contractor said its ok. so i did not followed up further on this..

like i said before, we take all precautions when anchoring nails, but because we are plaster ceiling contractor we do not repair wiring works, it is up to the owner
to have his wire men to rectify should there is nails that hit the wires. and apparently it is not lighting wires???????? yes out of courtesy i have offered mr willie half of his requested amount as a token of appreciation for his works but he did not agree. should i just pay whatever he request without bills or agreeing to pay in the first place...without even looking at the problem?? we completed his house on the 26th of june and wiring works are only done now????

mr willie said he wanna make bad comments about me here and i said go ahead but don't go overboard.. and be responsible for whatever you said..
he twisted his words here.. i had mentioned that i will visit his house to repair my ceiling works if there's any repair works caused by this matter. he even asked me whether it was to repair my defects.. and i answered i will if its my work.. but apparently mr willie has again twisted his words and said i am gangster and wanna cause harm to him...
i think i will make a police report against him for this..
(please see attached screenshot)




contractors here in lowyat.. please be aware doing business with mr willie,
even his own contractors doesn't wanna do his ceiling and painting works..
he just wanna conveniently destroy me here.. and if it does so, i am fine by it but i stand by my principal of work ethic and regulations

This post has been edited by weng98: Jul 20 2013, 07:26 AM

Mr Wilie Low,

This is just so low of you.. sorry no pun intended.. in my opinion, we have serviced you so well.. let me recap

1-your wife had requested for plaster ceiling works at your garage, and i quoted you extra charges due to transportation again, initially you decided not to do it first and said should you decided to do it later you would compensate for the transportation. Later you wanted it done but decided that i should have to pay for it. Cost of transportation RM 100

2-you had complained about air cond pelmet not straight, i checked for you and found out that your complained was because it was not centered of the wall.. we found out that the problem was because your air cond piping was out of position.. we had discussed with your wife and your wife agreed but requested us to make it a little bigger to compensate, we had done so without any charges to you. Cost of workmanship and materials RM 150

3-you had wanted to conceal a piping due to your extension works at upper living room. You did not requested for it earlier but decided that i should do it for you without any cost. i had obliged to your request.. Cost of material and Labour 100

4-i had provided lighting holes services foc for all my customers here in LYN, i might have missed out on two downlights, On completion of work, both your wife and your good self had visited the house and had taken photos of all our work. we had completed on the 25th of June and you had promptly paid us on the 26th..

5- you said we had used your contractors wood during the course of our work there, yes, this is to speed up the process of your work.. is this unfair?
i had called your contractor and insists that i wanna pay for the "missing" planks even though i know my workers so well that they will not take a few planks home.. your contractor said it was ok..we even had a chat about his works and your good self too then.. changes after changes after changes.. your contractor even advised our workers to quickly complete the work there and get paid.. this owner is so low he said.. changes but did not want to pay for it.. i can provide his phone number to any here who request for it so that you will know Mr Willie Low's attitude and problem.

6- You twisted my words in order to undermine me here due to your frustration of me not wanting to pay the full amount for the wiring faults.. which by the way you only request me to pay after the work is done..without any due notice and without any agreement on my part. i had even offered you half of the amount due to your promptness in paying us.. ((now would he be paying me promptly if he was not satisfied with my work?))..

7- You had repeatedly twisted my words and posted a threatening thread with my full name and plaster ceiling words in order to undermine me in front of my potential clients and had even made a precautionary police report with the intention of giving me grievances as a revenge for not paying you the costs of wiring faults, which i did not know of and did not agree to pay for.. and i believe Mr Willie would not post this thread should ive paid him..

Let me just say this.. owner with money does not necessary justify that they have the rights in all situation, the contractor is always wrong.. well if this so.. then god help all of us contractors.. i wanna change job already.. be an owner and be always right, how wonderful is that.. when i see another new contractor trying to do an honest job and start off in this world, i will just press him down to the bone and make him bear for it when i feel like he is wrong or wants him to be in the wrong.. thumbs down if you're an owner here and feels like Mr Willie Low low has done the right thing here..

Frankly i would not even request him to take this thread down so that every one here can see how Mr Willie is as a professional, as a house owner and as a person.. i am sure forumers here can decide if i had acted unprofessionally, threatening, without courtesy and without reasoning..


i had since the opening of my thread here in LYN had completed
Metropolitan Square condo
Pv16 Jalan Genting Kelang
Jade Hills Kajang
Pelangi Kota Damansara
Laman Baiduri Subang Jaya

i have pending works at
Raintree Batu Caves
Kinraramas Puchong
Koi KInrara
Atmosfera Kinrara

i had not have a single complain from my customer..as i believed we had serviced our customers well and acted within the boundaries of our scope of work..
any owners here should you want any references i can give contacts and i believe they would happily give you comments on my work..

This post has been edited by weng98: Jul 21 2013, 08:39 AM

Your price is fair. My main con quote me higher than this but I cannot change contractor now...

Its ok.. next house yah...

Dear Mr. Weng,

Let me answer all your questions.

1) I agree that my house need to repaint and I did ask quotations from you.Does that means you can leave those hands and foot prints all over my wall?
2) I did ask for discount when I engage you as my plaster ceiling contractor. My first quotation that I got from you is RM3600 included the car porch.

How much did I pay you in total? RM3400 right include the car poach. RM200 discount from RM3600 is actually less then 6% discount. As a customer, it is very common to ask for discount. I decided to do my car poach on the same day and all your materials didn’t come yet.

3) You have misunderstood me. I need to repaint the house before install the lighting. I found out the problem that the main power is tripping.

4) I have asked you to come and rectify the problem but keep on dragging. A picture will means a thousand words. I will attached the what app conversation for the fellow lowyat to decide and judge

5) On the matter of choosing the right contractor, it is my choice of choosing. As a customer I have the right of choosing the best contractor with the best price. Too bad I make the wrong choice of choosing you as my plaster ceiling contractor. I agree your price is cheap but at the end is the most expensive and most troublesome contractor that I have.

6) It a very common price for 4 plugs point to be loop at a cost of RM50 each. Hacking and patching walls cost of RM150. I’m not asking for thousand or so. I just want a responsible contractor. Please be a Man.


As a customer and LowYat members, I have the right to tell and say to inform my fellow members on my experience with bad contractor. So fellow Low Yat members, do think twice on this contractor.

Mr Willie, thank you for your business and your kind comments..

This post has been edited by weng98: Jul 22 2013, 03:16 AM

Quote from jetschin


I have been following this thread initiated by willielow, and then subsequently responded by Mr Weng, the sub-contractor for his plaster ceiling works.
I am the owner of that mentioned condo unit in Laman Baiduri, Subang Jaya, and I have also engaged Mr Weng to do my plaster ceiling works at about this same time.

His quote was quite detailed, with estimated quantities and unit rates. As a professional engineer, I am pleased with his detailed quotation. Mr Weng has just completed the plaster ceiling works for my condo. To put it briefly, his workmanship is good, I would say very good. I have no complaints, whatsoever. He has been accommodating too with changes here and there. I think I like his recommendation for my living room plaster ceiling works, which I must say were improvements over my own proposed ideas for the plaster ceiling works. I have no hesitation to recommend Mr Weng to my friends who intend to do such works for their homes, no issue.

Should anyone in this forum wish to see the finished works, call me 109-2280569, week-end will be better for me. Laman Baiduri is in Subang Jaya.

Thanks, chin


Thank you Mr Chin

quote from mamasos

For the footprint, owner should done all the renovation works and then paint job at last, this should be to correct sequence.

For the wiring tripping, i have the same situation like you but i asked my wiring man come back to fix it for me but with no charge la.

To ease this kind of headaches, you should not act like a contractor.
You should let the main contractor to handle all this mess.

thank you mamasos

This post has been edited by weng98: Jul 22 2013, 08:25 PM

My plaster ceiling is cracking at the joint. How to repair it, any one can offer help/advice? thanks!

hi escargo.. maybe take a photo of it.. i am sure there's lots of sifus here to give advice..
or maybe you can do some check list..

1- is the crack caused by water leakage from toilets/roofing?

2- any strong movement from repair works eg: stepping on ceiling whilst repairing pump or water tank?

3- if possible use a torchlight and peek through the manhole to see if there's any loose screws on the suspension system..

good luck...

Not all all the reason you highlighted but I think due to soil movement. Can it be repaired, how?

has it stabilized?, if yes we can repair..

Hi there, I haven't got my keys yet for my condo which is located in Sg Besi. Size is 1,074 sq ft. Looking to do some plaster ceiling as per attached in my living room as well as some wiring & painting of my unit. How much will it cost? PM me pse. Thx. Adrian


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Hi Weng,

I am about to get my key in next week. It is a condo, PV2 at Taman Melati, Setapak. Great to hear you have done one at PV16.
I would like to do some simple renovation, could you please advice if you provide services as below and how much? :
(Or any recommendation to do the electrical works / Kitchen cabinet)
Please see attached picture

1) Living
- 1x Ceiling Fan, 1x Light

2) Dining
- 1x Light

3) Kitchen
- Kitchen Cabinet, 1x Light

4) Common Toilet
- Water Heater, 1x Light

5) Entrance
- 1x Light

6) Balcony
- 1x Light

7) Master Room
- Ceiling Fan, 2x Lights

8) Master Bathroom
- Water Heater, 1x Light

9) Bed 1
- Ceiling Fan, 1x Light

10) Bed 2
- Ceiling Fan, 1x Light

11) Study Room (This is a open space room, I want to convert it to a enclose bedroom)
- Partition wall, Window on partition wall, Door, Exhaust Fan, Ceiling Fan, 2x Lights

Thanks!
Dikcson
Email: Dickson_8828@hotmail.com

Hi,

Would you do some small plaster ceiling works? I wish to do the following :

1) Replaster a minor slit between my beam and plaster ceiling
2) open 3 small manholes : 2 near airconds and one at bottom floor ceiling just for access to look at when i need to take a look


Thanks

Hi

I am interested of fixing a plain plaster ceiling on my 3 bedroom.
What do i need to provide you before you could give me the quotation?
I have yet to receive my house key.

My house is a double storeys linked house at USJ 11,
Thank you.

Hi Weng,

What is the differences btw L-box and Light through?

Hi,

Are you a mf owner?

hi there,

Yes, u are correct.

U also? Done anything to your unit?

Thx

Hi Weng bos, can pm me with details. Want to do plaster ceiling for my new condo. Pls pm me. I will brief u later. Tx

Hi Weng, do you do plaster ceiling at Rawang? Hope to hear from u soon. Thanks.

Hi Weng98, please PM me your e-mail address.. I need a quotation for whole house plaster ceiling.. Thanks..

Yes i'm.

Still budgeting for reno. Cant find the balance point. Haha.

Hi Weng, would like to ask whether you are still in the plaster ceiling business? I would like to enquire and invite you to my house for an assessment and quotation. Thanks!

How do you meant by curtain pelmet?

Penang can ?

can just paint plaster ceiling with sealer?

http://www.taipangroup.com.my/web/property_residency_TB.asp

give me quotation for this. will do for the master room and living room.

if can give me some sample of picture thanks.

Install ceiling medallion for fan only, at living room,

please quote me, with the medallion pic as well if can.

tq

got a contact to share, his workmanship and price is reasonable

choy - 017-346 9479

too bad client/contractor relationship turn sour.
worse is my job as ID standing in the middle of both parties.

i was looking for additional contact for plaster ceiling contractor. thanks for your posting here. keep us updated of your latest project ya

hi Weng, please quote plaster ceiling for Length 23' 2" x Width 10' 10"
Thank you.

Weng

R u still doing ceiling renovation ?

Penang can ?

Dear all,
I had five different quotations for plaster ceiling The first one quoated RM 5K and the last one quoated RM 10K .I would appreciate if anyone have plaster ceiling contract in Ipoh?

Thanking in advance.

dude.. just use my rates and calculate the area that you wanna do the ceiling .. plus add in some hooks, manhole or maybe if there's lbox or light trough.. just add in those as well and you shouldnt be too far off.. good luck

just completed this at Taman Tropika 2 in Bangi..


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do you include the LED light?

normally the owners will buy and we install.. thank you all for support..

very nice...waiting to get refund from bank then probably will contact mr weng for the plaster ceiling works...

Hi,

May I know normally how many % of down payment to be made?

Thank you

Hi Weng

Do u have email

I send u my floor plan u quote

Wan those Abostos free board?? What board r u using? ? Mine is old school type plaster ceiling. ... board one ..

Want your suggestion.
Which one is better for light through?
Blue or yellow or white?

when you go for leds (in strips form).. there are heaps of colours to choose from.. some even changes colours.. however with led the rays are more
concentrated whereas t5s disperse the lights out more thoroughly across the room..

Hi Weng

You got P.M

Hi weng , can you reply my PM?

thanks

hi Weng,

I want to do plaster ceiling for my bathroom sized 6.6ft X 4ft toilet. What would be the estimated price?

Hello, we brought a new condo at KL just finish renovated it with kitchen cabinet, plaster ceiling and grill around 5K... Our constructor is Mr Yap:0166116211

hi,based on this post,i engaged tis Yap guy,agreed on a quote for bathroom reno,and work started.it has been 2 months now,2 days ago we called to check on how long more,and this guy is gone,cleared his tools,and not answering his phone? anyone knows him? Mr.Yap?
kepong selayang area.
desperately need some advice,help.
Total payment has been paid.

Can pm me your contact? I want to do plaster ceiling

[quote=prab1022,Jun 4 2014, 12:44 PM]
Hello, we brought a new condo at KL just finish renovated it with kitchen cabinet, plaster ceiling and grill around 5K... Our constructor is Mr Yap:0166116211

hi,based on this post,i engaged tis Yap guy,agreed on a quote for bathroom reno,and work started.it has been 2 months now,2 days ago we called to check on how long more,and this guy is gone,cleared his tools,and not answering his phone? anyone knows him? Mr.Yap?
kepong selayang area.
desperately need some advice,help.
Total payment has been paid.

[/quote
Hi I wonder why you're posting this over here..??

any sifu here know what is the different between gypsum board and plasterboard? use gypsum board better than plasterboard for ceiling? thanks for the advice...

Gypsum board normally is used to do partition. It is slightly stronger then the normal plaster board for ceiling. The cost per sq ft will be very high if you use gypsum board for ceiling.

Sifu and contractors...8.5mm and 9mm board.....thickness difference is only 0.5mm. Does it matter if we use the 8.5mm instead of 9mm board?

30mm and 34mm aluminum support rod....can 30mm support 9mm plaster ceiling board?

I have contractor that quote me 30mm aluminum/8.5mm ceiling board at 30% cheaper than 30mm/9mm board. So just curious why the price different of so much. In dilemma whether to go for 30mm/8.5 or 30mm/9mm.

the price difference of 8.5mm and 9mm board is rm0.02 per square ft.. good luck

Wow...only RM0.02 per square ft for the board but quote from contractors increase by 30% if use 30mm support/9mm board as compare to 30mm/8.5mm board.

Since it is only 0.5mm thickness difference, does it matter if we use the 8.5mm board instead of the 9mm board? Anyone encounter any problems with this?

Weng, are u still in plaster ceiling biz ?

Pm contact pls. Wanna do plaster ceiling

Can't seem to get through to your phone. Do PM me... I am looking for a plaster ceiling contractor

Hi Weng, I just bought a new condo in ampang and want to do plaster ceiling. Please PM me your latest pricing and contact. TQ

can pm me for the quotation

if wan to redo (mean removal of existing plaster ceiling)
size is like around 500 sqf, replace with just flat board, nothing fancy

the light points are there, no more additional lights point but have 2 fan hook

how much would it be
- removal existing plaster ceiling
- flat board + paint
- size around 500sqf
- 2 fan hook

location: sg buloh

I've called Weng 0162150898 many time to request quotation for plaster ceiling, but unable to contact. Any other contractor there ?

can always text here.. or whatsapp..

Dear Sifus,

Previous owner already done basic flat ceiling. Can I reuse it and adding L boxes?

adding L/box below the existing is always possible ..

What is the price for a 320 sqft of plaster ceiling include the wiring and switch?

Can you pm me your contact number and e-mail address?
Interested on Plaster Ceiling and Wiring. Thanks.