Wow...thanks... by the way...do we stay in the campus all the time? Do we have chances to go out to town? I think there are 2 different campuses in USM... engineering campus is in Seberang Perai...

not Seberang Perai...
it is Seberang Perai SELATAN... near to perak..
where is very far from town.. a very kampung kampung place...
that is why i never apply USM engineering course...

Wow wow....then we will be deserted if we go there...

By the way... My first choice is engineering course in USM...

during my 1st week of uni life, me and my friends (actually all the 1st year, mostly boys) were being called by seniors at 3 in the morning during orientation week and all of us were asked to do stupid things... nice huh?

Please avoid too much casual chatters over here, thanks

the buli culture is gone a decade ago... i think in my time, we were the unlucky SOB who they said were the last generation of this sick culture....

btw, graduated from USMKCP (the legend...) they used to called it LONCO = ragging...

it's tradition for the USMKCP newbie to be lonco by their senior during the first week of the 2-week orientation... but during my time, it's was however controlled a bit ... not the worst one as u may hear in the UPM ceiling fan case .
during my time, seniors are not allowed to have body contact with the junior...they may ask u to do stupid things ie, climb the lighting pole, bark like a door at 2 am, sniff ur roomate underware (iyaksssssss..) etc..etc la.. but never they will touch US.... this is monitored by the warden and his spies.... but in my case there are a few junior who kena tampar with the senior coz of their rudeness ... to me this is an unforgetable memories and after the 2 week of torment, u can sit beside ur senior and they will knew ur name.....
only in my senior, this culture is ceast to exist......... i dont have the change to 'revenge' and we senior didnt knew the junior and they also dont know us....that';s kinda bad situation as we're living in small campuss where u can see each same faces everyday and night!!!

is good to have this in my head...the sweet memories of KCP............

for those of u that plan to take eng in USM , yes the place is deserted in rural area....

this is indeed a good enviroment for u student....
u dont have the chance to play around, went out to disco etc..etc...
so u may do ur responsibility - studies...
back in my time, the campuss is in perak...so far away from civilasation...and being city boy, the first few month like a seksaaan in hell.... worst if u dont own a transportation..have to reply on the stupid old bus which travel like kura2 ..and took 1 1/2 hr to get into town....

well, the area is well developed now...got highway..15 mins to town...

looking of this, i can say thanks to the situation..i dont know what will happen to me if the campuss is so near to town like the USM main campuss...most of my friend end up in hell!!

Edited by Geminist: Please use the edit button the next time and do not double post under yourself. Thank you

This post has been edited by Geminist: Apr 25 2006, 09:45 AM

Lets say in USM engineering campus... it's said that it's far from town... that means if in second year we can't live in hostel anymore.... will we face difficulties finding accomodations outside the campus?

no worry lah..
by that time you will have a lot friends, can rent house with them...
or you can keep staying in the hostel..

dude, i think you worry too much la..
relax...
you will enjoy the campus life!!

i'm just gonna add on the UTM (skudai):

yeah, it's true that all students (regardless of junior or senior) will have to stay in campus. there are upside and downside to this. but simply put, u have a wide choice of rooms to choose from.

all the new colleges and new blocks in old colleges have free internet connection now. but they've setup a system where u wont be able to use torrent, kazaa or any p2p softwares from inside.

there are several types of rooms. the favourite would be the single room with bathroom attached + balcony. quite cheap, about RM 180 - 200 per month inclusive of everything. there are also rooms with a common kitchen (mostly for post-grads or family).

life is pretty much controlled. as usually, boys arent allowed inside girls' blocks, but they're pretty much free to roam about outside. no booze/liquor, and generally there are no curfew inside the university (except for some of the girl's college, where they will lock the gates, but u can still walk in, only cars would have to stay outside).



for KL campus, well, currently it's pretty crappy lah. cant say much. but last year i was involved in a new design proposal for UTM KL, and basically it's a whole makeover of the whole campus. i cant reveal too much of the details, but we scrapped the earlier traditional look for a more radical approach in design. not sure what's going on right now, coz i'm off the project to study.

What about the certs we get when we graduate? How wide is the recognition? Is it only recognised by government sector?

here's the rule of tumb..

if the government recognise it, then all other will...

Ive been to USM(went to have a look at the place)Its actually kinda small,IMO,but very clean though.But,its really hot,when i went there..phewwzz,i was sweating all along
I like the place because it feels very peaceful and nice.
But,somehow,i still like my Uni better,UTM!!!

let's talk about campus design in general. information here are based on my personal observations. might differ on occassions.

UM kuala lumpur

not much on planned design, but basically the centre of UM is the lake, where most of its main buildings are located around it. it expands over hills around the lake valley, where most of the faculties are located. college/hostels are located sporadically, most are located near faculties.

vehicular access is quite good, although at peak hours i feel there are too much traffic inside UM. parking can be a hassle.

UPM serdang

a university designed over a HUGE land. i've been to some universities in europe which couldnt even compare with the sheer size of UPM. but basically most are farm/plantations. buildings are sporadic, although the main buildings are all located in the centre. colleges/hostels are located in specific areas, but mostly have good distance to its respective faculties.

u'll need to have a car or atleast a bike to live in UPM. i wouldnt even recommend bicycles. but i think they have good public/university transport. good vehicular access. parking are negotiable.

UiTM shah alam

designed to complement shah alam city, which actually well integrated into the urban fabric. main buildings are located on top of the hill, which most already know is one of the landmarks of shah alam (the menara). faculties and buildings are located within good distance with each other, but being on a hill with varied topography can make the difference between near and far. colleges/hostels are located close to faculties, and sometimes can be seen in pairs.

acceptable vehicular access, but the centre tends to get too crowded during peak hours. parking IS a hassle, depending on where u are. motorcycles are highly recommended.

USM penang

quite a small campus compared to the others, mainly due to limited land area. u can walk the longest stretch of USM in less than 30 minutes. main buildings are concentrated in the centre stretch of the campus, with faculties and other buildings complementing each other. colleges/hostels are located within short distance, but my believe is that students stay mostly off-campus due to limited space.

vehicular access is quite limited, but the flow is good. parking can be a hassle, but i've never been in USM long enough to observe peak hours. so i wouldnt know. again, motorcycles are recommended (by suggestions from friends).

UTM KL campus

i believe this is the SMALLEST public university campus in malaysia. u can walk the longest stretch in 15 minutes. main buildings are located in the centre, and other buildings (which are quite old) located very close to each other. most are already connected by expansions and additional buildings. hostels are located near the centre, but have very limited space.

dont bother about vehicles. u WONT get a parking there, even on sundays. believe me, i know. just get somebody to drop u off at the frontgate everyday. or get a bus or cab.

UTM JB

planned using sekolah pondok concept, with the mosque in the centre on top of a hill. faculties and main buildings are located around it, and hostels/colleges are located outside the faculty ring. although it's acceptably walkable from one faculty to another, walking from ur hostel to ur faculty might take more than 30 minutes. usually more.

vehicular access are good, although parking in the central area might be limited during peak hours. there are central parking zones near central zone, and usually students walk from there on to their respective faculties.

LUCT cyberjaya

one of the fanciest looking university in malaysia. it's actually consist of several buildings, which are efficiently well connected with each other. u'd get a feel of shopping complex typology around the building. hostels are only for foreign students, so local students had to find outside accommodation.

vehicular access is very good. parking is also quite good, although u might have to pay if u wanna park closer to the building. owh, if u wanna drive, better drive a big car. small cars, dont bother lah . i parked my car so far away, malu ho!




note: i've never been to:

a. UTP, which from what i gather, is the best looking university in msia. won many awards too, architecturally, atleast.
b. UIA gombak, the new campus have been said to have impressive planning and design layout with a lot of consideration of the Islamic factors.
c. UUM, where the design was submitted to several international competitions, and got special mentions. not sure if they won any awards though.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Apr 28 2006, 07:50 AM