there is a group buy for double shot currently.

Those are ABS double shots, not PBT. The fella is looking for PBT, if you get ABS.. it's basically almost the same thing as your stock keycaps.. lol

Forget about it. To manufacture similar grade as Topre would mean just as expensive. When you see the real thing you will understand. Besides, we can get the same Topre dye sub pbt on the realforce. I already posted pricing somewhere it is a few hundred.
Don't fret. If you trust me, dont waste your money anywhere. In about 1-2 months I will offer dye sub pbt cap for cherry with smooth finishing. This is thick dye sub btw
Heaven does not have 87. 87u back order only. We will not stock it unless dealers dare to commit.

For everybody's information, we will price the realforce 104u at rm799. The heaven around 499. The topre cap is very expensive I forgot how much it is but iirc around 400. Our dealers will not stock it and we will sell direct.

So, think 5 times before you decide to buy a heaven or realforce.