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post May 21 2013, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(emanresu @ May 21 2013, 02:07 PM)
Msia got miltiarys scietnist?
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We got National Defence University of Malaysia....Universiti Pertahanan Nasional Malaysia...there you can find military scientist



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post May 22 2013, 12:52 PM

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To Zahid and other politicians:


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post May 22 2013, 04:07 PM

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CN295 on ASEAN tour to show capabilities

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A CN295 military transport aircraft of the Indonesian Ministry of Defense will be making a tour around six ASEAN countries to promote the capabilities and efficiency of the transport aircraft that PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI) and Airbus Military are producing jointly. The aircraft will make visits toPhilippines, Brunei Darussalam,Vietnam,Thailand,MyanmarandMalaysiabetween 22nd and 31st of May.

The C295, denominated CN295 in the Indonesian Ministry of Defense, is a medium-sized multirole airlifter for both civic and military use. The tour, organized by the Indonesian Ministry of Defense, PTDI and Airbus Military, and led by Vice Minister Sjafrie Sjamsuddien, will showcase the benefits of the aircraft which is optimally suited for the wide range of humanitarian and defence tasks that ASEAN Governments need to cover. These missions include military transport, emergency response and medical evacuation, search and rescue, maritime patrol, or even more complex missions such as anti-submarine warfare or electronic surveillance missions.

The visits will also allow explanations on the specific capabilities of the CN235 and the NC212i, an upgraded version of the C212 launched in November 2012 between PTDI and Airbus Military with new avionics and autopilot systems as well as an increased passenger seating, increasing its cost efficiency significantly.

The Indonesia Air Force currently has two CN295s in operation out of the nine units ordered from PTDI. By 2015, all of the nine units will be in service in Indonesia, with deliveries to the Indonesian Ministry of Defense taking place from the delivery centre and a final assembly line that Airbus Military and PTDI are setting up in Bandung, Indonesia, as a direct result of PTDI’s and Airbus Military’s Strategic Partnership signed in 2011.

In total, over 120 C295s have been ordered world-wide from Airbus Military and currently almost 100 are in operation with countries such as Algeria, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Czech Republic, Egypt, Finland, Ghana, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Mexico, Poland, Portugal and Spain.

Meanwhile, the CN235 and NC212, with sales of over 270 and 470 respectively, are operating successfully in over 30 countries in the world. The operators of CN295, CN235 and NC212 are extremely satisfied with the reliability, capability, and robustness of the aircraft, which are extremely easy to operate even in hostile and difficult environments. As a result, the aircraft currently have the clear leadership in this segment.

Source: Asian Military Review



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post May 22 2013, 04:32 PM

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Singapore ordered more air-to-air missiles


Singapore has ordered another 20 AIM-9X Block II Sidewinder and 100 AIM-120C7 AMRAAM air-to-air missiles for its 98 American F-15 and F-16 fighters. The AIM-9X-2 is the latest version of the Sidewinder, a missile that has come a long way since it first appeared in the 1950s. The 9X-2 can lock-on-after-launch. That is, the missile can be fired and then directed to a target via a datalink. That means it can be fired at ground targets or at an enemy aircraft behind you. The X-2 version also makes improvements in the warhead fuze and other components. As impressive as all these features, most are already found in similar missiles made in several other countries (including Russia and China). In effect, the X-2 version is just keeping up. What the U.S. sells, in addition, is an impressive track record of reliability and actually performing as expected in combat. Over 4,000 X model Sidewinders have been built since it entered service in 2003. Block II (X-2) entered service four years ago. Singapore has already ordered nearly a thousand AIM-9 and AIM-120 missiles. The current order is costing $1.8 million per AMI-9X and $2.1 million per AIM-120C7. This includes technical services and support.


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The AIM-9 is a heat seeking missile and the heat sensors have become much more sensitive since the first AIM-9s. The current versions of the missile work by detecting a heat source at the point where the pilot is looking. This is done using the JHMCS (Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems), which allows a pilot to see, displayed on his visor, critical flight and navigation information. Sort of like a see-through computer monitor or HUD (Head Up Display). Most importantly, the pilot can turn his head towards a target, get an enemy aircraft or ground target into the crosshairs displayed on the visor, and fire a missile that will promptly go after the target the pilot was looking at. For Sidewinder the pilot has to be looking at something giving off enough heat to catch the attention of the missile's heat sensor. With the X-2 the pilot can launch the missile before he has located the target via the JHMCS, saving a critical few seconds.


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AMRAAM is a longer range radar guided missile that weighs 172 kg (335 pounds), is 3.7 meters (12 feet) long, and 178mm (7 inches) in diameter. This is considerably larger than the 85.3 kg (188 pound) Sidewinder, which is about the same length but only 127mm in diameter. AMRAAM has a max range of 70 kilometers. U.S. aircraft use the AIM-120D while export customers get the C7 version.

Eight years ago Singapore decided to order a dozen two-seater F-15SG fighter-bombers and then 12 more to complement the 74 F-16s it already had. The last of the F-15SGs arrived last year. The F-15SG variant was a configuration that was unique to Singapore and was the most advanced variant of the F-15. The two-seat F-15SG had high-end electronics comparable to the F-15E it was based on.


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....and engagement by SU 30 mk

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post May 22 2013, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 22 2013, 06:53 PM)
1.8 mil per missile?? damnnn~ whats the price for a Russian Amraamski?
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Malaysia bought 35 Vympel R-77 RVV-AE air-to-air missiles last year ......The missile deal is worth RM106.4 million ($35 million).


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The Russians have always been excellent missile designers and their AAM's, SAM's, MANPADs and Theatre weapons are well regarded. The sidewinder 9x is said to be a far superior short range hitter though.

It was mentioned somewhere that the Russians offered to develop and share data on a longer range R-77 if Australia purchased SU-35's.

Talking bout Russian technology....I also heard that many years ago during FPDA (Five Powers Defence Arrangements) exercise, the RMAF Migs give the RAAF F/A-18A pilots an unpleasant surprise when the Migs were able to "defeat" The RAAF "Bugs" in the simulated combat. Because of this that the RAAF decide to acquire some AMRAAM and the JHMMCS capability
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 22 2013, 11:26 PM)
i just love how russian media conveniently used F-22 as the target. hell even the french used F-22 as target as well
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I have the feeling that US aviation development will be much affected by their economy....after all military industrial complex need sales....and their govt has been strict about selling only to their allies...look at how the French have twice downsize their Rafale requirements this year....which is the reason why they are not giving up on the Indian salaes.....while the Russians are looking for new markets everywhere....and their fourth and fifth generation developments are onstream
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 23 2013, 12:03 AM)
it's all about keeping the price down. the US approach to F-22 is to start from scratch, by developing from new canvas.new engine, new radar, new computer system,etc.

what the russian did is by using existent technology and refine it. the russian benefitted from their parallel aircraft development,which some of its system predates the airframe itself(TVC-capable engine, IRST, AESA-capable radar,etc). all they have to do is to design an airframe with stealth capability and put existing equipment in it

what i foresee in the future is that only 4 country that are capable to produce their own fighter;US of A, russia, japan and china. other country will rely on JV, akin to eurfighter typhoon.

South Korea already have strong military ties with Turkiye, while the french are considering joint effort with brazil. india will always be india; a fiasco
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post May 23 2013, 01:19 AM

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This monster is even larger than the Nimitz class!


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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ May 23 2013, 08:26 AM)
it's not real la.
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post May 23 2013, 11:03 AM

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Do you know that we almost had a nuclear war in 1983………

The Man Who Saved the World

On September 26, 1983 Lt Col. Stanislav Yevgrafovich Petrov was the duty officer at the command center for the Oko nuclear early-warning system when the system reported a missile being launched from the United States. Petrov judged that the report was a false alarm. This decision is credited with having prevented an erroneous retaliatory nuclear attack on the United States and its NATO allies, which could have resulted in large-scale nuclear war. Investigation later confirmed that the satellite warning system had malfunctioned.

Petrov, as an individual, was not in a position where he could have single-handedly launched any of the Soviet missile arsenal. But had Petrov reported incoming American missiles, his superiors might have launched an assault against the United States, precipitating a corresponding nuclear response from the United States.




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post May 23 2013, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ May 23 2013, 09:37 PM)
So whatever has happened to the Indonesian KFX/IFX project......is it still in cold storage....the following came out in Jakarta Post on May 16 2013....


From super jet fighter project to lame duck

The government insists that it will go ahead with development of the KFX/IFX jet fighter although its South Korean counterpart, under the newly elected President Park Geun-hye, has decided to postpone the project.

“We don’t want to call the postponement a failure or annulment. KFX/IFX is not a failed project. It was merely because of the transition of government in South Korea,” Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said after meeting President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono at the State Palace on Wednesday.

Purnomo said that there was no change to the commitment to the joint development of the aircraft.

“We have told our South Korean counterparts that we will continue doing our part. Whatever their decision is, and whatever technology they focus on, we will follow their lead and our 20 percent of share will remain,” Purnomo said.

Purnomo claimed the delay would not cost much, because it is a long term project, expected to last 15 years.

The agreement was signed in 2012 when South Korea was still led by president Lee Myung-bak.

The 2012 deal states that Indonesia will pay up to 20 percent of the US$5 billion development project with the remaining 80 percent paid by the South Korean government and the Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI).

The KFX/IFX programme was intended to develop a next-generation fighter aircraft by 2020.

The KFX/IFX fighter is a single-seat, twin-engine jet with stealth capability equal to the US-made Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor.

The new South Korean government wishes to develop an aircraft equal to the more advanced Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.

Soon after she was elected in February, Park began to reconsider the KFX/IFX project, especially considering the amount of money South Korea would have to pay.

New members of parliament have also refused to prioritize the project and Seoul has decided to delay the project for 18 months.

Lawmakers were disappointed with the cancellation particularly because Indonesia has financed the initial research and development.

The government has sent dozens of scientists to South Korea.

TB Hasanuddin of House Commission I on defense and foreign affairs, said that about Rp 1.6 trillion ($164.8 million) was already spent on the project.


Source: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/05...-lame-duck.html


The question is whether South Korea chooses to pick up the project again, after the 18-month delay is over.



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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ May 23 2013, 11:36 PM)
i'm wondering if they've delayed (indefinitely) cos SK doesn't want to piss off Uncle Sam.
Later Uncle Sam merajuk pull out troops.
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(Indonesian) Minister of Defense Stands by Used Tanks

May 22, 2013

Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro has defended the government’s decision to buy Leopard tanks from Germany, saying Indonesia was lucky to be able to get 150 used tanks with a budget meant for 44 new tanks.

Purnomo said the tanks had already been modified to suit the country’s tropical weather.

“Regarding the 44 [tanks], they’re brand new and [the ones purchased now] are second-hand, but they have been modified. They can be used in tropical areas and that’s why they are called Leopard RI [Republik Indonesia],” Purnomo said on Tuesday.

The tanks are expected to arrive in the country in October.

“Initially with the same amount of money, we would only get 44 brand new [tanks] but now [we get] 100 main battle tanks and around 50 medium battle tanks, so around 150,” Purnomo said.

Purnomo insisted the Leopards’ ability would reach the right standard after modification.

He said the ministry had also made an adjustment to its plan to purchase F-16 planes from the United States.

Indonesia initially planned to buy six new F-16s but will now get more than six units by purchasing a similarly used and modified F-16.

Meanwhile, lawmakers from House of Representatives Commission I expressed disappointment over South Korea’s decision to postpone cooperation with Indonesia in producing the Korean Fighter Experimental (KFX) aircraft for 18 months.

“The one-and-a-half-year delay is too long. It’s almost as good as a cancelation,” said Agus Gumiwang Kartasasmita, deputy chairman of Commission I, which oversees defense matters, in a meeting with the defense minister.

Commission I chairman Mahfudz Siddiq said the postponement set a bad precedent for relations between Indonesia and South Korea. “Commission I deeply regrets the postponement made by South Korea over the long term cooperation on KFX aircraft,” Mahfudz said.

Source: Jakarta Globe



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QUOTE(faizyusof94 @ May 23 2013, 11:49 PM)
sorry,noob question here

1) i always wonder how many classes are there for navy ships??
2) how are they got their name?
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For 1) follow this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_naval...sses_in_service



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QUOTE(faizyusof94 @ May 23 2013, 11:49 PM)
sorry,noob question here

1) i always wonder how many classes are there for navy ships??
2) how are they got their name?
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Quite a long list. The name of a ship class is most commonly the name of the first ship commissioned or built of its design particularly the hull design.
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QUOTE(faizyusof94 @ May 24 2013, 12:18 AM)
which means same hull design = same class..??
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In the US Navy a class is always named after the lead ship,..... the first ship of the class to be approved....as we know naval architect take great effort and money to develop a hull design...so it serve as a sort of template should others want to order....of course vessels are not mass produced....but development cost will be minimised if you take a ready design hull and then retrofit the rest according to your requirements
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 24 2013, 12:12 AM)
100,000 ton for Ford?? woaa...how that thing can still float..btw, Dokdo/Mistral is considered as an aircraft carrier? i see..that explains shahpaskal saying M'sia will be the first negara Islam yang mempunyai kapal pengangkut pesawat if we bought Dokdo in his blog, militaryofmalaysia.net..  blink.gif
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I thought Dokdo/Mistral is classified as a amphibious assault carrier of the type LHD (Landing Helicopter Dock)


Their use according to US Navy Factfile:

Amphibious warships are designed to support the Marine Corps tenets of Operational Maneuver From the Sea (OMFTS) and Ship to Objective Maneuver (STOM). They must be able to sail in harm's way and provide a rapid buildup of combat power ashore in the face of opposition. Because of their inherent capabilities, these ships have been and will continue to be called upon to also support humanitarian and other contingency missions on short notice.


P.S. Seawise Giant, later named Happy Giant, Jahre Viking, and Knock Nevis, a ULCC supertanker was the biggest and the longest ship ever built, with the greatest deadweight tonnage ever recorded.... 564,700 tones.

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 24 2013, 11:47 PM)
ganti kd inderapura

then again, when u used kancil b4(suddenly burnt to ashes), and has growing family and you could afford to buy better car, would you still gonna buy another kancil? maybe u could buy viva or myvi(them indon makassar class, or french foundre class) but it's better to upgrade to alza(thus the dokdo)

but then again i have no problem at all if malaysia go the viva/myvi route. small car is better than no car at all
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Good comments.....hope you don't mind I expand it a little bit:

1. Our country is split into two i.e. East and West M'sia so an important function is for logistics.....moving troops and assets

2. Disaster relief and humanitarian assistance roles - for example if an area is hit by tsunami and ports in the area is unusable

3. Forced entry capability - helos could be used to ferry rapid response force ahead of the main troop and assets being brought to shore on board.

4. As a power projection asset

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 25 2013, 02:41 AM)
tbh we don really need dokdo class.
LDP will be more beneficial for our fleet addition.
unless we really does have huge budget for our military then I dun mind having 1. laugh.gif
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LPD’s is only really necessary if you're planning a forced entry capability anywhere that requires the support of heavy vehicles i.e MBT's or heavy SP arty etc. A CVL or light carrier is optimised for aircraft operations. There are no vehicle decks or inter-deck ramps, the "assault routes" internally are poor for getting troops from the messdecks. Which is why I think our Navy came out with the MRSS concept

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