QUOTE(king of fighter @ Jun 18 2013, 11:39 PM)
cuba kau perhati betul-betul bukan ke semua yang kuat makan minyak tu adalah pesawat pejuang yang dibina khas untuk Navy atau lebih senang cerita dibina khas untuk naik pesawat pengangkut perang.. sebab tu enjin dia dibina amat kuat kedarah minyak.. dia nak berlepas naik dari aircraft-carrier tu guna banyak sungguh tenaga
semua kat bawah ni dibina khas untuk navy (naik aircraft carrier punya) sebab tu kedarah minyak gak
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F/A-18EF Super Hornet -- 0.17 km/liter (paling tak ekonomi)
F/A-18 HORNET -- 0.29 km/liter (tak berapa ekonomi nih)
Dassault Rafale -- 0.27 km/liter (tak berapa ekonomi juga nih)
kalau
atreyuangel kata suruh beli rafale sebab kos operasi MiG29 kononnya tinggi..
pastu kita angkat Rafale, kita dah korbankan kelajuan pesawat pemintas terbaik kita dah ni..
dah rugi kat sini, pastu kita kita pun macam tak ada perancangan nak bina aircraft carrier sendiri.
jadi apakah relevannya disini pilih Rafale?? konon nak tiru macam india.. tapi diaorang ada perancangan nak bina aircraft carrier sendiri.
kalau kita nak tiru macam australia.. diaorang bila-bila masa je F18 diaorang boleh tumpang air-craft carrier USA kalau China datang ancam diaorang.
doktrin pertahanan singapura, jepun dan korea juga antara yang terbaik..
pilih F15 sebagai pesawat pemintas yang dibina khas untuk lawan jiran-jiran diaorang, jimat kos.
nampaknya Eurofighter Typhoon dan lain-lain pesawat pejuang dalam tender MMRCA masih ada harapan untuk menang tender dia nanti,
melainkan tetiba ada pengumuman besar yang kita pun akan bina aircraft carrier sendiri, maka
atreyuangel punya pilihan Rafale ada harapan untuk menang, aku pun akan tolong backing juga nanti.. tapi kalau tak ada pengumuan yang kita akan bina aircraft carrier sendiri macam India.. boleh jadi teruk gak kena hentam nanti di parlimen Malaysia

Aku tak boleh nak cerita real figure of operation cost of 17 Squadron per annum,
takut nanti boleh disalah guna oleh orang yang tak bertanggung jawab serta ada harapan aku masuk lokap (hishhh mintak jauhhhhh~)
Typhoon.
1. Cost per aircraft mahal (T3)
2. Support crew ramai
3. Supports machine seperti, dehumidifier, total renovation of hanger to fully air condition, extra care product (nak jaga fuselage kat cuaca panas)
4. Limited technology due to many of it still in testing phase
5. Nak bayar duit kat 5 negara (remember that this plane is build from 5 different nation)
6. Not battlefield proved yet!
Superhornet (or other US plane)
The most best choice, in term of money and matured technology but
1. Limited technology, resource and weapon. Yes US will determined and controled what we will get. (The closer you with US, they will favour you. We are not that close to US like the SG, TH and Indo)
2. Close watch from the US congress and every major decision or modification on the toys need the US congress written consent.
3. Banyak procedure nak kene buat bila dealing with US toys.
4. Rujuk no.3 WE CAN'T GET WHAT WE WANT - kalau tidak in 2000++ kita dah pakai SH with AESA radar. Malaysia was the 1st country offered to have SH in exchange for their F/A-18D
5. Again political factor involved is huge
Rafale
1. Cost more than SH but less then Typhoon
2. Battlefield proven and good track record during Libya war where only the Rafale go deep to destroy SAM battery radars
3. Have a good weapon proven system.
4. We can built our own Rafale kat Malaysia
5. We can get what we want in term of weapon, system and sensors.
6. MKM have a similar system to Rafale so TUDM have operated a familiar system to Rafale (tak percaya tengok video pilot TUDM MKM pilot sekarang pakai helmet French)
7. Again, the weapon in rafale also can be used with MKM (MICA)
Gripen
1. The most economical choice
2. Less crew to operate and less support crew need
3. TUDM prefer dual engine but ready to make exception
4. Some parts esp the engine are US made, so tengok balik SH no.1
5. Good weapon system
6. Leased with option to buy are available.
7. A good interim replacement for MMRCA candidate (Rafale/Typhoon/SH) before the arrival in 2020
8. Good replacement for F5E fleet and Hawk!
so tengok sendiri la kenapa wa PILIH rafale over Typhoon!