Lenovo IdeaPad Y Series Thread v3, y510p, where are you?
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 May 25 2013, 09:01 AM
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Guys and girls, the Y500 version that I have didn't come with msata. Has anybody here got the same thing and successfully upgraded the Lenovo with the msata SSD, either as a separate drive or accelerating the slower hard drive?
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May 25 2013, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(hardi_7 @ May 25 2013, 11:28 AM) I just upgrade mine Y500 with msata and SSD. Y500 got 2 port msata. 1 inside and another one beside the port of ultrabay. Malaysia set doesn't come with msata. Hmm. Well, I am looking to upgrade the MSATA inside the laptop anyway. Just need to check whether the msata is wired properly or if this is just some for show only.   |
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May 26 2013, 02:23 AM
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Er.. Why is everyone talking about that msata port? The one that I finally used was the msata beside the RAM. Heck, I even got Expresscache working already..
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May 26 2013, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(3rw4n @ May 26 2013, 07:13 AM) So if i install msata ssd, i can set it to be boot drive or storage, and expresscache ryte? And if to make it as expresscache, what should i need to do? 1. Yes, you can. Sticking the msata SSD in, it will show up in the list of drives. After that, it would be a matter of installing Windows 8 and configuring the BIOS.2. If you decide to use a SSD as a cache drive, you need the driver here. http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/...?DocID=HT074404 Yes, the driver happens to state its for Windows 7 but it works for windows 8 too. Bear in mind that the expresscache defaults to 32 GB partition. You can change it though. Just stick the msata ssd in and run the driver. Yes, it works with the y500 also, not just the thinkpad. Performance wise, vs intel's solution - can't say, because hard to check. But it is caching. |
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May 26 2013, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 26 2013, 10:29 AM) If you got a 32GB or 64GB msata SSD, you can make it as express cache. Other sizes equal or larger than 64GB is better to act as a primary drive. My problem with just using a standard 32GB msata was that most reviews came out saying that the lower capacity also comes with dramatically lower performance. Read somewhere that one of the msata tested hovers aroung 50 MB per second, far worse and almost near the performance of fast HDD's. Bit the bullet and paid around RM60 plus more to get the 64gb (and faster version) QUOTE(kw3nyong @ May 26 2013, 12:24 PM) when is y500 gt750m sli coming to malaysia ?? they only currently stock the single graphic card option in lenovo stores A lot of resellers still has the SLI 650M versions. |
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May 26 2013, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 26 2013, 01:34 PM) Then invest bit more to take full advantage of SSD Waiting for 512MB SSD's to become a bit more viable before taking the plunge.. |
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May 26 2013, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(3rw4n @ May 26 2013, 02:28 PM) Yeah, im also waiting for cheaper 512Gb ssd but dunno how long need to wait..uhm..which brand is recommended? Depends on what type you are buying. The SSD to replace the hard drive or to add at the msata port.QUOTE(slimfox @ May 26 2013, 04:19 PM) To me when you buy a SSD (mSata or otherwise) you should look at the spec of the product. There are lots of type of SSD with different speeds and performance. I do not agree with your statement that bigger capacity=better performance. Unfortunately, capacity do play a role. NANDs are like platter, they come in various capacities that needed to be linked properly to work. Take for example the Intel 525. At 30GB and the characteristics of the SSD interleaving on available NAND die, it means that in some circumstances, the SSD drive at 30GB actually flatlines at the 50mb per second mark. Think of it this way. Imagine a 120GB HDD can be written to at 30MB per second. Now imagine 2 x 120GB HDD in a raid 0 configuration. Gives you 240GB Space and double the speed to 60MB per second. That's how some SSD works internally, which means capacity does matter. |
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May 26 2013, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(slimfox @ May 26 2013, 04:56 PM) Expresscache will only use maximum 32bg for mSata config. I have a 60bg mSata SSD but still only use 32gb (no way to set it to use max capacity unfortunately. You're in luck because for the 525, that is the minimum capacity with full 8x1 interleave. In part, that is why I went with Crucial because of the same capacity and about the same average speed.I am using Intel 525 series 60gb. You maybe right but I trust major brands/manufacturers will make sure their products run as per specification. I cannot comment about less know/well establish brands/manufacturers. Till today my mSata has been fantastic with super fast boot times. Note: for those who are using Lenovo's Espresscache remember to run the command "eccmd -preload c:\windows". This will preload the entire c:\windows folder into the mSata SSD thus making your boot times faster. The process of preloading takes time, I just run the command then went to sleep after waiting for 1hr+. |
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May 27 2013, 09:22 AM
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I would think that overclocking a laptop graphic card is a bad idea at first, but it seems that my temperature reading is holding steady at between 60-70 celcius during load.
Anyone here knew the max temp for the 750M? |
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May 27 2013, 10:40 AM
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Anybody actually know where they sell original Lenovo Ultrabay components in Malaysia? Or where can you actually order one.
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May 27 2013, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(storm88 @ May 27 2013, 11:05 AM) well, i already forseen this would b happen. Yes, but the CPU all hitting 70-80 degrees, don't think that's a problem, which is I asked what is the max temperature the 750M can handle before it starts to blow.GTX660 already so hot and now the same GPU with higher speed, even hotter... |
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Jun 16 2013, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(vyonxhin @ Jun 16 2013, 09:52 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bro.. i haven saw it, but i saw this... however should i install boot into the msata 1st, or configure it as a cache drive 1st...? do i nid to create partition for that?  Thanks..  If you want to use expresscache, just install the msata, boot into windows and the software will take care of things for you. |
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Jun 16 2013, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(vyonxhin @ Jun 16 2013, 10:15 AM) My rig is Y480, which used HM76 as well... Hm. Never tried it that way before, the msata I used isn't big enough for both. I supposed it is possible, but ultimately not that useful.So that means if i want to use my msata as my bootdrive AND Cachedrive, i just install my windows 8 and install expresscache on it ? I mean, if your msata is big enough for boot drive, may as well spend a little more and put all your program on the msata drive as well for the full SSD speed. |
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Jun 16 2013, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(sss2sssss @ Jun 16 2013, 10:26 AM) Dude, HM76 Chipset can't support express Cache... HM76 cannot support Intel's SSD caching solution.ExpressCache however is a solution from Condusiv (A.K.A Diskeeper) |
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Jun 16 2013, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(sss2sssss @ Jun 16 2013, 10:33 AM) Install the OS directly to SSD is still a better solution than ExpressCahce Of course. Any solution that uses the full SSD speed is a better solution all around. I've said as much a few post back. That assumes however that affordability is not an issue. Not everyone can afford to splurge an extra RM400++ just to install a 120-128GB msata.For now, the solution is there. You want cache, can, just stick the msata in an install the aformentioned drivers, and you are good to go. |
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Jun 27 2013, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jun 27 2013, 12:03 PM) the Windows 8 Key embended in the Lenovo machines are OEM SL keys. Storm, have you played around with the Windows 8.1 install yet Try installing with Retail Windows 8 ISOs mostly won't work. ( i mean even you can install, but you can't activate the windows)  ..Have this feeling that I'm about to waste some time now.. |
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Jun 27 2013, 12:14 PM
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Hmm. Have this spare Y410P that someone traded for something else.
We shall see if I can download the preview.. |
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Jun 27 2013, 12:19 PM
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Yeah well, itchy already. Looks like I'm not going to list the Y410P first after all.
Downloading preview.. But first, doing the backup.. |
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Jun 28 2013, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(ameenbp94 @ Jun 28 2013, 10:33 PM) sory for asking, can we check the waranti while dealing with the seller? can u give me the link for waranti checking? The problem is, all Lenovo sets default to the manufacturing date for the sets if you do check online. Lenovo will update when the reseller or you yourself send the original receipt copy for warranty update and registration.The easiest way to differentiate between us and Malaysian set, is look for the MY at the end of the product serial or the Sirim sticker. And yes, AP set will have trouble claiming warranty from Lenovo Malaysia. |
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Jun 29 2013, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(freezer @ Jun 28 2013, 10:50 PM) But if the seller has official receipt then no problem right?we can go straight to lenovo malaysia service centre?? Yep, you need the official receipt when the unit was bought in the US, not when you buy it from the reseller. There have been cases where Lenovo Malaysia actually told the buyer to go and ask the reseller to arrange warranty.QUOTE(devour @ Jun 28 2013, 11:19 PM) u need invoice from US seller if u bought US set, not from Local seller, dont misunderstanding , if u failed to show it, they will ask u to show travel visa to proof u did visited to US. For ur info, those AP seller will ask you go to Singapore or Indonesia for warranty if Lenovo Malaysia services center have question you. Yep. So that RM200 you save ends up costing you more than RM500. That is, if they are quite. If suddenly they ask you travel visa and all? - By the way, within 7 days , if you Laptop has problem , AP seller would not change new set for you, all you can do its pray hard some one willing to replace or repair for you |
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