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 cristal residence @ cyberjaya, another project by villamas @ cyberjaya

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post Jul 3 2013, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jul 3 2013, 03:37 PM)
yup, fully exposed to west sun/morning sun. that's why the tower facing is slightly tilted.

Facing west is not good but some die die must pick west coz "ong" them.

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Highrise everywhere is over supply. Will visit & may consider.

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Jul 3 2013, 11:09 PM)
Wats good?
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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Jul 3 2013, 11:20 PM)
Nowadays to get a reasonable size condo in key loc, one can hardly find lower than 500k. Whether cyberjaya ready for it, it really depends on emigrant or ownstay factors. Those already thinking to move over cyberjaya for ownstay, i guess this look like a gd choice. But i m sure many ll consider mirage n verdi too. But this has cheaper entry price. Without many move in for ownstay in 3 to 4yrs time, u ll see all these bigger size units stuck especially there are already oversupplying students units. This is more for family n ownstay. So if cyber ownstay factor boom then the luck of this sort of dev ll turn...wink.gif.
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Brother MrHunter answered all questions liao.

Buy RM 600k loan RM 300k. Purely rental play. Rental RM 2500 nevermind.

So if cyber ownstay factor boom then the luck of this sort of dev ll turn...wink.gif.
>>> Buying into this factor, target 20% to 30% appreciation only.

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post Jul 6 2013, 10:44 PM

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Wrote on 24/06/2013, discard some content, info & map not as accurate:

Dear, I believe this is a good & value buy:

Cristal Residence @ Cyberjaya:
http://www.iproperty.com.my/developments/d...w.aspx?pid=2920

Why?
1. Time: VP End 2016. The time when 2 surrounding mix development completes:
a) D'Pulze: http://www.dpulze.com/
b) Pan'gaea: http://www.pangaea.com.my/

2. Location: Beside MMU. Within area where most companies located.

3. Price: RM 500+ psf RM 628k+. Fit well for our budget.

4. Product: Best location. 350+ units initial RM 500+ psf. Not many similar product. Competition within Cyberjaya:
http://www.iproperty.com.my/developments/d...w.aspx?pid=2920

a) Mirage by The Lake: Superb response. 400+ units initial RM 500+ psf. Developer asking RM 700+ psf minimum RM 700k+ now.
http://www.iproperty.com.my/developments/d...w.aspx?pid=2002

b) Verdi Eco-dominiums @ Symphony Hills: Slack Sales. 300+ units (Total 800+ but many are small units) initial RM 550+ psf.

c) MCT Lakefront: Not launch yet. 2000+ units initial RM 450+ psf.

d) D'Melor: Old condo RM 400+ psf.
http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

5. Target:
a) [discard]
b) [discard]
c) Cons: Many highrise.

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post Jul 6 2013, 11:19 PM

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Open for sales, official launch Jul 2013 @ Cyberjaya.

Link villa 50 units. Indicate price RM 1.3+ M

Condo Block B Beryl Open for sales:
Beryl? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl

VP End 2016.

Unlike Mirage by The Lake, Cristal Residence link villa owner will pass by condo first, far better for landed owner.

Link villa & condo sharing facilities, including ground & sky facilities, maintenance fee not confirm yet.
1302 sqft comes with 2 tandem parking, 4 airconds, 1 dry kitchen cabinet.

Sales Ok. Sold < 50 units. 1302 sqft type selling fast.

Price?
2nd floor 1302 sqft North West facing Symphony Hills: RM 598k.
23rd floor 1302 sqft North West facing Symphony Hills: RM 632k.
2nd floor 1302 sqft South East facing Putrajaya: RM 639k.
23rd floor 1302 sqft South East facing Putrajaya: RM 666k.

Discount?
Take 2nd floor 1302 sqft North West facing Symphony Hills: RM 598k for example:
RM 10k booking = 10000
10% discount, but owner bear RM 10k down payment: 598000 * 90% = 538200
RM 10k discount, for registered buyer (not sure how to be entitled): 538200 - 10000 = 528200
5% discount, for first 50 buyers: 528200 * 95% = 501790
Discounted Price = 10000 + 501790 = 511790
Price psf: 511790 / 1302 = 393.07 psf

Package:
Interest Subsidy Scheme capped @ 4.5%, like DIBS, u pay 6 months in advance, developer pays u back.
Everything borned by developer, except LOAN stamp duty.


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post Jul 6 2013, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jul 6 2013, 11:19 PM)
Open for sales, official launch Jul 2013 @ Cyberjaya.

Link villa 50 units. Indicate price RM 1.3+ M

Condo Block B Beryl Open for sales:
Beryl? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl

VP End 2016.

Unlike Mirage by The Lake, Cristal Residence link villa owner will pass by condo first, far better for landed owner.

Link villa & condo sharing facilities, including ground & sky facilities, maintenance fee not confirm yet.
1302 sqft comes with 2 tandem parking, 4 airconds, 1 dry kitchen cabinet.

Sales Ok. Sold < 50 units. 1302 sqft type selling fast.

Price?
2nd floor 1302 sqft North West facing Symphony Hills: RM 598k.
23rd floor 1302 sqft North West facing Symphony Hills: RM 632k.
2nd floor 1302 sqft South East facing Putrajaya: RM 639k.
23rd floor 1302 sqft South East facing Putrajaya: RM 666k.

Discount?
Take 2nd floor 1302 sqft North West facing Symphony Hills: RM 598k for example:
RM 10k booking = 10000
10% discount, but owner bear RM 10k down payment: 598000 * 90% = 538200
RM 10k discount, for registered buyer (not sure how to be entitled): 538200 - 10000 = 528200
5% discount, for first 50 buyers: 528200 * 95% = 501790
Discounted Price = 10000 + 501790 = 511790
Price psf: 511790 / 1302 = 393.07 psf

Package:
Interest Subsidy Scheme capped @ 4.5%, like DIBS, u pay 6 months in advance, developer pays u back.
Everything borned by developer, except LOAN stamp duty.
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This is like The HYVE, super value buy for own stay.

Density lower. Location better. Communities better.
Do note developer risk regarding quality.

For highrise own stay @ Cyberjaya, u must not miss this. Good Luck!

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post Jul 6 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Jul 4 2013, 07:42 PM)
Wow. It means cheapest below 400psf?
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jul 6 2013, 11:23 PM)
This is like The HYVE, super value buy for own stay.

Density lower. Location better. Communities better.
Do note developer risk regarding quality.

For highrise own stay @ Cyberjaya, u must not miss this. Good Luck!
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RM 392.31 psf

All old big subsale sales will kena slack for a while.

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post Jul 6 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(ted_tan18 @ Jul 6 2013, 10:09 PM)
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went to the site today... you must go to cristal site...
i checked out symphony hills' Verdi condo. RM570 per sqft average. High density!! 43 floors with 10 units each level. and 2 blocks.

pre-launch already nearing the 50th customer....

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Never go to the site @ Cyberjaya.

Can post photos?

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post Jul 6 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jul 6 2013, 11:00 PM)
Boss, this Cristal is around RM405 psf right, as per earlier thread here? Some more at 12th floor and not the lowest floor. So low low floor below RM400 psf - Jewel, man?

Tempting really as nowadays hardly find new launch at RM400 psf...more so whole project min 1300 sq ft+, not like others mixed with shoe box units...occupants would be mainly family.  

Same like Verde at Ara Damansara, also launch at RM550 psf when surrounding new launches at close to RM650-700 psf, so tempted to book if only got bullet. My friend book one dual key unit 2,100 sq ft at around RM1.1 million. He said very worth it, like buy one 3 rooms unit at RM750k and one 1 room unit at RM350k and get two rental income stream

BUT still cannot overcome the developer past bad record on Atmosfera Puchong and need to be convinced. Because despite the bad publicity they are not taking effort to rectify the defects

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Was offered Verde @ Ara Damansara 1500+ sqft for RM 900k+

Inflated by how much? Fainted.

Cristal Residence buyers will have same concern, but this probably will console:
1. Quality of Serin @ Cyberjaya & Verde @ Ara Damansara
2. Cristal Residence link villa & condo concept, especially launching condo first.

Can't help much. U probably dig from insiders about the quality bah.


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post Jul 8 2013, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(syncronyzer @ Jul 7 2013, 10:20 AM)
Some photos I snapped yesterday at the site  tongue.gif

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TQVM!!!

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post Jul 8 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(syncronyzer @ Jul 7 2013, 06:35 PM)
Did this calculation based on my unit price.. if opt for 80% need to top-up now lor.. but long term wise looks better...
90% looks good because you'll get cash upon VP..hmmm

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Another Nice sharing.

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post Jul 8 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(syncronyzer @ Jul 8 2013, 02:37 PM)
Cyberjaya 9, Jalan Fauna. Next to Serin Residency, behind Symphomy Hills
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Another sales office @ TTDI Plaza.

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QUOTE(syncronyzer @ Jul 9 2013, 08:02 PM)
let's hope with different contractor and architect, Villamas can buck-up and deliver a good job..

Architect: ARCHIMATRIX SDN BHD
Engineer: ATC PERUNDING SDN BHD
Surveyor: JURUKUR MURNI
Mechanical & Electrical: PERUNDING METRIK

Still not sure who is the main-con, which is the key
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Before u buy Cristal Residence, good to read the following:

1. atmosfera: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1033765/
2. Verde: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2555091/
3. Serin: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2271542/

Silent reader Villamas? Please listen...

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post Jul 10 2013, 02:04 PM

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BUMP BUMP BUMP!!!

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2822509

QUOTE(xyyap @ May 23 2013, 02:06 PM)
Welcome to live @ Cyberjaya!

Looking for all Cyberjaya buyers to bump up this thread. Do share information that u feel comfortable.

Age:
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post Jul 10 2013, 08:26 PM

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Cristal Residence @ Cyberjaya

http://www.propcafe.net/cristal-residence-cyberjaya/

Is Condovilla concept works? Well, one can refer to Nadia and Breezeway project at Desa Parkcity and of course, also Mirage of the lake at Cyberjaya. It is definitely better for highrise owner than landed. Why I say so? Normally, demographic and profile of owners will be better for condovilla development than just condo development since there are landed and more expensive properties sit together with condo units. However, according to the developer, the linkvilla owner will only pay maintenance base on the footprint rather than built up, so they will pay similar maintenance fee like condo owners which work well for linkvilla owner there.

Forget about penthouse, basically there are 3 layouts to choose. 1302sf is the intermediate unit which I quite like its layout. 3+1 with two bedrooms that comes with proper sliding door view. Nice rectangle size of living room which looks spacious thanks to its open kitchen (some may not like it). Perhaps if you need wet kitchen, you may “force” it in your yard (smile.gif).

The rest of the layout looks very practical as well with squarish living room (thumbs up). Type B has two balconies and Type C has also two balconies but both can be accessible to each other! Overall, good layout!

Ownstay? If someone is thinking to move over Cyberjaya to be part of a modern city in the making, I think it is a good buy. Give it few more years with amenities are ready, this type of size and concept may fly. There are not many this sort of condominiums around. You can count on GardenView (not doing well though), Mirage of the Lake, Verdi at Symphony Hills, Country Heights Villa there. And that’s it.

Ownstay, I think it is a good buy. However, for investment, there are more research works need to do and of course to have luck as well in 3 years time (hope the above info helps). Good Luck!

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QUOTE(dRwh0 @ Jul 10 2013, 09:20 PM)
Personally i like the layout for cristal..unlike mbtl where they put link villa before going to condo..a bit crowded i think
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Brother, your company @ Cyberjaya or KLIA?

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QUOTE(dRwh0 @ Jul 10 2013, 09:38 PM)
Airport..ard 20 mts drive only..other options are nilai or putrajaya..but not in my consideration..
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I do note that many people working around airport, is staying @ bukit jalil now.

What are the group who prefer to stay @ Cyberjaya?

Any of your colleague interested with this project?

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QUOTE(bluesky_1985 @ Jul 4 2013, 02:37 PM)
Working Location: KLIA
Profession: Airfreight indusrty
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Brother, any of your colleague buying for own stay?


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QUOTE(Kvsual @ Jul 12 2013, 04:31 PM)
has came accross this property today. It looks nice facades design by Archimatrix and kinda like the 1300sf unit layout too and heard alots forumer has purchased it due to easy entry psf~!
However, was interested this until I've read about Villamas previous project reviews, many claims that their workmanship is bad and their management not really responsible to solve the problems for residents.

http://mytotallyproperty.com/blog1/?p=1090

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2136631/+920

I've read some comments, some are commented from villapark residents, serin residences, villamas apart, especially Atmosfera has been criticized by many buyers.

I'm not sure if it's true. just share my findings to anyone.  Try do some research before every purchase, but I do hope Villamas wil tried the best to improve and make this Cristal Residence to be the best among their previous projects.
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jul 10 2013, 12:29 AM)
Before u buy Cristal Residence, good to read the following:

1. atmosfera: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1033765/
2. Verde: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2555091/
3. Serin: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2271542/

Silent reader Villamas? Please listen...
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I posted earlier already.

Anyway Cristal Residence is not for flipper.

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Jul 12 2013, 07:18 PM)
No offence to anyone who is vested...just to share some philosophical thinking solely IMHO and please don't whack me...

If the quality was bad becoz the developer appointed the wrong contractor, that's still acceptable but the counter argument would be shouldn't the developer's project manager supposed to monitor the contractor's work?

So, if a developer found that the contractor's end product work was bad and also fail to perform the rectification, did they not deduct some of the payment due to the contractor?

If payment has been deducted means the profit to the developer increased. Then the developer should be sincere in  using "PART" of the increased profit to appoint a new contractor to perform the rectification work to at least satisfy part of the unhappiness of the purchasers

I think the test here would be to ask the developer the question that if quality of past project has been giving the said developer bad publicity, is the developer not sincere in resolving and rectifying the defects of that past project rather than saying that the past project problem was becoz of the wrong contractor being appointed and for the new project, please be rest assured that that would not happen becoz a different contractor would be appointed...

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If u are one of Villmas ex-project buyer, do share more information, because your comment is too general.

This will help! TQVM!


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QUOTE(Kvsual @ Jul 12 2013, 08:58 PM)
yea i think I got the links from your post. haha
Just sharing after I've found the bad reviews/comments from others on Villamas.  Not sure if it's true or just spams.
Well im not Cristal buyer but interested when found this thread the genuine buyers should do more research on the project especially the developer, not just buybuybuy due to low entry fees.  Cheap things not equal to quality, expensive doesnt mean it's premium products too.

Im lookin for ownstay too, definitely not a flipper.  It's not about flipping, but quality of the workmanship. anyways buyers can just ignore those posts that critisize villamas, and do own researches too.  biggrin.gif
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In fact, I went through all 3 links, & a few search.

Overall, I can feel Villamas project is not top quality, from reviews & photos. Anyway, I also note that there are people who extreme bias.

I believe this concern Cristal Residence buyers. Else, this is really super value for own stay. If u are bumi brother, the price lagi best.


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