
Issue 54- Jagdpanzer Hetzer

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This post has been edited by deathsoul: Apr 3 2014, 12:08 PM
Collectibles DeAgostini The Combat Tanks Collection V3, list & details on pg 1
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Apr 3 2014, 12:04 PM
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Apr 3 2014, 12:12 PM
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Apr 3 2014, 12:49 PM
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Apr 3 2014, 02:05 PM
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Dear Buddies, Due to pocket money constraint, if I I want to buy only 1 issue of the tanks collection, which one is the nicest model of all the tanks ? thank you !!
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Apr 3 2014, 02:23 PM
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which one is the best??
WW2, Tiger Ftw, but i saw hetzer have a nice paint job & alignment on the track. |
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Apr 3 2014, 02:37 PM
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Apr 3 2014, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(TracyL @ Apr 3 2014, 02:37 PM) thanks.. which issue ? the best ? I have money constraints can only choose 1 - the biggest and nicest one .... thanks brothers for guidance... i think u better ask sifu collector here, i just kebetulan lalu saja. My sugesstion is, get the model design u like. for detail u can refer to page 1. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2793900 This post has been edited by limfreelance: Apr 3 2014, 02:41 PM |
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Apr 3 2014, 02:42 PM
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Sifu tank collections.... which issue the best tank model ? I have money constraints can only choose 1 - the biggest and nicest one .... thanks brothers Sifu for guidance..
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Apr 3 2014, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(TracyL @ Apr 3 2014, 02:42 PM) Sifu tank collections.... which issue the best tank model ? I have money constraints can only choose 1 - the biggest and nicest one .... thanks brothers Sifu for guidance.. HI.. have you check on 1st page of the thread? TS already put the name and also the pic..just look at it and choose which one you like.. not everyone here have same favorites tanks..thanks.. |
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Apr 3 2014, 05:01 PM
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Hello there TracyL,
As stated by limfreelance and deathsoul, do check the first post for the list and pics provided by our forumers. While the publication here in Malaysia is still ongoing, you could have a look on the previous ones available last time. You could get some of the previous issues either by getting them directly from AllScript HQ (call first for confirmation, just in case), or maybe someone could offer you a trade/sale if so they wish. One's preference isn't always the same with the others. Have a look, survey on what tank you fancy, and from there you could try and find that particular tank. If there is anything we could do to help, do ask. We would try to lend a hand |
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Apr 3 2014, 05:13 PM
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Woah, TracyL, you're creeping me out D:
Why would you want to buy a "best and nicest" model, if you don't have a favourite in mind Nice Hetzer, I think a 38 (t) might come in a later issue. |
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Apr 3 2014, 06:33 PM
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I am new to tanks collections, there are too many tanks to choose from, will depend on you all polling on votes. Alright will look at early posts, thanks all.
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Apr 3 2014, 07:52 PM
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Also, the largest operational tank is the Char 2C, Maus is second.
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Apr 3 2014, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(Khai62 @ Apr 2 2014, 11:25 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « And Tiger I beat me to it on the weight but those heavy tanks in a grand scale or strategically a nightmare logistically as during WW2 those heavy tanks are using underpowered engine which make them very easy to break down in combat or even in transit, even the famous Tiger I broke down often and need to bring to workshop which is way behind the front line to get it running again. Also need to consider the terrain and road infrastructure since it will hinder their movement either because it too wide to fit on city roads or too heavy to get across a river by bridge. I suggest watching this video. I waiting for someone to do this » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i'm also watch the video already (i'm a WoT player QUOTE(Tiger I @ Apr 2 2014, 11:41 PM) If those megatanks were to be mass produced (consider that the cost is not counted in, which is unlikely), they would be more of a weapons of propagandas and to strike terror into the heart of the enemies. Thanks for the info Even the ones that made it into production, like Tiger I and Tiger II used engine similar to Panther, which makes the two heavy tanks seriously underpowered and plagued with mechanical failures, even more so on the Tiger II. Logistically, a single cost of Tiger I could be used to make around 4 StuG III IINM. Fuel guzzling, difficulties in traversing terrains due to weight, making a heavier tank would be a limiting factor in a battle. But at least they inspire Tigerphobia when it was introduced As for the scene from Girls un Panzer, we need Maus. And Hetzer. Oh CTC, please have Hetzer for our issues QUOTE(Tiger I @ Apr 3 2014, 12:07 AM) With constant bombardment and encrouchment from all sides, their resources is leaking day by day. The thing is, that way of thinking is still can be seen now in German automotive, produce a quality product as compared to quickly make plenty of cheap thing. Not saying that cheap is bad, just look at the abundance of M4 and T-34 as compared to even Panzer IV. But hey, at least their path leads to many breakthrough in designs such as the StG44, Me 262, V2 and the likes. I just got a 1/72 Maus Not forgetting Karl, as promoted recently in WoT As for Maus, there are alternative, but who wouldn't like to get their hands on a MYR 29.90 1/72 Maus? I know I would (I don't think the current size of the case would fit though) I'm also think the Maus 1/72 can't fit in current CTC case (just judge by the look, not by measuring QUOTE(deathsoul @ Apr 3 2014, 12:04 PM) QUOTE(TracyL @ Apr 3 2014, 02:42 PM) Sifu tank collections.... which issue the best tank model ? I have money constraints can only choose 1 - the biggest and nicest one .... thanks brothers Sifu for guidance.. this is a very hard choice actually favourite is personal and not everyone may share the same but if u ask for biggest, i think maybe the jadgtiger/tiger II is biggest in Combat Tank Collection QUOTE(Lots of A Lots @ Apr 3 2014, 07:52 PM) thanks for the info...i'm always think of maus is biggest but it seems a lot more are bigger / much bigger than maus... |
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Apr 4 2014, 12:23 AM
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I wonder,
Can Maus or Ratte outgun a modern MBT? Can a Tiger knock out a T-72? How well will a fleet of Tigers / Panthers / Panzers do fighting a today's war, eg Syrian War? |
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Apr 4 2014, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(zemperor @ Apr 3 2014, 09:58 PM) thanks for the info very much welcome, glad to be of help.i'm also watch the video already (i'm a WoT player Thanks for the info I just got a 1/72 Maus I'm also think the Maus 1/72 can't fit in current CTC case (just judge by the look, not by measuring this is a very hard choice actually favourite is personal and not everyone may share the same but if u ask for biggest, i think maybe the jadgtiger/tiger II is biggest in Combat Tank Collection thanks for the info... i'm always think of maus is biggest but it seems a lot more are bigger / much bigger than maus... QUOTE(lunchtime @ Apr 4 2014, 12:23 AM) I wonder, Tanks of older days wouldn't stand a chance when fighting modern ones, as many of the advantages are with the MBTs today.Can Maus or Ratte outgun a modern MBT? Can a Tiger knock out a T-72? How well will a fleet of Tigers / Panthers / Panzers do fighting a today's war, eg Syrian War? Firepower of MBT is far superior, with myriads of shells used by different tanks such as sabot rounds and depleted uranium, to say the least. The systems used today can acquire target accurately, aim much further and fire faster as compared to the older design. Loading would be faster due to better communication, systems and ergonomics. Rounds could be brought into battle in relative safety (Abrams have stowage outside the crew compartment with blow-off panels that direct the explosion in a relatively safe direction for example). Protection would be a better ones as opposed to what tankers used to rely back in those days. Not only the armor thickness would count, the material itself would also play a role in making sure that the defense is up to par to at least, by theory, to safely protect the tank from harm. Chobham armor, ERA protection, spaced armor to reduce the effect of shaped charge, and many more examples of passive and active protections. The design of tank is also a vital one. Most MBT today have sloped armor (example is Merkava), as opposed to basic shaped design of many earlier tanks (Tiger I, for example). Sloped armor would increase the armor thickness and the chances of opponent's shell to ricochet. Mobility is also in need of consideration. Some MBT design such as Leclerc and T-90 are quite fast as opposed to Challenger and Merkava, for example, but compared to the older ones, they would easily thrive (Hellcat is out of question because they are doctrined as tank destroyer Given the example, I don't think a Tiger could penetrate a T-72, except in prepared condition such as from the flanks. In return, T-72 could easily took out Tiger in ranges even before it could retaliate. But then again, I could be wrong, do correct me though. |
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Apr 4 2014, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(Tiger I @ Apr 4 2014, 01:04 AM) very much welcome, glad to be of help. thanks again for so many info Tanks of older days wouldn't stand a chance when fighting modern ones, as many of the advantages are with the MBTs today. Firepower of MBT is far superior, with myriads of shells used by different tanks such as sabot rounds and depleted uranium, to say the least. The systems used today can acquire target accurately, aim much further and fire faster as compared to the older design. Loading would be faster due to better communication, systems and ergonomics. Rounds could be brought into battle in relative safety (Abrams have stowage outside the crew compartment with blow-off panels that direct the explosion in a relatively safe direction for example). Protection would be a better ones as opposed to what tankers used to rely back in those days. Not only the armor thickness would count, the material itself would also play a role in making sure that the defense is up to par to at least, by theory, to safely protect the tank from harm. Chobham armor, ERA protection, spaced armor to reduce the effect of shaped charge, and many more examples of passive and active protections. The design of tank is also a vital one. Most MBT today have sloped armor (example is Merkava), as opposed to basic shaped design of many earlier tanks (Tiger I, for example). Sloped armor would increase the armor thickness and the chances of opponent's shell to ricochet. Mobility is also in need of consideration. Some MBT design such as Leclerc and T-90 are quite fast as opposed to Challenger and Merkava, for example, but compared to the older ones, they would easily thrive (Hellcat is out of question because they are doctrined as tank destroyer Given the example, I don't think a Tiger could penetrate a T-72, except in prepared condition such as from the flanks. In return, T-72 could easily took out Tiger in ranges even before it could retaliate. But then again, I could be wrong, do correct me though. |
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Apr 4 2014, 10:29 PM
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Comparing with Dragon Models....
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Apr 4 2014, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(Tiger I @ Apr 4 2014, 11:34 PM) doesn't even come close Yes the two Shermans are different - the dragon is M4A4even the shermans have to take some losses getting around panther and tiger those two shermans are of different version right? the dragon's is of a2, no? http://www.dragon-models.com/d-m-item.asp?pid=DRR60284 |
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