found an interesting listing in Lelong

http://www.lelong.com.my/hot-selling-muoge...7-01-Sale-I.htm

the cover and outside case looks exactly like Pineng's but they are not using 18650 batteries.

they allegedly use superior Korean li-po cells.

brand is MUOGE, but I can't find any legit links to this brand in google search.

hmm

yeap, it impossible. just sharing to warn people.

30k/2.6k is 11.++. the enclosure would need to be twice as long or thicker to accomodate those cells.

i bought a PN910 from a friend who went to china for a short trip. ordered straight from their website, and s/n checked alright. but haven't collected the powerbank from him.

interesting info in your thread. esp with regards to the grade of cells used in Pineng's powerbank.

are you using the exact enclosure and circuit boards with only the battery cells changed?

in pineng website, they say that the in input is 5v/2a, but yours is 1a max. so actually, even the Pineng units accept 1A max only?

but then again, higher A may lead to faster deterioration of the cells.

edit:

also, i found an interesting link of testing done on different brands of 18650 cells

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/...mmary%20UK.html

This post has been edited by azrash: Dec 11 2013, 09:57 PM

not sure why, this is double posted

This post has been edited by azrash: Dec 11 2013, 09:56 PM

ha. pineng malaysia site shows the input as 1~2A

but their listing at their official tmall site, shows input as DC 5v/1a (well at least i think so, i can't read mandarin )
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10...&id=20340460253

oh well, i'll test the charging time it'll take from 0-100 once i get the powerbank
why not try AllnGap's powerbank? he is using Pineng enclosure with Samsung cells, or you can customise to your specs too, from him.

most powerbank should be compatible to most smartphones. they can even charge older phones as long as you have the connector. so no worries there.

IINM, battery cells degrade even when you don't use it. So might want to avoid older brands or models. as far as i know, Sanyo has been bought over by Panasonic. and the famous 5200 mAh booster that Sanyo used to sell is being rebranded as Panasonic's, with wireless charging too. so try to get the newer batches from Panasonic instead of getting the old Sanyo mobile booster. I still see the AA and AAA eneloop NiMh being sold, i am not sure whether panasonic is killing off that brand or maintain the brand as it is already quite famous.
True. and to be honest, the prices of these powerbanks that are mostly made in china is very cheap there. Problem is, even the fake ones looks exactly the same if you were to put it next to the original ones. it is much safer if you were to order from their official online store. normally listed in their official website. eg are Pineng etc. and these are normally quite recent batches, since they are straight from manufacturer, unless you choose the older models.

of course these china brands, the quality won't be A grade like Samsung Panasonic etc. but they should be adequate for average use for 2 years etc.

like w00t said, DIY is a good route too, since you can roughly test the age of the cells. but if that is too cumbersome, there are traders like AllnGap that sells his DIY powerbanks that use A grade cells by Samsung. and the price is fair in my opinion. reputable china brands powerbank are sold at similar price in malaysia.

personally, i am using Pineng's one, bought by a friend from China, straight from their official online store. it has been a few months and it still hold good capacity.


and of course, general rule is the true capacity is roughly 0.7 of the rated capacity. which for my 11200 mAh Pineng is 0.7*11200=7840. and this is true, as it can charge my N4(2100 mAh) roughly almost four times of full charge.

It is fine. The phone will limit the current anyway. I have the same model and I use 2.1 A port because with 1A, somehow I am only getting 0.6A for my phone, with 2.1A port, I get the max, 0.8+A. If you are using Android you can check this via battery monitor widget.

Managed to get one during this week's sale. It shipped out from HK this afternoon and then dropped by to Taiwan around 6 PM, and as of now, it has just departed from Philippines. Perhaps the shipment is including shipment for orders to these two countries too. Or maybe Cost saving route by UPS. Hopefully it'll be in Malaysia by tomorrow(Friday)

The route is quite funny though. Since Shenzhen is right next to HK. Mine just arrived in Sepang this morning 9 am. Don't know whether they'll deliver it to the house today or tomorrow.

Actually, even if you have to pay for the extra shipping free, it'll be probably still be cheaper than buying the Xiaomi Powerbank fro elsewhere. Also there is an abundance of fake Xiaomi powerbank too, so I wouldn't mind the extra delivery charge as it is the real deal.

Plus, it is still much much cheaper than buying other reputable brands in Malaysia. It is still cheaper than buying Pineng powerbank directly from their website in China too, as you'll be paying only RM 43.50 per unit.

That being said, I think they'll skip off the delivery charges.

Xiaomi is better than my pineng powerbank at charging my mobile phone when I use it for navigation. With Xiaomi, the phone manage to charge even though heavy on GPS. On Pineng, it only slow down the discharging rate, so most likely it is not as high ampere as Xiaomi maybe. Both are original. 10400 mAh each. Another plus point is it is smaller than Pineng, but has only one USB port.

Try to lookup at mudah. They are still cheaper than other original brand powerbank.

Watch out for fakes, easy to recognise with this guide, http://en.miui.com/thread-19104-1-1.html

The colour of the USB ports a bit different on the fake ones.

Even fake ones has hard plastic casing as well. This is a more definitive guide,http://en.miui.com/thread-19104-1-1.html

Have not yet encountered fake ones on mudah.

xiaomi's powerbank is still the best in my opinion. they have not made any online sales for quite some time, so be careful if you are purchasing from a 3rd party. there are links that show how to differentiate the fake ones.

I have a Pineng powerbank bought by a friend through tmall. so it is original. xiaomi's amperage is more stable, and the size is more compact. i'll stick to xiaomi for quality though, and panasonic/sanyo.

too many poor quality or fake ones being rebranded and sold as other brands in the market.

last time, buying two 10400k units will get you free shipping. now you still need to add another item to get free shipping

This post has been edited by azrash: Feb 23 2015, 09:15 AM

why not get one from xiaomi? they are having open order now. no need to wait for tuesday sales. I have Pineng as well, but i prefer xiaomi's build quality and charging rate on the mi is more stable.

http://www.mi.com/my/mipowerbank/

10.4k is great for big capacity
the 5k one is a pocketable version. i use this more.