i got myself a new pair of neuton 225/45/17 tire to replace my old rear tires on friday.

last night, this happen:



it kinda broke my heart (new tire plus my body ache, original jack broken because i placed it on soft ground). so i just need to know. what could be the reason eh?

*where did technical talk subforum go?

This post has been edited by grim.fandango: Apr 28 2013, 07:14 AM

I think u can try to claim warranty? Even if they dont at least they will tell u what causes it.

I thought this one should be in Tyre Talk section?
You can check some of my posting over there. I have suggested other alternative brand for people asking for opinion on Neuton.
My friend's bad experience alone, this is not the first time I have seen such Neuton. Thanks God you're fine as its hard to imagine if this happened at very high speed.
Being a new tyre, it's look more like a manufacturer defect to me. Just look at the damaged line. Sharp object piercing does not cut this proper. Rim looks okay so acceptable driving speed when this occur (personal opinion unless the tyre shop arguments below apply ).
No warranty though as they will argue you driven the car on muddy road even though its just driven over a grass on the roadside during rainy day.
Other argument is prior to the damage, you may run that inner sidewall on potholes or rough side. Or suddenly swerve to the asphalt edge at high speed<<<Tyre shop's arguments point as usual.
I know most tyre shop will pump at least 240 or even 250kpa on new tyres. I usually pump higher kpa after run in period.

Wow...what kinda Neuton is this? I'm using neuton nt8000 so far very good & the best bang for buck I ever spend. Comfort & mid performance tire.

Look worst sidewall no cast with steel inside.

the most i was pushing it within the 36 hours timeframe is 110km/h. the mud was only there because when i felt that there is something wrong my wheel, i emergency parked my car in grassy area and it was raining a bit.

you're right. called the shop and their argument is exactly as what you have commented. sigh.

yeah, i kinda feel that way too. but i don't expect it to shred open just after 36 hours.

Soo....Neuton not recommended?

i won't go with either nexen/neuton, seen too many horror stories

rather pay more for rubber than risk my life while i speed

But but but but....cheap wor

if your life is cheap, ok also.

What's the manufacturing date on the tyre? Overdue maybe? Plus "what's the retail price on one of those?"

I Googled it and found it to be American tyre company so that reminds me of the infamous Firestone incident.

google harder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YHI_International_Limited
Singaporean

Well the first hit on Neuton tyres was Neuton Tyre USA so i presume it was USA.

i was a solid believer in nexen n8000 and up to today..i am still. i have shifted to d5 good year f1's because of a single fact - NEVER EVER SKIMP on tires for your precious car.


That's the only thing that holds the car and using cheap tires like neuton or ATR sport is just asking for trouble if u are a high speeder - ie 100kmh and above. there is no mesh on the sidewall for support and always...almost always the sidewall will give way

i was on goodyear asy f1 before.

yeah, i must admit the "it is cheap and what can go wrong with a piece of rubber" sentiment got me last friday.

i'm opening this just to get comment on whether the cause for what happened is cheap tire and not manufacturer defect.

from the looks of it it seems that is is manufacturing defect. and that's the thing with cheaper tires, they may be prone to more defects/issues due to cheaper materials used, cheaper quality control etc

I suggest you go to consumer tribunal and lodge a case against the tyre shop claiming material defect and CC the letter to the mfg.

Consumer tribunal is heavily biased to consumer anyway so your odd of wining is very high

But be quick, you only got 7 days from date of purchase

1013. i don't think it is overdue.

I don't have the exact localize statistic but even the tofu sidewall Forceum is more reliable than the low range Neuton. Forceum become bulging and
flex like hell but not exploding like your case.
We know what to expect from tyre shops. Reason why I only used cheap tyres which is proven to survive during drift abuse. Even then, its still down to luck
but lesser gamble on proven brand.

Not recommended as too many same case happened on Neuton. Nexen N8000 is okay but not the lower range.
For those really tight on budget, can consider the noisy Achilles ATR Sports instead. Make sure to check the inner sidewall more often after 30k km.

no matter how i look at it, it seems like u causes it.
anyway, my 2 days old continental cc5 come along with the new elantra also burst on 2nd day. all i did was cornering at 60km/h, masuk medium sized potholes, and wa lah, both left side tyre front and rear pecah

exact same damage like yours, only that mine was cut open on the outside

good for you as both of yours GG.

my 2 years old asy f1 at the front escaped unscathed. well, maybe i was driving to slow at that time as only one tire was affected.

there are cases of nexen blowing out clean as well and there are few posts/threads complaining about it.

for me it looks like the tire no pressure ald then u drive for a distance
so there is a mark at the sidewall there

normally tire warranty doesnt cover sidewall damage , so pls dont go argue with the tire shop
they r seller and installer , if come to claim u need to sent back to supplier place!
u can ask tire shop guy sent to claim and wait the report

but tire is wear n tear item , normally b4 tire busted tire will bulg first ,unless the impact /sharp object kena ur tire

Yes. I have replied on those tread too. that is why I only suggest the N8000 as my personal experience on with it had been encouraging in term of reliability and price. Trashed many units of N8000 and it survived. I will stay away from the Nexen CP series which it shared with Roadstone though.
As for the Neuton, friends blow a couple of NT8000 on the run with severe damage on the rim . My only set of NT5000 had the sidewall wear out while the tread is still 80%. And I don't even use it for the touge.
Its still a mystery how the outside sidewall wear out on (-) setting with 34psi and very healthy fender clearance

Sifu has answered .
To clarify the theory, the whole tyre need to be inspected for many tiny horizontal or vertical lines formed in the process.
Ya, no point arguing, just ask the tyre shop to return the damaged tyres to main supplier for post mortem. Hopefully, able to claim warranty.
Eh, thank you for the good service. I always come to your shop discreetly. So far, one of the best around

i didn't mean to offend anyone.

i am sure that if it is punctured, i would feel the slight wobbly but no. it just wobbled and i immediately emergency parked my car.

yes, i was a bit upset that night & the following morning but come to realized that seller has nothing to do with this. i have accepted that it is an expensive lesson to be learned. i have punctured my asy f1 a couple of times and none of the incident shred it useless.

i can only say that this is the last time i'm going with cheap tires.

This post has been edited by grim.fandango: Apr 29 2013, 07:59 AM

Will you consider to use higher profile tire with smaller rim? It might degrade handling and it does not look nice, but i think it helps for cushioning pot-holes.

eh you also a regular? been a regular for over a year already lolz

maybe someday we can meet at his shop LOL!

Just go back to the shop and tell him off...wth...you lost control of the car and the tires nearly killed you...1 day + tires also can be like that meh...unless you hit something than differentlah..

After showing angry face I'm sure they change it for you...

i doubt

I think lyn forumers had reported a few cases of neuton/nexen tires exploded, craft, kembang and etc.

summon cybermaster in to explain his bad experience . Not sure his is nexen or neuton...

nexen

Cheap tyre for spirited driving is a definite no. Add 50 more on top of the cheap indonesia or china made tyre to satisfy your enthusiasm and safety precaution together.

it looks like you drive through something sharp than caused a deep cut line there. DId you drive through any pothole?

morning bro, im first time using neuton, previously on achilles.. (yeah im a budget user ),

do u still have ur tyre with u? did u cleaned it and photograph it? only after cleaning, dry, we are able to pinpoint ( like CSI )

Wow... Not sure what to say


So far mine , 4 pcs seems fine. Front 2 pcs clocked @ 4k mileage in 2 months , thread all byebye already.

Did you check your tyre pressure after installed?

planning to change ATR Sport but the shop got no stock, Nexen also no stock. So ordered 2 pcs NT8000 and try again, this time with correct camber and alignment

This post has been edited by unknownhammie: Apr 30 2013, 01:15 PM

TS, 2 pages of replies but problem not solved, you should have seek for alternative solution already.

best if you complain directly to the the neuton dealer/distributor, dont be afraid of hassle, its your hard earned cash.
deal with them and let us know the outcome.

http://neutontyre.com.sg/?page_id=4

Evo-Trend Corporation (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd
Lot 32-B1, Jalan 5/32A Off 6 ½ miles,
Jalan Kepong, Kepong Industrial Area,
52100 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
T (60) 3 6257 1333
F (60) 3 6257 7393
E kmtham@evotrend.com

HTH, GL.

4,000 km all threads worn off is totally NOT ok unless yours are talking about semi-slick or slick.
neuton really that bad?

you just don't know how he drive

opss...

For the record :

3 laps in Elite Highway go-kart track
5-6 Time ulu yam half hill up and down
2 time Ulu Yam all the way till Genting

Most of time hard cornering on normal road


I guess above statement , you will know how fast it worn out. I guess normal driving shouldnt be an issue.

MY friend on PErsona , 10k mileage still nice thread.

I also budget tire user....but budget means premium used tires...

For the price of a new nexen...can get top of the line tires thats about 80% above usage.
Get only those 2010 above....but most of used tires I buy, the rubber harden a bit, its gonna be rowdy for the first 1K Km...
Do check the tire strictly especially the inner parts. Sometimes need to use torch light (handphone light also OK) to check it. Check for sidewall damage and cracks, sidewall must have No damage.....If got 1 puncture patch in the middle tread still OK.

But thats me...

This post has been edited by azbro: Apr 30 2013, 02:11 PM

Tried that .. RE001 / dunlop sport sp01 .. finish fast.. lol

salute!
crazy taxi spotted

nice info though...

Agreed
It make more sense to track down good premium used tyre than brand new low end tyre
Save running cost by a lot for car that need 17"+ tyre

Yes, 17s tires cost above RM600 new each....X 5 (usually, the spare is also bulging!..thx to potholes) is RM3K!
Then, when you are driving, go into another pothole...there goes another tire!

But I'm not promoting used stuff....this is my personal choice
Used tires also got problems like rubber harden, rowdy, dun have that 'new' feeling, finish faster etc
But after 1 months the tires will set in and feels better

Of course buying new prime branded tires is the prefered (if got the money)

This post has been edited by azbro: Apr 30 2013, 03:59 PM

salute... how you feel the tire new or not? as in driving feel.... not talking about u molesting the rubber...

This post has been edited by unitron: Apr 30 2013, 04:28 PM

If you don't intend to skimp on quality,a 17" willl be like RM600~RM700
For spare,just put compressor + tyre patch kit
Good used 17" tyre is just like ~RM250 per pieces,total like 1k

Had a few months old continental tyre that suddenly bulge out, complaint to them and in the end, as goodwill, I was given a new tire.

This post has been edited by Andy0625: Jun 7 2013, 12:32 AM

Been using Achilles ATR Sport for about 7 months and travelled roughly 14,000 - 18,000 km on it.
And mostly highway driving and long distance, 130 - 170 kmh is common.
Reading this thread, now im worried with my tires.

Any suggestions for good, not so expensive tires for 15" ?