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jasonloh7906
post Apr 29 2013, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 29 2013, 06:22 PM)
Rear left side. sad.gif Why la spoil here spoil there. Waste my time. Want to take out the lamp also hard cause the lamp fight back.
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is time for super LED brake lamp XD

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few day din come tengok sudah new thread. sweat.gif
jasonloh7906
post Apr 29 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 29 2013, 11:09 PM)
not bad. can sell besi buruk and buy. hahaha.
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post Apr 30 2013, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 30 2013, 04:56 PM)
Auto M-line? Without rear disc brakes and 1.6 brake pump, your brakes are gonna suck anyway. Change brake pads, that's the cheapest solution to a bit more bite from your brakes. Otherwise you can go the expensive way, splurge 5-6k on a full set front & back disc brake (halfcut), or up to 10k for a set of Wilwood front & rear oversized disc brakes. whistling.gif

Here for more info if you have the moolah:

Click Me. Wilwood matafakaaaaa

Come to think of it it's quite cheap for anyone who need a boost in braking. 3 pairs of brake pads with conversion front brakes to 4 pots and oversized disc. Worth it. hmm.gif

Brake pads for wilwood/high performance around RM 250 per pair = RM 750. Brake rotor already RM 600 minimum for a pair.
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tak nampak harga pun? only see negotiable.
brembo boleh kah XD
atau endless.


QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 30 2013, 06:43 PM)
But mythology got vibration dampener sad.gif.

Bought a new bulb for my rear headlamp. RM3, Osram brand. Shop still can give option to choose sammore, RM1 for china brand, RM3 for German brand but made in Thailand unsure.gif. Bought 4 bumper clips, but they aren't actually the right size. The clip doesn't go all the way down but it's tight, so I used it anyway. I think I'll go hammer it down a little to make sure it's tighter than it is now. brows.gif. RM1.5 per piece.
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vibration damper that makes ur car feel like no LCP. hahaha.
jasonloh7906
post Apr 30 2013, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 30 2013, 08:39 PM)
You ada duit, can afford the custom rotor bracket, you mau china punya Brembao pun boleh. Heck, don't say Endless. I give you Infinity.
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hahaha, saja je. I suka endless punya warna biru. wilwood silver pun ok lah.
but 3600 if front and back then worth XD

QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 30 2013, 08:46 PM)
Will get laffed at or not for getting such a brake kit but engine talak oomph unsure.gif
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tak apa punya. their engine omphh, but they brake early mah, ur engine not omphh but brake later, arrive at the corner at the same time. hahaha.

QUOTE(Manlet @ Apr 30 2013, 08:49 PM)
3600 can get turbo charger liao

and then fit it in yourself can save labour cost

and then fit a paracute behind your car so that you can stop efficiently
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3600? I can do my muffler, do soundproof, add in amp for my GM, change HU, add subwoofer. sudah cantik. no need upgrade, drive slow slow but can enjoy.

QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 30 2013, 08:53 PM)
I will laugh at people that gets turbo engine without proper brakes, like the one im about to shoot below.
Lan ah 3.6k get turbo charger? ECU + turbine pun tarak cukup la.
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hahaha, his car edi got tebu, he should get brakes.

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post Apr 30 2013, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 30 2013, 09:06 PM)
Cannot. laugh.gif 16 inch I think can. 18 inch people fitting 330mm.
So senang? That's only the turbine lettew. Ada check ECU standalone berapa? Ada check turbo manifold + exhaust berapa? Custom pistons? Boostmeters? BoV?
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tu lah. cannot fit. so i can only masuk brembo standard rotor + better brake pad.
is it BOV a must?
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post May 1 2013, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 30 2013, 09:13 PM)
He no need to get brakes cos his stock brakes good enough. Our brakes macam jibet. Trust me, RM 3600 for front for these kind of performance brakes damn cheap d. Front and back, good branded brakes like Brembo & other brands can go up to RM 20k a set.
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true. preve brake should be good enuf.
so far I am still ok with my brake. especially after changing brake pad. those so high end one dun feel like putting in persona.

QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 30 2013, 09:15 PM)
Damn I thought RM3600 is for front and back rclxub.gif.
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can get for half cut.

QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 30 2013, 09:15 PM)
BOV is to release pressure buildup after each session of throttling. It is there to prevent the compressor from surging, and to prevent excessive wear on the turbine.
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BOV can be silent also rite?
like most of the original from factory one.

QUOTE(ckdenion @ May 1 2013, 01:48 AM)
hong leong yamaha u mean? hmm.gif
15" or 16" R3?
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15'' R3 :
http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/58...73d65dcadc5.jpg
jasonloh7906
post May 1 2013, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ May 1 2013, 02:10 AM)
BOVs are normally noisy cause people like hearing the pffstscchshthst sound. I no really rike it though sad.gif.
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depends. sometimes mood good, hearing it quite shiok.

QUOTE(racekiddo @ May 1 2013, 02:15 AM)
15'' R3 :
http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/58...73d65dcadc5.jpg

Bro, not this as this one is the older model.
I'm getting their newer version - 4 big holes, and 4 small holes, not 8 big holes as per your link.

hehehe....

This one:
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-p...711651696_n.jpg
To me personally, i think it looks nicer & more refined than the older version.
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=510...&type=3&theater
this one lor?
should be.
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post May 1 2013, 02:26 AM

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hmm, so, it seems like driving above 140km/h also fc high a bit only. sometimes same like when i drive 110km/h. Still assuming it may be due to weather. cold weather, with aircond at higher temperature and also air suck in by engine colder seems to give better fc also. maybe i should always consider night driving.
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post May 1 2013, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(stupidcar @ May 1 2013, 02:26 AM)
Guys, any of u guys have problem cranking/starting up your Persona?
Mine just 1 years old. All stock. After 5k service, feels hard to start up the car. It starts but need to crank abit. :\
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how many crank it is? sometimes it may just be fuel.
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post May 7 2013, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 7 2013, 11:40 AM)
but my city drive without jam also average 13.8L which is more than urs Jammed. I drive between 30-80km/h.

highway my mileage still worse than urs.

mine is M-line Manual.
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manual ah? kena train LC2K driving style. if you say u tekan sikit a traffic light, then that where u consume the most petrol. after ur car gain speed baru tekan will consume lesser petrol than when u are still at standstill.
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post May 7 2013, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 7 2013, 05:25 PM)
I read from the first page that Shell engine oil is no good? Which one is recommended? Please advise.
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shell engine oil is good. but not for persona. reason we don't know.
but the engine oil seems to become dark very fast (if old engine, it may show good as it means the detergent is cleaning the engine, however even in brand new engine, the engine oil darken very fast)
also seems to have slightly more poor performance and not that smooth. if u can actually feel it.
anyway, that first page is dinasaur era till now. a lot of info are updated which if u need it, ask. it is not provided in first page. hahaha
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post May 7 2013, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 7 2013, 06:31 PM)
hello all sifus here, please advise on car maintenance esp the first 3 free service at proton sc. need to bring own engine oil? which suitable? hw abt oil filter?

thx thx.. appreciate it.
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first 3 service, just go sc and say u want service. don't think they allow own engine oil. everything should buy there i think.
what is needed will be engine oil, oil filter, gasket drain plug. not needed such magnatrap, X1R.
if i remember correctly, 3rd service 10k I changed gear oil and air filter also.

QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 7 2013, 06:36 PM)
Okie.. Which engine oil you'd recommend? Where to get from? Still waiting fr my car.. normally edar gives how many service? warranty? I forgot to ask just now sleep.gif paid d/p and waiting fr loan approval only. swt..
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recommended engine oil? In this thread: Caltex Havoline, Cusco, Castrol, Liquidmoly, Rock oil, Eneos. Mitsubishi pun ada. Not to say is best, but reviews from user are: better than the SC common engine oil which is shell/petronas.
standard 3 free service for 10k km.
warranty standard is 50k km/2 years. maybe got free extended then will be 100k km/5 years.
most parts have limited warranty and also no warranty.
eg: exhaust system 1 year(you can change them after one year XD)

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post May 7 2013, 06:51 PM

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experimenting for higher highway speed/lower highway speed effect on highway fc. airconds/weather seems to have quite some effect when combined with speed.
two tanks of experiment shows almost no significant increase in fc between my constant 110km/h and unconstant speed of 110-150km/h.
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post May 7 2013, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 7 2013, 06:55 PM)
means after the 10k I can go service at any centres without voiding the warranty rite? just cannot modify those covered parts eg exhaust like u said? hahax. any  semi sync engine oil recommended as above also ok? hehe. last time bought 2nd hand car nvr cared also, jz go to service centre recommended by friend's dad and that's it. per service i think around 120RM. but that car i skidded at tapah n nw filing fr total loss claim. duno dapat or not.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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after 10k still must go to sc. if u go outside service, then no more warranty. to be reasonable, modifying exhaust system only meant no more warranty on exhaust system. but proton which also know as potong, u change apa pun can void warranty. there is case where, pasang light at the keyhole there sudah void warranty. very pro.
if u are very scared of ur car will break down and wanted to claim warranty, please tahan itchy for 2years until ur warranty over only do any mod.
engine and gearbox is the most crucial if it break down and u wanna claim warranty. if no more warranty ur engine/gearbox break down....then.....
unless u just fck warranty and just start mod after u get ur car like ckdenion

few thing u will realise from the car that most ppl are not satisfied when the car is new/stock
1) car have poor pickup
2) car fuel consumption high
3) braking power is very very very bad(not applicable for h-line)
4) throttle lag
5) rear speaker is loud but front nothing
6) headlamp not bright enuf
7) rattling sound
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post May 7 2013, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ May 7 2013, 08:43 PM)
Apa cina mau???? Balik tongsan la
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mahu buang besi buruk lah.

QUOTE(dares @ May 7 2013, 08:43 PM)
denion did not fck warranty after getting his car. In fact he made the mother of all warranty claims before he fck warranty  laugh.gif
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haha, bcoz the quality so bad, he fck warranty. lol

QUOTE(flex3x @ May 7 2013, 08:53 PM)
You can also feel your car's power is lesser when switch on the aircon  smile.gif  smile.gif
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no wor. tarak feel. coz pakai LCP. hahahaha. with GC. tarak feel.

QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 7 2013, 09:01 PM)
2) car fuel consumption high ---> OMG?  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif any solution to this?

3) braking power is very very very bad ---> there's only standard model now.. HOW? @@''

5) rear speaker is loud but front nothing ---> need mod then?  moneyflies.gif  moneyflies.gif

7) rattling sound ---> any solution?  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif
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fc high? depends on how high and how u drive lah.
braking bad? basic one is use high performance pad but compromise a bit on noisy sound when braking.
standard no front speaker rite? pasang lah XD
rattling sound? tengok mana ada tikus, u tangkap lah sendiri atau bayar orang untuk tangkap.
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post May 7 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 7 2013, 10:13 PM)
Hahahx.. Praying hard my car comes in perfect condition. lolx

I wanted to go for Preve but 1st batch.. Hmmm
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should get saga SE at the price of persona standard.
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post May 8 2013, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 7 2013, 10:22 PM)
You serious or joking?.. @@''
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well, why saga SE?
1) Stylish with full bodykit and 15'' alloy rims
2) 1.6 engine with CVT
3) 200+/- kg lighter than persona
4) ABS + EBD
5) bcoz of 2 and 3, much better fc.
6) more spacious legroom at the rear
7) stiffer suspension for better handling. if u actually notice, at the old gen BLM, when u are fetching full load, u will see the rear go down

if persona got h-line still ok. like i said, other specs the pros and cons are:
1) heavy body of 1200+kg for 1.6 coupled with 30% power loss 4AT. (manual will be better in term of power)
2) bcoz of 1 fc becomes bad especially when u start and stop at traffic light
3) however bcoz of 1, the stability at high speed is super good and barely noticeable when the car is new. mine 3 year+ edi starting to have some sound.
4) multilink suspension, can corner nicely.

QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 7 2013, 10:47 PM)
Copied from ckdenion's performance mod:

4. Hotbits 4-2-1 Extractor
5. Wegow 12" Swirl Bullet
6. 5zigen S-flow Muffler

How does it improve the performance? In terms of pickup, FC? Englighten meeee ^^
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performance yes. fc not really significant to break even.

QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 7 2013, 11:51 PM)
Entire Range? Until red zone? Crazy ar? lolx. Or hit entire range on neutral?  rclxub.gif
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u think red zone will spoil the car? not really, coz it wont hit red.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ May 8 2013, 11:05 AM)
f*** grik road, newly tarred road and there this a deep hole in the middle,
yesterday was travelling from tm(kelantan)-grik-kuala kangsar->ipoh->kl..
both cars were trailing closely behind a tanker and i was trailing behind the other car too.., we were waiting to pass the tanker..then all of a sudden, jatuh into deep hole...
after we made a stop, i could see my steel rim becomes flat at the lips..but still no vibaration when driving, just annoying vibration when braking from both side of the tyres....

the other car which rides on  sport rim wearing 215/45/17 tyres also becomes flat on the lips(talk about expensive original rims)...
now looking for a cheap 15inch rim...anyone want to sell? haha..
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is time to change rims. ini kalilah.
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post May 8 2013, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(stupidcar @ May 8 2013, 02:14 PM)
Bro ur CF hood how much ah?
So leng.
Cold start( really really cold ) never exceed 1.
I expect is the ECU. But i don't get Drive-By-Wire yet.
Still don't how the computer work things out.
If i understand completely dy, i will work it out.
I kena X1-R on the 3rd service. sad.gif
I heard Caltex is good is it? As in it smoothen the engine.
I think I heard form you guys.  hmm.gif
Exhaust also i heard, just change branded extractor is good enough.
If you don't want loud. haha.

Allll info gather from forum one!
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really cold start ur rpm should be at above 1k rpm wor.
caltex is smooth, clean, and quiet.
extractor also quite loud. u see mine before and after installation. the sound is rclxub.gif
plan to pasang the center part edi.
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post May 8 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(stupidcar @ May 8 2013, 02:29 PM)
Dunno weh. Mine sometime will jump to 1.2
but when I wait for it, it just stays at 1.
Which Caltex is it? The model?
Hmm, the noise-delete level should be starting from the mid part isn't it?
That's where the noise cancel off each other.
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cold start 1.2 will drop till 900 at ideal temp.
caltex semi 10w40, fully 5w40. the only 2 i used before.
not sure about the noise delete.

QUOTE(gcooi90 @ May 8 2013, 02:51 PM)
Hehe thanks for the extensive and nice information.

Persona only got Standard model now. Hmm.. X ada pilihan!

By the way, hitting 0-110 kmph with 1-7k RPM really necessary? As to let the engine break in? Hmm
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some info say yes. some say dun.
i remember someone posted this :
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

well, mine I can't do anything edi since old. if got new car, I will try and see.

i think this is the short one : The best method is to alternate between short bursts of hard acceleration and deceleration.
which I tried to understand what it means, i went to try with my car, not to break in my car lah. mine either way, had been done in easy break in.
but he do have good reasons. and he recommends to hard break in, after you do it, change the oil immediately. dun wait for the 1k service. which I still can see the reason behind it where i believe cavino had almost similiar reason to change the oil as frequent as possible.
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post May 8 2013, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ May 8 2013, 04:50 PM)
They allow 1k servicing a few hundred KM before 1K ke hmm.gif
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why not? later on cost u pay mah.
btw, is up to u to decide how u want to break in lah. the page is just a reference.

QUOTE(mengsuan @ May 8 2013, 05:00 PM)
They allow service at any mileage you request, it doesn't cost them extra. Just owner's own cost.

I have the chance again, I will drive my car harder when new, I think I didn't break in early enough.
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