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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.20, Nikon when you fix the D600 dust gate!?

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post Apr 29 2013, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 29 2013, 02:08 PM)
RM 1800 for which version ? V1 or V2 ?
If V1, very expensive laugh.gif
And Ken Rockwell sucks. Don't even bother to read his review.
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Sometimes he is very weird based on what he wrote!
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post Apr 29 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 29 2013, 02:08 PM)
RM 1800 for which version ? V1 or V2 ?
If V1, very expensive laugh.gif
And Ken Rockwell sucks. Don't even bother to read his review.
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V2 lah ! V1 is rm1600 like that... biggrin.gif

go check DXO mark and the others lo... the 11-16 really good lah comapre to the 12-24 and 10-24... unless u wanna go for the 14-24

check out DXO mark

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Co...r/(camera3)/440

if u really say u dont trust DXO mark, then i oso duno what reference can give u d @@
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DxO is fine. Not Ken Rockwell tongue.gif

Ken Rockwell "facts"

Ken Rockwell is the Chuck Norris of photography

Ken Rockwell's camera has similar settings to ours, except his are: P[erfect] Av[Awesome Priority Tv[Totally Awesome Priority] M[ajestic]

Ken Rockwell doesn't color correct. He adjusts your world to match his.

Sure, Ken Rockwell deletes a bad photo or two. Other people call these Pulitzers.

Ken Rockwell doesn't adjust his DOF, he changes space-time.

Circle of confusion? You might be confused. Ken Rockwell never is.

Ken Rockwell doesn't wait for the light when he shoots a landscape - the light waits for him.

Ken Rockwell never flips his camera in portrait position, he flips the earth

Ken Rockwell ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one.

Ken Rockwell is the only person to have photographed Jesus; unfortunately he ran out of film and had to use a piece of cloth instead.

When Ken Rockwell brackets a shot, the three versions of the photo win first place in three different categories

Before Nikon or Canon releases a camera they go to Ken and they ask him to test them, the best cameras get a Nikon sticker and the less good get a Canon sticker

Once Ken tested a camera, he said I cant even put Canon on this one,thats how Pentax was born

Rockwellian policy isn't doublethink - Ken doesn't even need to think once

Ken Rockwell doesn't use flash ever since the Nagasaki incident.

Only Ken Rockwell can take pictures of Ken Rockwell; everyone else would just get their film overexposed by the light of his genius

Ken Rockwell wanted something to distract the lesser photographers, and lo, there were ducks.

Ken Rockwell is the only one who can take self-portraits of you

Ken Rockwell's nudes were fully clothed at the time of exposure

Ken Rockwell once designed a zoom lens. You know it as the Hubble SpaceTelescope.

When Ken unpacks his CF card, it already has masterpieces on it.

Rockwell portraits are so lifelike, they have to pay taxes

On Ken Rockwell's desktop, the Trash Icon is really a link to National Geographic Magazine

Ken Rockwell spells point-and-shoot "h-a-s-s-e-l-b-l-a-d"

When Ken Rockwell went digital, National Geographic nearly went out of business because he was no longer phyically discarding photos

For every 10 shots that Ken Rockwell takes, 11 are keepers.

Ken Rockwell's digital files consist of 0's, 1's AND 2's.

Ken Rockwell never focus, everything moves into his DoF

Ken Rockwell's shots are so perfect, Adobe redesigned photoshop for him: all it consists of is a close button.

The term tripod was coined after his silhouette

Ken Rockwell never produces awful work, only work too advanced for the viewer

A certain braind of hig-end cameras was named after people noticed the quality was a lot "like a" rockwell

Ken Rockwell isn't the Chuck Norris of photography; Chuck Norris is the Ken Rockwell of martial arts.

Ken Rockwell never starts, he continues
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 27 2013, 11:19 PM)
What's that thing on top?
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LED light, i use it to illuminate the path when I move around :S

QUOTE(teetaatee @ Apr 27 2013, 11:41 PM)
how to get milky? need cloudless sky?
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best if no cloud, but sometime a little bit of cloud will be interesting as well... very much depend on your composition... if you ask me, light pollution is more problematic than cloud... :S
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QUOTE(Maniac @ Apr 29 2013, 03:55 PM)
best if no cloud, but sometime a little bit of cloud will be interesting as well... very much depend on your composition...  if you ask me, light pollution is more problematic than cloud... :S
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so need to be at a place where with totally no light?
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Apr 29 2013, 03:41 PM)
V2 lah ! V1 is rm1600 like that...  biggrin.gif

go check DXO mark and the others lo... the 11-16 really good lah comapre to the 12-24 and 10-24... unless u wanna go for the 14-24

check out DXO mark

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Lenses/Co...r/(camera3)/440

if u really say u dont trust DXO mark, then i oso duno what reference can give u d @@
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i only tried the v1 before... I prefer the color rendition from 12-24 nikkor biggrin.gif
the only benefit from the tokki 11-16 is the 2.8 biggrin.gif I find that it always gave me blue tint biggrin.gif

QUOTE(teetaatee @ Apr 29 2013, 03:56 PM)
so need to be at a place where with totally no light?
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best is totally dark until you cant see your own finger without a torch light, and the line of sight to your shooting direction as low light as possible.
the place where I shot the photo, i can only see shape of my hand barely.
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I have a problem, When I switch on my Nikon D90 On the LCD "Err" is flashing.

dust problem? shud i send the body n lenses to service centre?

Kindly advise.

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Guys, wanna ask bout the tokina 11-16mm de quality control, anyone had anyproblem with it?

and tokina got give international warranty ?

http://www.tokinalens.com/support/warranty/

here say except USA wor

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rclxms.gif LOL !! DAFAK ! where u find this? ayam oso duno bout this @@ must be still new to photog ><
btw why u all hate him leh? hmm.gif

QUOTE(Maniac @ Apr 29 2013, 03:59 PM)
i only tried the v1 before...  I prefer the color rendition from 12-24 nikkor biggrin.gif
the only benefit from the tokki 11-16 is the 2.8 biggrin.gif  I find that it always gave me blue tint biggrin.gif
best is totally dark until you cant see your own finger without a torch light, and the line of sight to your shooting direction as low light as possible.
the place where I shot the photo,  i can only see shape of my hand barely.
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as in the 12-24 de colour produced better ah? but if colour can correct in lightroom/photoshop de or not? hmm.gif

blue tint as in?
for V2 de so far i know got add coating to reduce the flare loh... colour not sure.. need to test it out...



This post has been edited by BlizzardCraft: Apr 29 2013, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Apr 29 2013, 07:26 PM)
Guys, wanna ask bout the tokina 11-16mm de quality control, anyone had anyproblem with it?

and tokina got give international warranty ?

http://www.tokinalens.com/support/warranty/

here say except USA wor

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

rclxms.gif LOL !! DAFAK ! where u find this? ayam oso duno bout this @@ must be still new to photog ><
btw why u all hate him leh?  hmm.gif
as in the 12-24 de colour produced better ah? but if colour can correct in lightroom/photoshop de or not?  hmm.gif

blue tint as in?
for V2 de so far i know got add coating to reduce the flare loh... colour not sure.. need to test it out...
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IMO color rendition is abit moot if you PP alot.
Read some tests about the new coatings, not much difference, flare is one of Tokina's weakness, and it's still there in V2 unfortunately.
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QUOTE(bb100 @ Apr 26 2013, 05:02 PM)
How to get a sharp image of the moon? I tried before taking a few shots of the moon but ended up with a bright spot instead. icon_question.gif

Thanks!
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Hi sorry for late reply... I think you have to play more with the setting to get right exposure on your moon photo.
What lens did you used?
There is some tips how to shoot moon that I wrote here:
//forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2348828&view=findpost&p=60013625

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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Apr 29 2013, 08:27 PM)
IMO color rendition is abit moot if you PP alot.
Read some tests about the new coatings, not much difference, flare is one of Tokina's weakness, and it's still there in V2 unfortunately.
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Pixelpeep? hmm so overall not much diff one rite? without PP-ing

but flare not counted bad to everyne rite? for me abit flare still okay.. the effect nice to me smile.gif

the V2 and V1 just diff is motor and coating only? how bout canon eh...

@ japan just rm200 diff, so i got the V2 instead... in msia rm600 diff @@
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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Apr 29 2013, 08:27 PM)
IMO color rendition is abit moot if you PP alot.
Read some tests about the new coatings, not much difference, flare is one of Tokina's weakness, and it's still there in V2 unfortunately.
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i mainly used it on D7000 with video... not much things can do to the color grading :S
that's why prefer 12-24 ways better
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QUOTE(Maniac @ Apr 29 2013, 09:05 PM)
i mainly used it on D7000 with video...  not much things can do to the color grading :S
that's why prefer 12-24 ways better
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oo okay, i shoot photo so shud be no prob ba..
diff very big meh ._. ?
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Apr 29 2013, 09:22 PM)
oo okay, i shoot photo so shud be no prob ba..
diff very big meh ._. ?
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if you shoot in RAW, there are more latitude to 'process' biggrin.gif
video is pretty much highly compressed jpegs biggrin.gif

but then, if you can afford, just go for the 12-24 nikkor. better in every aspect in general use.
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Apr 29 2013, 09:02 PM)
Pixelpeep? hmm so overall not much diff one rite? without PP-ing

but flare not counted bad to everyne rite? for me abit flare still okay.. the effect nice to me  smile.gif

the V2 and V1 just diff is motor and coating only? how bout canon eh...

@ japan just rm200 diff, so i got the V2 instead... in msia rm600 diff @@
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That's what my cousin told me about the difference between his canon 10-22 and tokina 11-16,
says got difference in color but honestly i can't see any.
Maybe need to upgrade to something similar to his dell ultrasharp to see it sweat.gif

Doesn't bother me that much though, flare issue also, I just consider it artistic flare. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(Maniac @ Apr 29 2013, 09:05 PM)
i mainly used it on D7000 with video...  not much things can do to the color grading :S
that's why prefer 12-24 ways better
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What about white balance adjustment? Possible to do that for video right?
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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Apr 29 2013, 09:24 PM)
What about white balance adjustment?  Possible to do that for video right?
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Sometime is not convenience/or no luxury to manually adjust WB to fit the situation.
I shoot AWB 90% of the time.

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QUOTE(Maniac @ Apr 29 2013, 09:24 PM)
if you shoot in RAW, there are more latitude to 'process' biggrin.gif
video is pretty much highly compressed jpegs biggrin.gif

but then, if you can afford, just go for the 12-24 nikkor.  better in every aspect in general use.
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oo.. i normally shoot raw... nikkor x2 the price eh rclxub.gif 12-24 stil got meh? DXO mark don have the review one? weird.


QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Apr 29 2013, 09:24 PM)
That's what my cousin told me about the difference between his canon 10-22 and tokina 11-16,
says got difference in color but honestly i can't see any.
Maybe need to upgrade to something similar to his dell ultrasharp to see it  sweat.gif

Doesn't bother me that much though, flare issue also, I just consider it artistic flare. biggrin.gif
What about white balance adjustment?  Possible to do that for video right?
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haha... yea lo @@ diff not much ba.. ltr lemme check see
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Apr 29 2013, 09:39 PM)
oo.. i normally shoot raw... nikkor x2 the price eh  rclxub.gif 12-24 stil got meh? DXO mark don have the review one? weird.
haha... yea lo @@ diff not much ba.. ltr lemme check see
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the 12-24 is priced waaaaaaaay out of budget for most people including me doh.gif

RM3500 vs RM1800(tokina V1) gets you better build quality and color and some additional perks which is not worth it for people looking just for the perspective a wide angle can give like me.

Besides, 11mm and 12mm is very noticeable when compared side by side, even more so with sigma's 10mm starting point, cheaper too.
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 29 2013, 03:45 PM)
DxO is fine. Not Ken Rockwell tongue.gif

Ken Rockwell "facts"

Ken Rockwell is the Chuck Norris of photography

Ken Rockwell's camera has similar settings to ours, except his are: P[erfect] Av[Awesome Priority Tv[Totally Awesome Priority] M[ajestic]

Ken Rockwell doesn't color correct. He adjusts your world to match his.

Sure, Ken Rockwell deletes a bad photo or two. Other people call these Pulitzers.

Ken Rockwell doesn't adjust his DOF, he changes space-time.

Circle of confusion? You might be confused. Ken Rockwell never is.

Ken Rockwell doesn't wait for the light when he shoots a landscape - the light waits for him.

Ken Rockwell never flips his camera in portrait position, he flips the earth

Ken Rockwell ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one.

Ken Rockwell is the only person to have photographed Jesus; unfortunately he ran out of film and had to use a piece of cloth instead.

When Ken Rockwell brackets a shot, the three versions of the photo win first place in three different categories

Before Nikon or Canon releases a camera they go to Ken and they ask him to test them, the best cameras get a Nikon sticker and the less good get a Canon sticker

Once Ken tested a camera, he said I cant even put Canon on this one,thats how Pentax was born

Rockwellian policy isn't doublethink - Ken doesn't even need to think once

Ken Rockwell doesn't use flash ever since the Nagasaki incident.

Only Ken Rockwell can take pictures of Ken Rockwell; everyone else would just get their film overexposed by the light of his genius

Ken Rockwell wanted something to distract the lesser photographers, and lo, there were ducks.

Ken Rockwell is the only one who can take self-portraits of you

Ken Rockwell's nudes were fully clothed at the time of exposure

Ken Rockwell once designed a zoom lens. You know it as the Hubble SpaceTelescope.

When Ken unpacks his CF card, it already has masterpieces on it.

Rockwell portraits are so lifelike, they have to pay taxes

On Ken Rockwell's desktop, the Trash Icon is really a link to National Geographic Magazine

Ken Rockwell spells point-and-shoot "h-a-s-s-e-l-b-l-a-d"

When Ken Rockwell went digital, National Geographic nearly went out of business because he was no longer phyically discarding photos

For every 10 shots that Ken Rockwell takes, 11 are keepers.

Ken Rockwell's digital files consist of 0's, 1's AND 2's.

Ken Rockwell never focus, everything moves into his DoF

Ken Rockwell's shots are so perfect, Adobe redesigned photoshop for him: all it consists of is a close button.

The term tripod was coined after his silhouette

Ken Rockwell never produces awful work, only work too advanced for the viewer

A certain braind of hig-end cameras was named after people noticed the quality was a lot "like a" rockwell

Ken Rockwell isn't the Chuck Norris of photography; Chuck Norris is the Ken Rockwell of martial arts.

Ken Rockwell never starts, he continues
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LOLLL.. this is hilarious!!!
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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Apr 29 2013, 10:04 PM)
the 12-24 is priced waaaaaaaay out of budget for most people including me  doh.gif

RM3500 vs RM1800(tokina V1) gets you better build quality and color and some additional perks which is not worth it for people looking just for the perspective a wide angle can give like me.

Besides, 11mm and 12mm is very noticeable when compared side by side, even more so with sigma's 10mm starting point, cheaper too.
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the nikon de 12mm is lesser than real de 12mm @@

btw i got v2 for rm1800 thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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