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 Proton Suprima, New Perdana Based on Accord?

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kadajawi
post Apr 24 2013, 08:38 PM

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Second hand value of the Honda Accord will drop like RIM shares. laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 24 2013, 08:48 PM)
Honda will use Proton to extend shelf life of it's outdated model. Proton has already tried this with Citroen,Mitsubishi,Renault & now Honda. When will they learn?
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With Renault it was only the engine, and they didn't extend the shelf life. While the Kangoo got the 1.4 with 75 hp, the Savvy got the newer 1.2 with 75 hp, the same engine that is used in the Kangoo in Europe (the 1.4 was phased out). hmm.gif

The AX was a quite old car at that point IIRC. Mitsubishi... well, Mitsubishi provided many models, and without them I don't think Proton could have existed.

If it is what happened to the Lancer, then good night Accord. If there are many more changes, then ok.
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post Apr 24 2013, 10:54 PM

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If they just use the platform... why not stretch the platform the Preve sits on instead? I'm more inclined to think it will be more of a badge engineering excercise. Developing a new car would probably be too expensive given the small number they are probably going to sell of it.

So basically I guess we'll be seeing this:
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Pretty much the same car. (VW sent the factory of the outgoing A4 to Spain, changed the design slightly and started selling the car as a Seat, at a lower price).

Also if it is a bigger rework we should start seeing prototypes on our roads soon. Just change a few panels then no need...

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post Apr 25 2013, 11:44 AM

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I just can't see too many changes from the Accord. Change the design a bit OK (think facelift... Nothing under the skin can change, and the overall shape from the A pillar onwards to the C pillar can't change (doors maybe a bit)). Interior few changes again.

Engine yes, can change if they have one. But basically it will be more like a facelifted Accord... by Proton. No major changes.
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post Apr 25 2013, 12:20 PM

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They probably only make it for government officials. I'd say at least 100k, wouldn't be surprised if it is more (which would still be quite a bargain). But since it will be sold in small numbers the development costs need to be really low.
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post Apr 26 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(matmoto5125 @ Apr 26 2013, 09:28 AM)
I got 3 questions:

1. Why P1 doesn't play around with their displacement of the 1.6 CFE? Just like Ford did with its new 1.0 & 1.5 EcoBoost lineup.
2. Why P1 doesn't use the so-called Preve/Exora modular platform design?
3. Why P1 is yet to announce its so-called "business plan"?
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1. It's not that easy. The 1.0 is an entirely new engine, designed from the ground up to be turbocharged. They offer it with different turbos so they can offer it at different price and performance points. The 1.5 may or may not be related to the 1.0. It's a 4 cylinder... BMW seems to have developed a new 3 cylinder as well, that can be scaled up or down depending on needs (so 2 cylinder, 4 cylinder, ...). But who knows how much effort it takes.
2. Probably too much work for a car that is sold in too low numbers. That's what makes me think the Suprima will be a facelifted Accord. Keeps development costs low. Only volume sellers are produced in such numbers that the development costs can be covered by the car price.

(IMHO Proton should just rebadge the Skoda Superb... even got similar names laugh.gif That's a more suitable car for government officials).
kadajawi
post Apr 26 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Apr 26 2013, 01:10 PM)
if really got rebadged accord, who still want to buy new accord?
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Once it has a Proton badge it is unreliable crap, didn't you know? biggrin.gif

 

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