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 Proton Suprima, New Perdana Based on Accord?

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TSMTB_King
post Apr 24 2013, 08:35 PM, updated 13y ago

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This is something everyone will be looking forward to.. Proton appears to have registered the new name for the Perdana replacement according to a new posted by our friends at paultan.org

Sometime back thereas news about Proton collaborating with Honda so this might it. I wonder how it will look like, whether we get the old current Accord platform or the upcoming one remains to be seen.

Shit Man! This is crazy..2013 is a hell of year for cars...moving forward we are going to be spoilt for choices..

And I am looking forward to any form of price reduction for cars..

Check out the story here : http://paultan.org/2013/04/24/proton-suprima-trademark/
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post Apr 24 2013, 08:38 PM

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Second hand value of the Honda Accord will drop like RIM shares. laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 08:48 PM

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Honda will use Proton to extend shelf life of it's outdated model. Proton has already tried this with Citroen,Mitsubishi,Renault & now Honda. When will they learn?
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post Apr 24 2013, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 24 2013, 08:38 PM)
Second hand value of the Honda Accord will drop like RIM shares. laugh.gif
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Hahaha....maybe...maybe not bro...remember, they flogged the seventh gen Galant till the cows came home.

So maybe they might use the current gen accord platform. even if they base it on the upcoming 2013 Accord, there could be some design variations.

Dont think Honda would subject its new model to the Inspira / Lancer scenario. Kite tengok dulu lag!
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post Apr 24 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 24 2013, 08:38 PM)
Second hand value of the Honda Accord will drop like RIM shares. laugh.gif
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it won't
reason it very simple
other than the outlook is somewhat similar, everything else is different
even the engine is different, proton will be using the new 2.0L petronas engine
so technically speaking, its not even a rebadge

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Apr 24 2013, 09:24 PM
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post Apr 24 2013, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 24 2013, 08:48 PM)
Honda will use Proton to extend shelf life of it's outdated model. Proton has already tried this with Citroen,Mitsubishi,Renault & now Honda. When will they learn?
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With Renault it was only the engine, and they didn't extend the shelf life. While the Kangoo got the 1.4 with 75 hp, the Savvy got the newer 1.2 with 75 hp, the same engine that is used in the Kangoo in Europe (the 1.4 was phased out). hmm.gif

The AX was a quite old car at that point IIRC. Mitsubishi... well, Mitsubishi provided many models, and without them I don't think Proton could have existed.

If it is what happened to the Lancer, then good night Accord. If there are many more changes, then ok.
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post Apr 24 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 24 2013, 08:38 PM)
Second hand value of the Honda Accord will drop like RIM shares. laugh.gif
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hello Mr kadajawi smile.gif

I tend to agree with Mr alien... even if the new Perdana replacement is built on the Accord platform, there is news that the Perdana replacement model may use the Petronas engine.

With variations in design and a completely different engine, it may not affect the Accords resale value.

But saying that, I too have my doubts. The Perdana replacement story was bandied about a few times, first it was supposed to be based on the Passat through a JV with VW. then came news of partnership with Nissan.. all did not materialise so how far this new venture would go...we dont know yet.

For all I know the Suprima could be a name for another model offering from Proton...may not necessarily be the Perdana replacement. Besides, how proven is Petronas engine technology? does anyone know?

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post Apr 24 2013, 09:36 PM

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i dont get it.
are they going to refurbish the accord with touch ups and rebadgings
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they going to utilize the chasis/ platform only?

mind u, accord is quite sturdy vehicle.

and i thought proton got this multiple use of platform or modular something blah blah blah i heard before?

but from what been written, it seems the car is already ready in flesh. suprised there isnt much spyshots of it considering end of 2013 is the targetted release

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post Apr 24 2013, 09:36 PM

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When it coming out? Keyword make me excite is accord platform & EO1 engine.

If don't like the E01e engine & wanna plonk K series engine let me know if wanna let go cheap2 the E01e hehe..

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post Apr 24 2013, 09:36 PM

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If confirm true, Honda Accord owners can rejoice with cheaper parts...
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post Apr 24 2013, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Apr 24 2013, 09:36 PM)
but from what been written, it seems the car is already ready in flesh. suprised there isnt much spyshots of it considering end of 2013 is the targetted release
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Betul ke nie?

I have been looking for some spyshot since i posted this tapi tak de pun.

I really hope someone in Proton will post pics of the new Perdana if its ready... this will be interesting to follow.

As far as i have read, it seems the E01 engine was fitted to a Waja and a Satria GTI in 1998. Dont recall finding any further info on the performance and reliability after that.

Apart from the initial performance figures, there is still a big question mark.
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post Apr 24 2013, 10:05 PM

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P490A i bet..
I have some info.. dunno how true thou.. saw it inside the plant.. papers.. not car
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QUOTE(MTB_King @ Apr 24 2013, 09:46 PM)
Betul ke nie?

I have been looking for some spyshot since i posted this tapi tak de pun.

I really hope someone in Proton will post pics of the new Perdana if its ready... this will be interesting to follow.

As far as i have read, it seems the E01 engine was fitted to a Waja and a Satria GTI in 1998. Dont recall finding any further info on the performance and reliability after that.

Apart from the initial performance figures, there is still a big question mark.
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i dunno to be honest
but going with the trend of these few years, for every proton products there will be lots and lots of so called spyshots
i say the shots are indirect promotional agenda, not really spyshots. because u dont need to 'spy' to catch glimpse of the cars

and i was basically referring to the announcement that it cud be end of 2013 or early 2014. which is not so long considering we are coming to Q2 already
they must have the car ready by now, isnt it.
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If they just use the platform... why not stretch the platform the Preve sits on instead? I'm more inclined to think it will be more of a badge engineering excercise. Developing a new car would probably be too expensive given the small number they are probably going to sell of it.

So basically I guess we'll be seeing this:
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Pretty much the same car. (VW sent the factory of the outgoing A4 to Spain, changed the design slightly and started selling the car as a Seat, at a lower price).

Also if it is a bigger rework we should start seeing prototypes on our roads soon. Just change a few panels then no need...

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post Apr 24 2013, 11:34 PM

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i was hoping that they can develop more cfe engine.let say 1.8 or 2.0 cfe with 160-180hp for pedana replacement. or maybe 1.0 cfe for savvy replacement.
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QUOTE(MTB_King @ Apr 24 2013, 09:46 PM)
Betul ke nie?

I have been looking for some spyshot since i posted this tapi tak de pun.

I really hope someone in Proton will post pics of the new Perdana if its ready... this will be interesting to follow.

As far as i have read, it seems the E01 engine was fitted to a Waja and a Satria GTI in 1998. Dont recall finding any further info on the performance and reliability after that.

Apart from the initial performance figures, there is still a big question mark.
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they only file trademark for the name only
car hasn't even start to develope or anything
this name could be for any new car for proton
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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 24 2013, 09:36 PM)
If confirm true, Honda Accord owners can rejoice with cheaper parts...
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Some of the parts of Inspira is much more expensive than Lancer.
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post Apr 25 2013, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Apr 24 2013, 11:34 PM)
i was hoping that they can develop more cfe engine.let say 1.8 or 2.0 cfe with 160-180hp for pedana replacement. or maybe 1.0 cfe for savvy replacement.
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which would u prefer
2L CFE or 2L E01 engine?
2L CFE torque should be nice but its going be more thirsty than ever ...maybe like 2.5L car's FC
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 25 2013, 12:27 AM)
which would u prefer
2L CFE or 2L E01 engine?
2L CFE torque should be nice but its going be more thirsty than ever ...maybe like 2.5L car's FC
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not sure either p1 going to use e01 straight since it's an old engine (emission restriction). maybe use the tech and redesign the whole engine.
nway, tubo might be thirsty, but the main advantage is cheaper roadtax. for example pug vti and thp..thp is more thirsty than vti (fc around 1.8- 2.0L car), but way cheaper roadtax than 2.0 car.

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