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STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V130, Bull rally after GE
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V130, Bull rally after GE
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May 9 2013, 10:00 AM
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MYEG is strong
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May 9 2013, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 9 2013, 10:10 AM) Yes it's not bad but people are opposing it because of GST rate. It's been proven through several countries, that GST rate proposed at the initial stage is just a sweetener. 4% is not a lot, but what if it goes up to 7% in the next three years and later 10-15% in 10 years? Buy I wonder GST is good for Malaysia.Though oil and commodity prices are falling, prices of consumer items are in fact going up and up. Cost of living is only one way traffic, upwards. Toll is getting very expensive also. |
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May 9 2013, 10:27 AM
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May 9 2013, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 9 2013, 10:30 AM) before GE already discus not implement - on hold by gov. Even sugar price is falling quite a lot worldwide, our Govt still signs contracts to buy sugar from TWS at much higher prices.After BN win they implement now. Reason simple calculate the risk more Damage if implement near GE. Same like 2008, oil price and sugar increase. As usual after GE, BN = Barang Naik. Correct me if I am wrong. |
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May 9 2013, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ May 9 2013, 10:41 AM) I agreed this.................. Let say , u increase the maid pay to rm 2000 a month.my view, increase the minimum wages for foreign workers, can indirectly increase malaysian (lower group) wages too How much should be a starting pay for a fresh graduate. Do u know the start pay for new fresh graduate was kinda rm 1500 a month , 20 years ago in Malaysia. Could be lot more cheaper now if inflation is imputed. What about the inflation cost of education at 7% a year. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: May 9 2013, 10:51 AM |
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May 9 2013, 12:06 PM
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Where is Gark, retiring before GE ?
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May 9 2013, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 9 2013, 12:08 PM) escape to Indonesia Oil Palm estate Life is hard without Internet these days.Dont hv internet access & phone, next time must ask him leave his phone number for SMS. Internet could be a tool to stress your money values too. U learn many valuable and up to date things FOC |
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May 9 2013, 03:31 PM
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Good Suggestions :-
" To solve the financial problems faced by the middle class, MCCM also announced that it would build 100,000 low-cost houses which will be sold at cost price." http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...-malay-chamber/ This post has been edited by SKY 1809: May 9 2013, 03:32 PM |
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May 9 2013, 03:41 PM
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May 9 2013, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 9 2013, 03:52 PM) When there is free food or free stuff, rich Malaysians also come to queue. 7B could be used to build many low cost houses for the poor. BR1M is intended for poors, but I see many aunties come with their E class, 5 series, Camry, Estima Again , many jobs could be created ..... |
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May 9 2013, 04:24 PM
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May 10 2013, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 10 2013, 02:59 PM) What took you so long. I kinda like your method to write off Dividends to costs. for simple reason that there is an inflation cost of around 7% a year to your cost of investments.Phew luckily not a long windy essay. Back to your sentence, Everyone has their own way of calculating the gain/loses. There is no right, there is no wrong. Next, what? Actually U do not gain much if Dividend yields lower than Inflation rate, u just maintain your cost of investments at current purchasing power ( setting paper gain or loss aside ) Not a right way as to say , but I do support yr kinda accounting methods ( on personal basis ). For those depending on yields only, and nothing on capital growths, then do take into account of inflation . This post has been edited by SKY 1809: May 10 2013, 03:26 PM |
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May 10 2013, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 10 2013, 03:25 PM) Actually writing off dividend as cost is an effective way to calculate the real profit from specific stock, unfortunately, I'm too lazy to do it. Without updating the dividend as cost, your cost will remain the same until you sell it, either at loss or gain, but it will never be the real net gain/loss. If investments are for future retirement for example , u need to build an amount for future expenses ( with inflation factor ).Or else yr money kinda depreciates let say 7% a year. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: May 10 2013, 03:32 PM |
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May 10 2013, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 10 2013, 03:27 PM) Take one example 2simple reasons for that :-Referring Insider Asia model portfolio #500 & #501 Counter : GENTING The author received a 3.5 sens dividend, and it was adjusted into their costing, bringing down their costing from 9.43 to 9.395 So is he wrong? 1) market share price adjusted after ex dividends 2) Comparable with growth stocks ( showing paper gains ) Peace |
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May 10 2013, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 10 2013, 03:34 PM) If dividend, I just take the yield per annum. So assuming I want to have 60K per annum to retired, I would need at least 1M of investment capital in the dividend stocks that give me a net gain of 6% per year. Well, If yr retirement is 30 years down the road , yr present 60K expenses need to be inflation compounded at let say 5 to 10% ( % is let say only ) i.e your future estimated expenses .This post has been edited by SKY 1809: May 10 2013, 03:43 PM |
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May 10 2013, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 10 2013, 03:44 PM) I believe, barring any unforseen circumstances, my expenses will not be at 60K per annum as I would have already finish paying off my house and car loan. Not to mention, I still have EPF and maybe even rental income. So, the 5K per month usage is already include with the inflation. 1) Car is one tricky future lumpy item, do not know how long it could last even if u do not intend to buy another car in the future2) Health level drops, but health expenses may go up 3) children expenses 4) parent expenses 5) etc etc This post has been edited by SKY 1809: May 10 2013, 03:52 PM |
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May 10 2013, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ May 10 2013, 03:55 PM) 1)Good maintenance will prolong the lifespan of the car lo. 1) lifespan could be cut short by a Country Policy on car max age to be the road ( Japan is only 5 years )2)That's why need insurance 3)That's why don't spoon feed them 4)If you are very old, I think parents also same. 5) 2) if u do not feed them, then need a maid to feed them 3) Health insurance does not cover much on out of hospital expenses like health food 4) F expenses 5 ) This post has been edited by SKY 1809: May 10 2013, 04:02 PM |
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May 10 2013, 04:09 PM
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May 10 2013, 04:27 PM
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May 10 2013, 04:48 PM
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