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post Apr 22 2013, 02:02 AM, updated 13y ago

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Hey guys...
My rx8's kaput already clocking at 110k mileage.... currently considering to change the engine.... the budget is 15k (stretchable to 20k)
already when to ah choy subang for his advice...
brand new rx8's engine is 25k...
rebuilt is around 12k..
change to halfcut engine around 15-18k...

i'm also considering to swap to piston type engine such as 1jz or sr20det.... bcoz rotaries does need more maintenance and can run only on ron97...

any suggestions n opinions are very much helpful... thanks... notworthy.gif
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post Apr 22 2013, 12:25 PM

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the main things boggling my mind is the warranty,
if brand new engine only 1 week the most...


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post Apr 22 2013, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Apr 22 2013, 02:46 PM)
i rather put a rb26 in it..less hassle + more power....halfcut cheap oso
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thinking bout it... cheaper in the long run...
how bout JPJ/Puspakom endorsement issues...
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post Apr 22 2013, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 22 2013, 07:41 PM)
20b or 1jz..
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1jz seems to be overkill... 1300 jumps to 2500...
runner fees oso will be overkill the budget.. just found out it will cost me 2-4k for the fees...
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post Apr 22 2013, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 22 2013, 07:50 PM)
then maybe SR20?

anyway you do 110k then mati not bad liao.. last time at ah choy, i see 70-80k already engine kaput.. luckily mine 146k also no mati , fast fast sold it off.. laugh.gif
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haha... the car adi 7month not in running condition, only hav the budget...

now got 2 workshop that r shortlisted...
if i wanna go with rotary must go to ah choy since he is the best...
if change to piston, a very well known rotary workshop that can do such wiring needed..
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post Apr 22 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Apr 22 2013, 11:25 AM)
You can fit RX7 engine in but you will lose all the OE gauge cluster feature laugh.gif
I think rebuild stock engine is the best biggrin.gif
Well,rotary engine have to take care of it nicely for prolonged life span
Always never shut off car when cold(Engine will flood),check oil and top up periodically(like say once in a 2 week) and always drive sprintedly after warm up to prevent carbon build up
Take care of it and it will take care of you tongue.gif
To TS,maybe can do street port while rebuilding or something but i am not sure if Ah Choy do it
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haha... if go for rotary will go for RX8's engine...
it is very troublesome engine to take care...
the fact of it use RON97 is a bit disturbing...
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post Apr 23 2013, 07:37 PM

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1JZ in a RX8....
Credit to LSF Autowork....

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post Apr 23 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Apr 23 2013, 07:42 PM)
sell it off ....nothing can be done , mazda without rotary are just like pondan
cheap rebuild then let it go . cover up plate so no 1 know . or let used car trade in. change engine then engine need endorse , mostly ppl see will stray away
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QUOTE(bo093 @ Apr 23 2013, 08:15 PM)
So true.  tongue.gif

Ever consider doing those reliability rebuild? Using exotic materials.  brows.gif 
Read up on those build that mainly want more reliability.  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Alan @ Apr 23 2013, 08:20 PM)
Err... suggesting to change car as TS fell troublesome to take care of rotary engine...
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i bought this car cheap already using student AP in 2010...
it is free from any encumbrances, only need this car to send my little sister to school n basic driving (point A to B)... no racing involve..
therefore im really keen to rebuilt/replace/switch the engine... no monthly installment is GOOOOOOOOODDDDD!!!!
bought new car need to wait next year la, whether PR o BN wins, car will be cheaper.. haha tongue.gif

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post Apr 23 2013, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Apr 23 2013, 09:50 PM)
coz its only a to b purpose . so suggest ts the cheapest heheheh
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i looking for the best solution,the cheapest one may not be the bestest solution...
need all the sifu's input to help me to make the best decision... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 23 2013, 11:12 PM)
25k ? but mine i also change at ah choy place there about 15k...
mine only 62k+ then kong . lol ...though i may have found out why the engine kong ... tongue.gif
just get a new engine , cause you would not know the halfcut condition
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25k is brand new zero milage engine, if change to recond engine it would be around 15k~ depend on replaced parts.. (quoted by ah choy last week)

QUOTE(Hackezkk @ Apr 24 2013, 12:11 AM)
brapa ko angkat mazda ni? ap adik ko blaja kt jepun ke
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haah, adik blaja jepon... kerete sahaja RM18k~ xmasuk tax n lain2...

QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 24 2013, 01:04 AM)
back when first got the car , noticed that the engine temp would rise during traffic jams .s.  had read that engine would tend to heat up in traffic conditions or hard driving so left it ..then after cny last year , driving to KL from PG , just before ipoh , there`s a section of the higway which goes up slope before the tunnel ... got caught in a massive jam , the engine temp had risen to maximum ( i know my mistake , should have pulled over and let it cooled down ) , reached the tunnel evrything cleared up and went back to normal ...   reach KL already , suddenly the car stalled, but after a while it started back up , the quickly drove back home ...few days later noticed the temp still rising ...so masuk workshop (st wangan ) dianosed driver side cooling fan motor kong ... but i think by then the engine was damaged bdly ... lol  sweat.gif
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mine it got stalled at traffic light in a hot sunny day somewhere in rawang, temp to the max, water tank suddenly burst, and that the story..

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post Apr 24 2013, 08:45 AM

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anyone knew fuel consumption for SR20 & 1JZ per liter??

btw this is SR20 in a RX8...
credit to Vadim@SR20.com

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post Apr 25 2013, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Norsaiful Zaidi @ Apr 25 2013, 08:56 AM)
I found a shop in Klang call Naga Motorsport already start install SR20 into RX8

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4...88552926&type=3
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there is no update on the progress....

QUOTE(bo093 @ Apr 25 2013, 01:05 PM)
I heard some bad stories with Naga...  sweat.gif
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what kind of bad stories bro??


yesterday adi go to LSF, i have to wait into the waiting list, earliest on JULY...
only LSF can make the speedometer work properly, other workshop dont have the expertise to do such..

is it worth it to wait?
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post Apr 26 2013, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Apr 26 2013, 12:48 AM)
y the heck do u wanna bother with using back the rx8 speedo?  if u want to convert to SR or JZ engine, just use back the meter from the halfcut (if it can fit into the dash.  i think S14 & S15 meter can fit).  personally i won't be bothered with the wiring compatibility, if the meter can't fit into it, then use Apexi RSM and a fuel gauge to look at the fuel level.  if u convert to other brand engine, must use back that halfcut's wiring, don't lek lek go and do hybrid wiring because that'll be idiotic, and it'll make your head bald.

personally, i'll go for the SR20det and make it around 280whp for street use.  the Renesis engine is just too darn underpowered / under torque for everyday use, and too darn thirsty.  not to mention the maintenance of the thing.  and using SR won't hurt the balance of the car too badly.  it's a lot more heavier than the rotary but at least u don't have to worry too much every day about maintenance, fuel and what road to rev the car to the max just to clear that carbon build up in the rotary.

1jz is just too heavy for that car, the balance of the entire car will be severly ruined, and every time u step on the gas a little bit, your tail will slide.  i know, because i'm driving an E30 with 1jz vvti, and i don't have LSD, if have LSD like the RX8 u will be praying for survival every time it rains.  and u have to use auto GB because the rear diff of your RX is not going to last even 1 week with a manual 1jz.  use 1JZ only if u plan to drift the car.

if for weekend use of course use back rotary.

there are a few sports cars that are worth to buy starting this year, 1 is the fairlady 350z (which can easily be converted to RB26dett) and the other is the RX8 (which can plonk in the SR20det).  both are very cheap to buy, both have big disadvantages using their original engines but will be awesome if u do an engine conversion.

the fairlady is it's stupidly high road tax but very low hp per CC.  change to RB26dett although is a very expensive process, but every year u don't need to pay 4k for road tax, only pay 1k plus for 2.6.  and u get tonnes of hp and tonnes of g-forces to play with.  or u can just be a cheapo and convert to a 1jz vvti and save at least 5k on the conversion.

the RX is it's troublesome maintenance as an every day car. change to SR has a lot of benefits and only 2 downsides.  it's easy to maintain, easy to feed, easy to drive every day.  downsides are only u don't have the pure bred rotary goodness and that revving sound, and the balance of the car is kinda ruined (which i don't really care since drifting is more fun than pin-point precision driving)
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its nothing wrong if i can used the ori speedo gauge...
since it is around the same price with other workshop that cant do it...
LSF can do some wiring modd to make it functional... but need to wait.. sad.gif sad.gif

agreed with u bro... i may go for SR20 turbo... 1JZ seems to be very heavy...
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post May 2 2013, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ May 2 2013, 08:34 PM)
Errr
FYI,Ah Choy is one of the best rotary specialist around i suppose
Most of malaysia rotary is maintained at there one
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