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post Apr 22 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Apr 22 2013, 09:48 AM)
Could RX8 it fit RX7 engine? I think u really mod/ abuse the RX8 engine kaw kaw to kill it.
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You can fit RX7 engine in but you will lose all the OE gauge cluster feature laugh.gif
I think rebuild stock engine is the best biggrin.gif
Well,rotary engine have to take care of it nicely for prolonged life span
Always never shut off car when cold(Engine will flood),check oil and top up periodically(like say once in a 2 week) and always drive sprintedly after warm up to prevent carbon build up
Take care of it and it will take care of you tongue.gif
To TS,maybe can do street port while rebuilding or something but i am not sure if Ah Choy do it
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post Apr 24 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 24 2013, 01:04 AM)
back when first got the car , noticed that the engine temp would rise during traffic jams .s.  had read that engine would tend to heat up in traffic conditions or hard driving so left it ..then after cny last year , driving to KL from PG , just before ipoh , there`s a section of the higway which goes up slope before the tunnel ... got caught in a massive jam , the engine temp had risen to maximum ( i know my mistake , should have pulled over and let it cooled down ) , reached the tunnel evrything cleared up and went back to normal ...  reach KL already , suddenly the car stalled, but after a while it started back up , the quickly drove back home ...few days later noticed the temp still rising ...so masuk workshop (st wangan ) dianosed driver side cooling fan motor kong ... but i think by then the engine was damaged bdly ... lol  sweat.gif
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Time to install dual oil cooler like OE Mazdaspeed
Mazdaspeed one so sweet,even got duct that bolt up to Mazdaspeed bumper brows.gif
@TS,going from point A to point B is why your engine kong
Need to rev the heck out of rotary to ensure reliability after the engine warm up of course
Another trick can use is pour some 2 stroke oil into fuel tank when filling petrol;Will help your engine reliability,especially rotary and make it perform better while at it too
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post May 2 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 1 2013, 06:21 PM)
I suggest you overhaul the rotary engine at SC, safer and less likely you'll get conned. Rotary engine lifespan is 7 years, at least guaranteed could serve you well for another 7 years. If you sent to outside workshop, they'll charge you highly markup cut throat price for the parts and you don't know whether they really buy the parts or just re-fit the old part back to con you.

Price of overhauling Japanese engine at SC for totally blown engine:
- Inline4 engine around RM4k+ and never close to RM5k
- V6 engine range from RM5k-6k

Conman Ah Beng workshop could charge you RM6k for inline4 and RM8k-10k for V6. Also, many Ah Chong Ah Beng workshop are run by unqualified self claim foreman that don't even know what is Automotive Engineering course. Not even the minimum MLVK no CNG certificate with on job training.

Recond engine is nothing more than dead engine that they just fix to level where it can move but will give you headache shortly. Those old engines could be taken from cars that got total loss in Japan and given to you. Also, they don't even know how to calculate pressure, the air intake and exhaust manifold to muffler are nothing more than just sendiri tarik style that end up choking your engine. Either not enough pressure into engine or too much pressure into engine but exhaust pressure too low to pump out the exhaust causing carbon buildup and engine suffocate to die early.

Mind you, carmakers don't make straight air intake and exhaust with reason, curvy bengkang-bengkok tubes are there to generate enough pressure before pumping into engine and also creating pressure for exhaust gas to be pumped out of engine out through muffler pipe.

Don't pandai2 go change engine. That old SR20 engine or RB20 is too heavy for your RX8, you might understeer easily. Also fuel guzzling like mad. If you wanted to change engine, better you buy brand new Altis dual VVTi 1.8L or Korean Nu 1.8L or Theta 2.0L engine that save FC yet lightweight around 120kg or less.

Exhaust too, don't bother to change, more likely to cause pressure loss and the car can't digest exhaust properly.
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FYI,Ah Choy is one of the best rotary specialist around i suppose
Most of malaysia rotary is maintained at there one

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post May 3 2013, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(budakhops @ May 2 2013, 10:44 PM)
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Frankly,i would be more worried if i drive RX8 and send it to service center sweat.gif
Ah Choy also got goodies up for sales one tongue.gif
R3 Recaro interior,19" wheel etc drool.gif
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post May 4 2013, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(Cyprid Dark ii @ May 3 2013, 05:10 AM)
Been into the same situation,too...(Massive CNY Traffic Jam when going to Kedah in early 2012)

No such problem happened....So that was my luck,also. tongue.gif

But to add one more thing,carbonized rotary are not good.So whenever I got a chance I would rev tha b1tch hard enough especially when I was driving more than 1 hour without any redlining...I would find my way to doing it.Luckily it also handle better in corner than my fat Z33 so it kinda easy to push the engine while having a road-worthy fun with that. laugh.gif

So far no problem with my RX8 but mine was revised & facelifted version so you can expect that Mazda has made some revision on the engine,ECU & such other than just a look.(first gen ECU reportedly had a problem especially on the AT version where the engine management system didnt pumped enough engine oil during high-speed engine operation but it happened on several chassis no. if my mind served me right...In US the problem has been led for some class action suit & Mazda does make sure all the infected' model no. are getting free software update...)

Changing engine is good for reliability & power but not sure how it would effect the chassis rigidty & handling.So far I love RX8 because of the handling,& sharp steering respond.Been into track for quite a time with my Z33 & Nissan sportscar always felt heavy & less steering feedback.

I can say the RX8 had the same steering feel & handling behaviour as the NSX....Only a lil' bit sharper',probably that just me,but smoothness of wankel engine(where the polar of momentum are not up & down,but rather spinning directly on one linear direction) are making me just a bit more confident on driving it to the edge rather than both NSX & Z33.(Which I also happened to own,as well)
Ah choy is a good wankel mechanic,go for him.Best rotard guy ever !

Regarding the RX8,I admit I was love the facelifted model in Nemesis Blue & R3 package...Look dammmn good! thumbup.gif
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Guess generally RX8 as a driver's car that is practical for man in his late 20's ~ 40's is correct
Not so boy ricer image as EVO/STI and you get RWD fun(50/50 weight distribution,FR,LSD) in an attractive package
Also rotary sound is damn loud when decat tongue.gif
Overall it's an attractive ownership proposition for someone who know what they are getting into(Check oil level,top up oil accordingly,no cool shutdown,rev the heck out of it)
Also common issue like coolant reservoir,reinforced clutch pedal,steering rack,coil pack must be taken care of
Your RX8 is AT or MT??
For me,i would take a Mazdaspeed kitted one with R3 rim,interior
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post May 5 2013, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(bo093 @ May 5 2013, 09:42 AM)
If got PP, even more awesome.  brows.gif
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PP not really streetable lah laugh.gif
Wonder why no one does PP Renesis + ITB + Dog Box rev to over 12k rpm tongue.gif
But frankly if intend to go to that extend i rather do 3 Rotor NA like Panspeed's one
Again kind of lari theme with fun street car
The whole point of RX8 is you need to learn how to drive properly to be fast utilizing the limited power you have at hand


 

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