Yeap I am holding one now. One of my self hunted 5* . Was thinking how much I can trade it later. Another good type 5* or multiple decent type?

Just wondering, is the SD successful rate based on MP or WIS? Why that maniacal jugg always success in SD arr?

mcblade
Yeah bro, the HoT maniacal also, 9 out of 10 SD sure tapau my card. Thats why i was curious to know what factor decide the SD success rate . The higher MP = higher SD rate or higher WIS = higher SD rate.

Hmmm, i am still holding a fast s.banshee. No one offer for a good trade for the time being .

What is the rough market value for her now?

hehe, next round you should use ur second idevice to record it

Quick check, btw rb cool and rb powerful h-nix which one is better ya?

Morning guys. Just wondering is it worth to trade a powerful Thor with an intel h-nix? (I got a powerful H-Nix now).

Thanks sifu. Do u reckon I should d a 1 to 1 trade in this case? Power Thor clean for intel H-nix clean.

I only got 3 at the moment .

Let me try to solve the math here

Sonic Fujin - HP 5155 Def 3121
can take physical demage = 5155 + (3121/2) + (3121/2) --> 1st def is to absorb QS, 2nd def is to absorb LS
= 5155 + 3121
= 8276


Morri base ATK = 4223
Morri QS ATK = 4223 - 15% = 3589.55
Morri LS ATK = 4223 + 20% buff = 5067

Morri QS + LS ATK = 3589.55 + 5067
= 8656.55

Can morri QS + LS KO Alm Sonic Fujin?
Answer = 8656.55 - 8276
= 380.55 --> yes Morri QS + LS can KO Alm Sonic Fujin

But depends if your morri LS work. So the LS success rate will take into consideration.

Note: My calculation above is based on Morri skill set with 20% ATK buff, QS and LS. If your morri dont have 20% buff, the answer will be NO.

Morri without 20% buff

Morri base ATK = 4223
Morri QS ATK = 4223 - 15% = 3589.55
Morri LS ATK = 4223

Morri QS + LS ATK = 3589.55 + 4223
= 7812.55

Can morri QS + LS KO Alm Sonic Fujin?
Answer = 7812.55 - 8276
= -463.45 --> NO Morri QS + LS cannot KO Alm Sonic Fujin


This post has been edited by cvshi515: May 2 2013, 08:43 AM

Yeap, that is correct. Phy damage is alway hp + (def/2) for 1 hit.

I have also added the morr skill without buff in my previous post.

As for elemental, it remain the same formula.
Elemental damage (defensive) = hp + (wis/2)
Elemental demage (offendsive) = WIS *1.5 (+4 skill) and WIS*1.25 (+3 skill) --> not inclusive any WIS buff

I would need to do further checking on the skills multiplier . And if I am not mistaken, critical hit (elemental) will give extra 15% demage.

This post has been edited by cvshi515: May 2 2013, 09:03 AM

supermac
No worries .

And surprisingly, now only i realized why gcx opt for ATK +20 for morri instead of +4 physical. Perhaps they build it to maximize the LS demage to get more out of it if she meet an opponent which is faster than her. But again, the base ATK is not enough to OHKO most of the tanker out there .

But like bro jkleejk mentioned, Sonic fujin will move twice. So morri dont stand a chance to hit fujin even LS kicks in.

Yeap, as far as I know QS is alway 85% (or minus 15%) off the base ATK stat without buff or being debuff .

But as for scratch demage (LS) it should be same as base ATK Stat (100%) + buff and - debuff.

The only thing that I am not sure now is how they come out with the demage numbering at the bottom during a fight. Coz, if any wild guardian whack ur Aces, the damage is like only 1. Does that mean your def absord all the demage and only demage 1 to your HP?

This post has been edited by cvshi515: May 2 2013, 10:18 AM

Hahaha, sound like two birds banging onto a wall.

Beside, how much is it to trade for an Ace H-nix ya? The QS still good for us in master or vateran . Been thinking a lot on getting either fast or intel H-nix, but still want to see what it take to get an Ace H-Nix .

This post has been edited by cvshi515: May 2 2013, 10:47 AM

Ok my friend sort of found out a way on how the Agi works. But we need help to prove it. Yes, I am pointing this to supermac since he always do social fights analysis.

This is what we think. The algorithm is like a Agi basket. And each turn will take 2500 Agi point (*assume) in allowing ur guadian to make one move.

Now this is the case, if I am using an ALM Sonic S.Bird. My fs base agi is 5204 vs my opponent beserk behe (normal) with agi 2573.

So now my Agi basket is 5204 and my opponent Agi basket is 2573. Hence my S.bird will make the move 1st since my Agi basket is higher. When i make the frist move, my agi basket will reduce by 2.5K which become 2704 and assume my bird cannot kill that bold behe.

Then in order to make a 2nd move, they will compare the Agi basket again. My basket now have 2704 agi vs my oppoent 2573. Again, my Agi basket is higher. So i will make the 2nd move to kill that bold behe. So now my agi basket only left 204 and oppenent has 2573 + 3258 (RB Ace cagnazzo fs). So now my opponent will make the move first since my agi basket only have 204 points. And my bird got kill my cagnazzo... Now my agi basket is 204 points and my opponent has 3331 agi point (2573 + 3258 - 2500).

Then my 2nd card comes in Ace RB Domi with Agi 3608. So now we will compare the agi basket again, I have 3812 (3608 + 204) agi point and my oppenent have 3331. So I will get to move since my agi basket is higher. Then the calculation continue....

I am not sure if our understanding is accurate, but lets see if someone can prove this and find out the Agi point required for one move.

And what if both agi basket become 0 when both guardian cannot kill each other? I think each person will get one move until someone get kill.

supermac can you tell us more about ur lilith fight without +4 skill? Did she hit and evade, hit and evade until one card get kill?

This idea is like the old school game where u need to wait for ur agi bar to be fully filled before u can make a move.

Note: Agi 20/25 buff will add the additional Agi points into your basket. So it would benefit ur next guardian or overall deck agi.

This post has been edited by cvshi515: May 2 2013, 04:17 PM

supermac
Hehe, we are not sure if this is really how it works. Thats why we need a social analysis like you to find out more in details.

If we can prove this is how the agi/move algorithm work, then we should reconsidering all the Agi buff/debuff guardian whether to take away their buff/debuff.

No worries bro. Just trying to sort things out since I am looking for the same answer as well. Lets hope we all will find the answer soon. Hehe and now ur social fight will be more excited.

Oh, you can record the fight with ur second idevice then slow montion it hehehe.

haha, we will do the math and let u guys know the summary.

But like bro negisf said, there is still some loop in the theory that we trying to prove.

I have tested a wild guardian fight. The Alm Sonic S.Bird kill 3 cards then get scratch. Then opponent scratch bird. Then bird scratch again twice.

So there is some missing part in between..... more to find out.

Morning sifus.

Need some deck advise here.

RB Alm Sonic S.Bird (from bro negisf)
RB Ace Thor (from bro negisf)
Fast Babaricia (from bro Funny)
Fast Odin
RB Ace Lightning lord (FS in WIS and almost FS in Agi/def)
RB Ace Old Gilga (FS in Agi and WIS)
RB Alm Sonic Lamia (from bro negisf)
RB Ace Anubis (from bro negisf)
Intel SE (FSemp)
RB Alm Sonic Banshee Witch (from bro negisf)

I am just wondering why am I still stuck in Elite rank A even with the muscles from our sifus here. Is there something wrong with my deck arrangement?

Was hoping to get the mighty so I can go back to veteran next coli .

Uzurasupermac

Thanks bros. Hehe guess I am not ready for elite even with bro neigsf's help.

I will try to rearrange the deck and hope for the best .