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post Apr 19 2013, 12:17 AM, updated 13y ago

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post Apr 19 2013, 12:18 AM

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post Apr 19 2013, 12:31 AM

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post Apr 19 2013, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Bear2bear @ Apr 19 2013, 12:17 AM)
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Google got one. smile.gif

http://www.acson.com.my/corporate-information

http://www.daikin.com/press/2006/060518_2/

http://www.york.com/

York is owned by Johnson Controls.

OYL is their licensed manufacturer in Malaysia.

http://www.oyl.com.my/oylm/about_us.html

This post has been edited by joe_mamak: Apr 19 2013, 12:37 AM
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post Apr 19 2013, 12:38 AM

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daikin doesn't have a kickass song

anywhere you go
enjoy the comfort of cooling air
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york cooling king!
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post Apr 19 2013, 12:47 AM

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Acson is under OYL.
York is under Daikin, if not mistaken.

But in Malaysia, OYL is manufacturer for Acson and York
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post Apr 19 2013, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Apr 19 2013, 12:36 AM)
Google got one.  smile.gif

http://www.acson.com.my/corporate-information

http://www.daikin.com/press/2006/060518_2/

http://www.york.com/

York is owned by Johnson Controls. 

OYL is their licensed manufacturer in Malaysia.

http://www.oyl.com.my/oylm/about_us.html
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Meaning Malaysia York is actually owned by daikin. I low education.
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post Apr 19 2013, 08:38 AM

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York home air cond is under licencing onli. All air cond by OYL and OYL is nao under Daikin

Daikin > OYL > Acson & York Malaysia

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post Apr 19 2013, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(ClinchingStuds @ Apr 19 2013, 08:38 AM)
York home air cond is under licencing onli. All air cond by OYL and OYL is nao under Daikin

Daikin > OYL > Acson & York Malaysia
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Meaning spare part easy find. Korek me if I mistake.
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post Apr 19 2013, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Bear2bear @ Apr 19 2013, 08:42 AM)
Meaning spare part easy find. Korek me if I mistake.
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Yes, they're all made by Malaysian vendors. Only the complicated ones are not.

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post Apr 19 2013, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Apr 19 2013, 12:38 AM)
daikin doesn't have a kickass song

anywhere you go
enjoy the comfort of cooling air
since 1974
york cooling king!
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AHhhhhhhhhh get it out my mind GET THE F OUT AHHHH
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post Apr 19 2013, 08:56 AM

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Daikin house ac any gooding? I saw lots of hotel using Daikin but the design too oldies.
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post Apr 19 2013, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(ClinchingStuds @ Apr 19 2013, 08:38 AM)
York home air cond is under licencing onli. All air cond by OYL and OYL is nao under Daikin

Daikin > OYL > Acson & York Malaysia
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Daikin > OYL > Acson (Global) & York Malaysia,SG,Brunei


York Msia and Acson Malaysia residential airconds share almost identical parts, except the logo sticker laugh.gif . But York Msia excel in after sales service and whole packaging of their marketing. Most ppl dont know this, that they pay premium price for York to get Acson aircond with good service. Johnson get royalties from the York sales here.

OYL also own McQuay brand which is quite famous in Europe and US, but not available here. This was one main reason Daikin buy over OYL. Acson also from SG aircond brand name Acma. acMA become acSON after OYL took over.
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Like my engineer says..

Daikin is like a BMW..stylish & classy + expensive

Panasonic is like Mercedes..classy & abit old fashion looking + expensive also.

Wherelse.. York is like a Toyota..durable & reliable laugh.gif
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post Apr 19 2013, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(mrbs84 @ Apr 19 2013, 08:56 AM)
Daikin house ac any gooding? I saw lots of hotel using Daikin but the design too oldies.
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Daikin is famous for its inverter tech and its variable refrigerant volume (VRV). Its something like a single outdoor unit, but supplies to multiple indoor units that can run cooling AND heating at the same time rclxub.gif . In malaysia however, the most basic units of Daikin are only available for residential, and those are manufactured in thailand.

Back to your question, nevertheless, its Japanese brand. Thailand plant that manufactured msia Daikin units, are also very good quality, and yes, the design are old coz its the basic unit, not premium.

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post Apr 19 2013, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Apr 19 2013, 09:04 AM)
Daikin is famous for its inverter tech and its variable refrigerant volume (VRV). Its something like a single outdoor unit, but supplies to multiple indoor units that can run cooling or heating at the same time  rclxub.gif . In malaysia however, the most basic units of Daikin are only available for residential, and those are manufactured in thailand.

Back to your question, nevertheless, its Japanese brand. Thailand plant that manufactured msia Daikin units, are also very good quality, and yes, the design are old coz its the basic unit, not premium.
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Daikin maintenance expensive or panasonic?
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post Apr 19 2013, 09:25 AM

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Im using two units of Daikin in the house. Its inverter is really top notch. monthly bills averaging between 120 - 160. 1.5hp and 2.0hp model, using average 12 hours daily.
Drawbacks, wind doesn't blow very strong and can't actually reach 18'C after a while. For 20'C and above, it'll work very nice and comfy. Optimum temperature for sleeping is 24'C.
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QUOTE(Bear2bear @ Apr 19 2013, 12:17 AM)
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daikin bought over OYL malaysia, owner of both york n acson brand in malaysia
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post Apr 19 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Apr 19 2013, 09:25 AM)
Im using two units of Daikin in the house. Its inverter is really top notch. monthly bills averaging between 120 - 160. 1.5hp and 2.0hp model, using average 12 hours daily.
Drawbacks, wind doesn't blow very strong and can't actually reach 18'C after a while. For 20'C and above, it'll work very nice and comfy. Optimum temperature for sleeping is 24'C.
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The indoor blower design are kinda weak i must say. When its dirty, the wind will be soft and cooling power diminish. Worse case, will have tik tik tik sound. The blower aint detachable like mitsubishi mr slim which can depart the louver by half, and blower removed for thorough brushing. I have 6 units of Daikin inverter in my house, cant comment on the bills or energy saving since the meter is ahem..ahem...

For optimizing the cooling effect, try to have the indoor blower service/wash. The servicemen have a special brush that can wash the blower easily without taking out the units.

The aluminium fin or coil are still in good shape after 5 years. No visible corrosion. Electronics boards are all okie, and no water spooling or leaking problems so far.
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Apr 19 2013, 09:25 AM)
Im using two units of Daikin in the house. Its inverter is really top notch. monthly bills averaging between 120 - 160. 1.5hp and 2.0hp model, using average 12 hours daily.
Drawbacks, wind doesn't blow very strong and can't actually reach 18'C after a while. For 20'C and above, it'll work very nice and comfy. Optimum temperature for sleeping is 24'C.
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So set temp to 24c and press econo. Izzit ok?
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QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Apr 19 2013, 09:48 AM)
The indoor blower design are kinda weak i must say. When its dirty, the wind will be soft and cooling power diminish. Worse case, will have tik tik tik sound. The blower aint detachable like mitsubishi mr slim which can depart the louver by half, and blower removed for thorough brushing. I have 6 units of Daikin inverter in my house, cant comment on the bills or energy saving since the meter is ahem..ahem...

For optimizing the cooling effect, try to have the indoor blower service/wash. The servicemen have a special brush that can wash the blower easily without taking out the units.

The aluminium fin or coil are still in good shape after 5 years. No visible corrosion. Electronics boards are all okie, and no water spooling or leaking problems so far.
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I normally service them twice a year. Don't actually know how they do it, but they will take off both the outdoor and indoor unit and give a good rinse of jet water and air. Can't recall how much the service though.

QUOTE(Bear2bear @ Apr 19 2013, 09:48 AM)
So set temp to 24c and press econo. Izzit ok?
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I still not sure what econo mode does. sweat.gif
But the inverter will kicks in once it reached the temperature set. When starting the aircon, I will set it to coldest temp at full blast. Then in about 30 minutes, I'll set it to optimal temperature. It saves electricity if I do it that way rather than letting the aircon slowly cool the room. Before sleeping, I'll set temperature to 24'C and silent mode. Set it to turn off automatically at 5am. By 6am, my family will usually wake up by themselves because our body will adjust to a warmer temperature. This is my secret to waking up my children early for school. nod.gif
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post Apr 19 2013, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Apr 19 2013, 10:19 AM)
I normally service them twice a year. Don't actually know how they do it, but they will take off both the outdoor and indoor unit and give a good rinse of jet water and air. Can't recall how much the service though.
I still not sure what econo mode does. sweat.gif
But the inverter will kicks in once it reached the temperature set. When starting the aircon, I will set it to coldest temp at full blast. Then in about 30 minutes, I'll set it to optimal temperature. It saves electricity if I do it that way rather than letting the aircon slowly cool the room. Before sleeping, I'll set temperature to 24'C and silent mode. Set it to turn off automatically at 5am. By 6am, my family will usually wake up by themselves because our body will adjust to a warmer temperature. This is my secret to waking up my children early for school.  nod.gif
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Can set automatically?
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post Apr 19 2013, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Apr 19 2013, 10:19 AM)
I normally service them twice a year. Don't actually know how they do it, but they will take off both the outdoor and indoor unit and give a good rinse of jet water and air. Can't recall how much the service though.
I still not sure what econo mode does. sweat.gif
But the inverter will kicks in once it reached the temperature set. When starting the aircon, I will set it to coldest temp at full blast. Then in about 30 minutes, I'll set it to optimal temperature. It saves electricity if I do it that way rather than letting the aircon slowly cool the room. Before sleeping, I'll set temperature to 24'C and silent mode. Set it to turn off automatically at 5am. By 6am, my family will usually wake up by themselves because our body will adjust to a warmer temperature. This is my secret to waking up my children early for school.  nod.gif
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normal service is abt RM80~120 per unit. If u done twice a year, that is good enough, in fact, very good.

econo mode is abt selecting the most energy saving program logic for the inverter units. In econo mode, the inverter will react more prudent in achieving the set/requested temperature.

inverter units is unlike normal unit. Inverter unit has motor running(compressor, cent fan) that dont just run on 50Hz(msia spec). They can run at 20~60Hz depending on models. By doing this, the motors will not draw too high current or energy whenever a parameter is out from control range. They can slowly adjust the parameters, running at slower pace when the variance is just small. Simple term, u need just 0.5celcius minor increase(cost someone open the door letting hot air in, etc), the aircond can run on 20~30Hz or 0.5HP, and when u just start the aircond, need 4~5celcius adjustment, it will run full speed 50~60Hz (2.0HP).
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QUOTE(Bear2bear @ Apr 19 2013, 08:37 AM)
Meaning Malaysia York is actually owned by daikin. I low education.
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Don't think so. Joint venture -

http://124.150.140.81/~yorkoylc/main/index...id=31&Itemid=40
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QUOTE(Bear2bear @ Apr 19 2013, 10:30 AM)
Can set automatically?
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Yes, most newer model AC got timer functions in the remote.

QUOTE(K5WHITE @ Apr 19 2013, 10:41 AM)
normal service is abt RM80~120 per unit. If u done twice a year, that is good enough, in fact, very good.

econo mode is abt selecting the most energy saving program logic for the inverter units. In econo mode, the inverter will react more prudent in achieving the set/requested temperature.

inverter units is unlike normal unit. Inverter unit has motor running(compressor, cent fan) that dont just run on 50Hz(msia spec). They can run at 20~60Hz depending on models. By doing this, the motors will not draw too high current or energy whenever a parameter is out from control range. They can slowly adjust the parameters, running at slower pace when the variance is just small. Simple term, u need just 0.5celcius minor increase(cost someone open the door letting hot air in, etc), the aircond can run on 20~30Hz or 0.5HP, and when u just start the aircond, need 4~5celcius adjustment, it will run full speed 50~60Hz (2.0HP).
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Yea, I did some read up about inverter technology before purchasing my first AC. After realizing its worth, I went and did some survey in the market. Back then, Panasonic had lots of top choice inverter models in the market, but they're using different type of cooling gas which is more expensive and may require different piping size. In the end, I was left between Daikin and Mitsubishi, but Mitsu's model was very few and more expensive.
I think for my guest room I wanna try a misubishi. Inverter is a MUST. York and Acson are sturdy and reliable, but not energy efficient.
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Apr 19 2013, 10:51 AM)
Yes, most newer model AC got timer functions in the remote.
Yea, I did some read up about inverter technology before purchasing my first AC. After realizing its worth, I went and did some survey in the market. Back then, Panasonic had lots of top choice inverter models in the market, but they're using different type of cooling gas which is more expensive and may require different piping size. In the end, I was left between Daikin and Mitsubishi, but Mitsu's model was very few and more expensive.
I think for my guest room I wanna try a misubishi. Inverter is a MUST. York and Acson are sturdy and reliable, but not energy efficient.
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Panasonic models are running on higher pressure refrigerant, which actually are more efficient, and the performance are further noticeable for heating purpose during winter time. Hence, u need thicker copper piping and joints for the Pana units. And Pana units are more modern design coz those same units are cater for premium market overseas as well.

Daikin too has that higher refrigerant units, but they are not marketed here. Daikin Msia only has basic units.

York and Acson actually are not energy efficient, coz OYL is lacking in inverter technology comparatively to Japanese. But York/Acson units are very high performance units and have bigger cooling btu. Those that need fast blasting cooling effect can opt for York/Acson.

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installed my york 1.5hp non- inverter early this year for my master bedroom.. that time dunno york & acson under same roof.. then after 2 weeks my parents installed acson 1.5hp non- inverter at their house.. during installation i'm at my parents house.. very shocked seing d acson indoor & outdoor unit + d remote control 95% same like my york aircond.. then i asked the technician, he said york & acson under same roof, same factory at sg. buloh selangor.. then i look at d s/n & info sticker at d indoor unit, yupp.. it is same factory as sticked at my york indoor unit.. just only they stick different sticker brand at d aircond unit.. shocking.gif that time me very frustated coz not choose acson for my master bedroom aircond at d 1st place, coz acson is rm250 chaper than my york aircond unit.. cry.gif btw, d aircond technician is same person who installed my york aircond.. my advise to anyone that wanna install new aircond unit, u may consider mitsubishi either inverter or non- inverter unit.. eventhou it's quite pricy, but i think it's worth for your money.. why i can say that? coz one of my fren installed mitsubishi 1.0hp non-inverter for his 2nd bedroom, size of d room is same like my master bedroom, got direct sunlight, but d cooling time to cool down d room much more faster than my york, indoor unit can say sooo quite until u cannot hear d aircond gas running in & out.. thumbup.gif
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u get peace of mind warranty claim from york...hehehe

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