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TSconvicted_knight
post Apr 17 2006, 01:01 PM, updated 20y ago

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Any of u guys can recommend any good GC for BF2 and budget is not QUITE a factor and ofcoz dont too expensive one lah maybe below 1k.....

Recommend three entries...

Entry Level....
Medium Level....
High Performance Level...

Sorry being so n00b.. tongue.gif

Planning to buy new sets of comp in the future...
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post Apr 17 2006, 01:14 PM

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a 6800gs will do the job .. below rm 700 also
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post Apr 17 2006, 01:48 PM

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hmmm... 6800gs from any company(MSI, winfast leadtek...) will do..? Or there is diffrent between each company's product.

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post Apr 17 2006, 02:31 PM

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hmmm

7900GT

period
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post Apr 17 2006, 02:34 PM

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skip the 6800GS and get the 7600GT instead. tongue.gif
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post Apr 17 2006, 02:46 PM

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if you are thinking about 6800,get the 7600 instead
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post Apr 17 2006, 08:10 PM

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hmm... so many 7600'ers....
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post Apr 17 2006, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Apr 17 2006, 02:34 PM)
skip the 6800GS and get the 7600GT instead.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Apr 17 2006, 02:46 PM)
if you are thinking about 6800,get the 7600 instead
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notworthy.gif yea i know im outdated already. but he ask for budget and 6800gs can do the job. to play bf2 at highest settings. anyway 7900GTX is better thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Apr 17 2006, 09:35 PM)
x800gto  thumbup.gif
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X800GTO is worse, unless u bought the X800GTO2 which can unlock to X850XT performance. But still, no PS3.0. So skip this one...... unless u meant X1800GTO. tongue.gif

QUOTE(gestapo @ Apr 17 2006, 11:13 PM)
notworthy.gif  yea i know im outdated already. but he ask for budget and 6800gs can do the job. to play bf2 at highest settings. anyway 7900GTX is better  thumbup.gif
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saya rekemen 7600GT bang.... same price as 6800GS but better performance... a bit. laugh.gif
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post Apr 18 2006, 12:22 AM

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post Apr 18 2006, 04:19 AM

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i'm using asus extreme n6600 silencer. is it good enuff for highest setting?
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QUOTE(killer1 @ Apr 18 2006, 04:19 AM)
i'm using asus extreme n6600 silencer. is it good enuff for highest setting?
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i guess not good enuff. will take some time to load the game and in game will lag a bit for a few seconds without the 4x AA
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Well there is always FireGL 3100 tongue.gif
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1. Nvidia 7600
2.Ati X1600
3. Ati X1900XTX

I r ATi fan. Hehehehehee....
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post Apr 20 2006, 01:53 AM

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hmm.... time to upgrade my gc again. shoot, i purposely bought dat for d bf2..............
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err.. i'm thinking of getting BF2 but didnt know my comp can manage it or not.. my specs is P-M 740, 1024MB DDR2, 128 mobility X700.. is it sufficient?
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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ Apr 17 2006, 01:48 PM)
hmmm... 6800gs from any company(MSI, winfast leadtek...) will do..? Or there is diffrent between each company's product.
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Try use XFX brand, since yr budget is around RM1xxx GF6800GS is suite 4 u. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

My 1 used XFX GF6800GS wif "XXX" (already OC) the price i think is around RM9xx sweat.gif

I also Nvidia Fans & supporter too..... cheers.gif cheers.gif
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post Apr 21 2006, 02:12 AM

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if really tight budget 6600GT also can already..no problems
only RM400
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QUOTE(vorchiel @ Apr 20 2006, 07:52 PM)
err.. i'm thinking of getting BF2 but didnt know my comp can manage it or not.. my specs is P-M 740, 1024MB DDR2, 128 mobility X700.. is it sufficient?
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laptop?
bored of cs? tongue.gif

should be able to run it.
even a 9600pro can run the game at low.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 21 2006, 02:28 AM)
laptop?
bored of cs? tongue.gif

should be able to run it.
even a 9600pro can run the game at low.
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err.. kinda bored now.. i want to play something a bit different... blush.gif
good to hear that it can run at low settings..

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post Apr 28 2006, 04:23 PM

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any recommedation for AGP card?
not ready to upgrade the whole system to PCI-e .
just wanna upgrade the GC at d moment..
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post Apr 28 2006, 04:38 PM

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x1600pro

or 6600gt

or 7300gs

or x1300
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post May 14 2006, 02:22 AM

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Compare between NV 5500 & ATI X550. Which one better?
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post May 14 2006, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(zx7177 @ Apr 28 2006, 04:38 PM)
x1600pro

or 6600gt

or 7300gs

or x1300
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x1600pro and 7300gs
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or wait for 7300GT to come out next week tongue.gif
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post May 14 2006, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ May 14 2006, 04:54 PM)
or wait for 7300GT to come out next week  tongue.gif
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at the moment me drooling for a 7600gs icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(zx7177 @ May 14 2006, 06:35 PM)
at the moment me drooling for a 7600gs  icon_rolleyes.gif
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a fren of mine just got his Asus 7600GS for RM500, quite a good deal. rclxms.gif
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i tot 7600gs is crap? the good one is GT?
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QUOTE(gestapo @ May 14 2006, 07:10 PM)
i tot 7600gs is crap? the good one is GT?
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7600GS is slightly better than 6600GT but with 256mb ram instead. The crap one is 7300GS la kot. tongue.gif
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post May 15 2006, 01:46 PM

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just got my rig ready for d game.. kaka...
how much is a BF2??
where hell in JB i can get it??
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post May 15 2006, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(daze @ May 15 2006, 01:46 PM)
just got my rig ready for d game.. kaka...
how much is a BF2??
where hell in JB i can get it??
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I dont know where you can find it in JB.. but i bought it from www.pcgame.com.my

JB easy to find *ahem ahem* one..... ori kinda difficult la...
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post May 16 2006, 08:33 PM

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just got mine..today...
keke..but wat version u guys using.
not much server i found. all d ping more than 150!!!
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that ping is normal....

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post May 31 2006, 01:37 PM

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All right guys.. Planing get new GC this week.. rclxm9.gif Finally.. sweat.gif Kumpul RM10 sehari... Nanti nak gi tukar duit kat bank jap.. bawak duit RM10 berketul2 malu owh.. blush.gif sweat.gif

Budget around RM500..
NEED AGP not PCi-e...

Kalo bleh recommend kodai skali... Tak susah round2 lam LYP lama2.. Takder mase.. keje.. ader time lunch break jer..

Need your guys opinion since nvr experience much on good graphic gaming.. tak songeh sgt pasal kecantikan gambor game.. the important is gameplay.. gameplay best.. gempak lah game tuh.. tapi.. GC lembap tak guna gak.. game tak leh main..

Really appreaciate your all replies..

Your humble Knight.

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nVidia 7600GS or Ati Radeon x1600Pro

fin.
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post May 31 2006, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(zx7177 @ May 31 2006, 01:39 PM)
nVidia 7600GS or Ati Radeon x1600Pro

fin.
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7600GS susah gak nak carik...
X1600pro.. tgh consider...

ZX.. 3dmark result for ur x1600pro ader?

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on mine

3d05 = 4k
3d03 tak brape ingat , should be around 7k

ps , at lyp , 7600gs berlambak
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QUOTE(zx7177 @ May 31 2006, 01:45 PM)
on mine

3d05 = 4k
3d03 tak brape ingat , should be around 7k

ps , at lyp , 7600gs berlambak
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Owh.. 3d05 4k.. hmm.. mcm ok jer..
setting bf2?

7600gs berlambak..? wont mind if u tell me which shop it is...? sweat.gif

Thank you..
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http://www.hardwarezone.com

check the pricelists there

coz i dont need anything now , so i dont bother checking

and in bf2 can play all med no lag

but i set some to low , and AA at 4x
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OKAY.... Gonna og lyp later buy new GC... rclxm9.gif

Help me...

6600 series... or x1600 series....
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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ May 31 2006, 07:15 PM)
OKAY.... Gonna og lyp later buy new GC... rclxm9.gif

Help me...

6600 series... or x1600 series....
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better 6600 series
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hmm... aku pun ader pikir gak camtuh.. malas nak format comp lepas tukar ke ati gc...
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so skrg pakai gfx ape..?
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ May 31 2006, 07:24 PM)
better 6600 series
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engko punyer 6600 ddr3? BF2 setting camner?

EDITED: skrang pakai cikai galaxy 5500 OC-ed..

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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ May 31 2006, 07:28 PM)
engko punyer 6600 ddr3? BF2 setting camner?

EDITED: skrang pakai cikai galaxy 5500 OC-ed..
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aku pakai 6600gt 128ddr3..
setting bf2 suma medium plus 2xAA
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ May 31 2006, 07:31 PM)
aku pakai 6600gt 128ddr3..
setting bf2 suma medium plus 2xAA
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Harge market skarang.. RM530 ler.. sweat.gif
Poning nak beli maner satu.. rclxub.gif
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lupe lak..u mobo used agp or pcie..?
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AGP... huhuhu..
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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ May 31 2006, 07:39 PM)
AGP... huhuhu..
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aiseh..anyway 6600gt agp still ada stock lagi kot..but quite priceyyy
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Alang2 ko tukar jerlahh PCIe tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ May 31 2006, 07:43 PM)
aiseh..anyway 6600gt agp still ada stock lagi kot..but quite priceyyy
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Yupp Rm530...

QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ May 31 2006, 07:44 PM)
Alang2 ko tukar jerlahh PCIe tongue.gif
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argh... bayor pakai bulu kaki ler...
kene tukaq mobo, proc lagi..

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ARGGGHH.... HANTU!!!!! PONING... Arhh.... Settle.. aku ambik 6600gt 128MB DDR3 Atau 6600XT 128MB 256bit...!!

CHow.....

Nanti aku dah beli n operate organ baru tuh... aku post balik n main BF2 dgn lebih smooth... huhuhuuhuh...

Chow chin chow....
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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ May 31 2006, 07:54 PM)
ARGGGHH.... HANTU!!!!! PONING... Arhh.... Settle.. aku ambik 6600gt 128MB DDR3 Atau 6600XT 128MB 256bit...!!

CHow.....

Nanti aku dah beli n operate organ baru tuh... aku post balik n main BF2 dgn lebih smooth... huhuhuuhuh...

Chow chin chow....
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mana hantu..? huhu

bukan 6600xt but agp 6800xt with 256bit 128mb normal ddr..(still available kah..?)
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hmmpp...

who suggested 7600??

Can get at RM500 ar??
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ May 31 2006, 08:25 PM)
hmmpp...

who suggested 7600??

Can get at RM500 ar??
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laa..thats 7600gs pcie..not agp..must wait 1-3 months that card to come out(agp version)..
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cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif kanina...
Kedai tutup.... mad.gif
Esok jer lah..
Got tempted by sapphire x1600pro... tongue.gif but tak jadi...
BTW.. I saw this one GC... Palit GeForce 6800GS 256MB 128bit DDR3

Okay ker...?

QUOTE(mdzaboy @ May 31 2006, 08:19 PM)
mana hantu..? huhu

bukan 6600xt but agp 6800xt with 256bit 128mb normal ddr..(still available kah..?)
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Eh.. salah... Yup 6800xt 128MB 256bit DDR.. RM570 ler...

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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ May 31 2006, 10:54 PM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif kanina...
Kedai tutup.... mad.gif
Esok jer lah..
Got tempted by sapphire x1600pro... tongue.gif but tak jadi...
BTW.. I saw this one GC... Palit GeForce 6800GS 256MB 128bit DDR3

Okay ker...?
Eh.. salah... Yup 6800xt 128MB 256bit DDR.. RM570 ler...
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warghhh..6800gs..? ok la..brapa harga..? cita besar nak upgrade gfx..but..but..but..wait the 8 series..huhu whistling.gif

6800gs mmg sama taraf ngan 6800gt..kalo ada duit nya lebeh bleh up lagi ke 7800gs..huhu thumbup.gif

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Beli x700 pro sudeh...tuh dah molek benor dahh tongue.gif
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I'm using Radeon 9800SE softmodded to play BF2.
Cost me about RM300
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ May 31 2006, 11:02 PM)
warghhh..6800gs..? ok la..brapa harga..? cita besar nak upgrade gfx..but..but..but..wait the 8 series..huhu whistling.gif

6800gs mmg sama taraf ngan 6800gt..kalo ada duit nya lebeh bleh up lagi ke 7800gs..huhu thumbup.gif
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8 Series.. Kalo AGP.. bertelo lah tunggu....
Palit 6800GS tuh RM530 jer.. same gak dgn 6800GT.. (Menurut price yg d kaji akulah..)

QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ May 31 2006, 11:11 PM)
Beli x700 pro sudeh...tuh dah molek benor dahh tongue.gif
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X700pro? AGP susah gak nak carik...
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ko dok mana?...susah sgt nak carik tongue.gif

Ko carik aa kat Bulk thread...kan blambak jualan2 kat sana.Murah skit
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QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ May 31 2006, 11:24 PM)
ko dok mana?...susah sgt nak carik tongue.gif

Ko carik aa kat Bulk thread...kan blambak jualan2 kat sana.Murah skit
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HEhehe... kat KL ler... Not that susah i mean.. I got no time to round2 ronda2 kat LYP lama2.. cume ader time mase lunch break jer.. tu pun skip lunch pegi LYP... kalo pegi lepas keje.. nanti mcm tadii kedai dah tutup...

Beli kat forum nih... i tak minat sgt... bab dah sampai RM500 keatas nih.. susah..
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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ May 31 2006, 11:21 PM)
8 Series..  Kalo AGP.. bertelo lah tunggu....
Palit 6800GS tuh RM530 jer.. same gak dgn 6800GT.. (Menurut price yg d kaji akulah..)
X700pro? AGP susah gak nak carik...
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wtf..? 6800gs rm530..? perhh..murah tul..nak cekup aa satu..kalo aku ada agp slot laa...huhu whistling.gif

pcie murah k gak.. cool.gif
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X700 dah outdated, alang2 baik angkat 6800GS tu terus... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Jun 1 2006, 12:05 AM)
wtf..? 6800gs rm530..? perhh..murah tul..nak cekup aa satu..kalo aku ada agp slot laa...huhu whistling.gif

pcie murah k gak.. cool.gif
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Owh.. Perli lah kita budak AGP nih.. uhuhuh cry.gif tongue.gif Murah gak.. The

QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jun 1 2006, 12:11 AM)
X700 dah outdated, alang2 baik angkat 6800GS tu terus...  tongue.gif
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yalah... X700 lang time ago.. I thought i want to angkat that 6800GS but.. the name of that manufacturer or campany.. PALIT.. sound like palat.. heheh.. dont know bout its OC capibility... redbull.. saw that web link i posted? what do u thing bout this GC..
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post Jun 1 2006, 10:04 AM

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X700 pro dah tue uhuhuhuhuhuh blush.gif

Btw,Rm 500 tuh cukup kalo ko nak beli pape GF yang bagus cheers.gif
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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ Jun 1 2006, 12:32 AM)
yalah... X700 lang time ago.. I thought i want to angkat that 6800GS but.. the name of that manufacturer or campany.. PALIT.. sound like palat.. heheh.. dont know bout its OC capibility... redbull.. saw that web link i posted? what do u thing bout this GC..
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AGP dah tak byk choice skang ni, so kalo dpt 6800GS ngan harga tu mmg berbaloi giler aa.. tongue.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jun 1 2006, 05:50 PM

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HUHUHHHAHHAHA... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif Got the 6800GS.. lam bios 6800 GTS... blink.gif

Bosar nak mampos.. samo panjang ngan mobo aku... shocking.gif sweat.gif Ponoh lam casing aku.. sweat.gif

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post Jun 1 2006, 06:22 PM

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Aahh.. Satu hal lagi.. memandangkan aku masih sangap dalam bab2 GC power nih... GC nih ader power socket tersendiri... so cable dier nih pelik skit.. bagi aku lah.. rupe dier mcm 1 to 2 molex connector tuh.. tapi lain skit yang 1 tuh.. connect kecik mcm fan nyer connector, itu cucuk kat GC then ia split ke 2 molex connector.. kedua2 plak female molex..

Masalah nyer.. adakah aku perlu cucuk kedua2 female molex connector dgn pasangan nyer sendiri or aku just conect satu female molex jer..

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post Jun 1 2006, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ Jun 1 2006, 05:50 PM)
HUHUHHHAHHAHA...  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif Got the 6800GS.. lam bios 6800 GTS... blink.gif

Bosar nak mampos.. samo panjang ngan mobo aku...  shocking.gif sweat.gif Ponoh lam casing aku.. sweat.gif
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warghhh..aku kayoo..aku kayo...huhu
anyway conngrats coz dah ada 6800gs..aisehh rclxms.gif

kedai mana ko beli GC tuh..? brand apa ko beli eh..? state harga skali eh..? mana la tau kot nak cekup satu ke.. whistling.gif

QUOTE(convicted_knight @ Jun 1 2006, 06:22 PM)
Aahh.. Satu hal lagi.. memandangkan aku masih sangap dalam bab2 GC power nih... GC nih ader power socket tersendiri... so cable dier nih pelik skit.. bagi aku lah.. rupe dier mcm 1 to 2 molex connector tuh.. tapi lain skit yang 1 tuh.. connect kecik mcm fan nyer connector, itu cucuk kat GC then ia split ke 2 molex connector.. kedua2 plak female molex..

Masalah nyer.. adakah aku perlu cucuk kedua2 female molex connector dgn pasangan nyer sendiri or aku just conect satu female molex jer..
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just GC tuh kene pakai stand alone power..i mean dari psu ke GC tu sendiri..so tak leh kongsi power connector dengan peranti atau device yg lain..kalo tak tak cukup power..

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post Jun 2 2006, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(mdzaboy @ Jun 1 2006, 07:43 PM)
warghhh..aku kayoo..aku kayo...huhu
anyway conngrats coz dah ada 6800gs..aisehh rclxms.gif

kedai mana ko beli GC tuh..? brand apa ko beli eh..? state harga skali eh..? mana la tau kot nak cekup satu ke.. whistling.gif
just GC tuh kene pakai stand alone power..i mean dari psu ke GC tu sendiri..so tak leh kongsi power connector dengan peranti atau device yg lain..kalo tak tak cukup power..
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Aku beli kat atom computer LYP.. brand Palit.. Harga dier bagi RM550.. Kalu engko nak cekup satu.. deal dgn satu budak melayu rambut panjang.. dier ok.. cakap budak programmer keje kat salak selatan (aku lah) yg recommend kan.. maner tau dier kasi harge special..

Aku tau GC tu stand alone power.. maksud aku.. power connector GC tuh ader 2 kepala molex untuk d cucuk kan.. lagi satu connector aku dah cucuk kat GC tuh.. lago dua tuh.. kene cucuk dua2 skali ker atau satu molex jer yg kene cucuk..
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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ Jun 2 2006, 10:25 AM)
Aku beli kat atom computer LYP.. brand Palit.. Harga dier bagi RM550.. Kalu engko nak cekup satu.. deal dgn satu budak melayu rambut panjang.. dier ok.. cakap budak programmer keje kat salak selatan (aku lah) yg recommend kan.. maner tau dier kasi harge special..

Aku tau GC tu stand alone power.. maksud aku.. power connector GC tuh ader 2 kepala molex untuk d cucuk kan.. lagi satu connector aku dah cucuk kat GC tuh.. lago dua tuh.. kene cucuk dua2 skali ker atau satu molex jer yg kene cucuk..
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just satu molex jek..kalo bleh psu punya molex connect ke GC punya power . senang sikit.(jika ko ada spare molex psu la..)
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Owh.. OK. Thank you..

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