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 Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia SC wrecked car, accident during service

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TSmytaffeta
post Apr 14 2013, 12:46 AM, updated 13y ago

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I sent my car for a routine service at the Mitsubishi service centre Balakong branch (Target Orion Star Sdn Bhd) Malaysia, for the 50,000km car service on 15th March 2013, Friday at 10am. My car was in a good condition when I left the service centre. One hour later, at 11.07am, I received a call from the service centre. I was told that my car was involved in an accident when the mechanic test drove my car outside the service centre and he rammed into a tree.
I rushed over to see my car and took some photos of it. Both front airbags had deployed, the front windscreen cracked and the car bonnet was unable to open for me to view the engine. I have no idea of the internal damage because of this. I was told that the accident happened after the mechanic lost control of the car due to the steering wheel locking itself.
At 4.10pm, I met with Mr Chang Tai Yean, Senior Service and Operation Manager. He told me that the offer for compensation was to repair the car for free with original parts and return to me. Mr Chang also told me that the car had a brake malfunction, which contradicted the earlier explanation. Mr Chang then also mentioned to me that I had signed the service order on which the Terms & Condition stated they shall not be responsible for any loss or damage to my vehicle. Please then tell me who should be held responsible for this accident caused to my car?
I went to see the site of the accident with Mr Chang. We noticed that the car veered from left to right and left again before hitting the tree. There were no skid marks at all. This was raised to Mr Chang and he agreed about the tracks.
I declined Mr Chang's offer as I felt that it was an unfair compensation due to these reasons.
1. If the car had a malfunction, then Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia (MMM) and Mitsubishi Motors Japan should be brought to attention about this issue.
2. After the repair, what guarantee do I have that the car is safe for driving on the road?
3. The resale value of this car would be greatly affected due to the extensive damage it has suffered.
4. A car that has been in an accident will never be the same even after repair.
Right now I am without a car and I still have to pay for the car loan. I have to rent another car for my daily use until this issue is settled or until I can afford another car. Please tell me then who should pay for these expenses of mine? The accident that happened was not caused by me and yet I am being punished. My car was registered on 30 December 2011 and I have been driving it for less than 15 months without any incidents.
The options offered to me subsequently were totally unfair as all three would cause me to lose money. I didn't cause the accident and I have to bear the cost of this? Absurd.
MMM also distanced itself from this matter by saying that the car had no malfunction and it was human error that caused the accident. This was concluded after 1 technical check was performed on my car however I was not given the privilege to view the results. So was there really a technical check performed? I don't know.
I requested to meet with the CEO of MMM, Mr Tetsuya Oda after I was given the runaround by the Customer Service of MMM. After 10 days of my request to meet him, I was informed that he was advised by his lawyer not to meet with me. MMM would only give me a letter signed by him. That was on 2 April 2013, Tuesday. It's been 1 week and there's nothing from MMM.
On Wednesday, 10 April 2013, I went to Wong & Partners to see the lawyer, Mr Mohd Arif Imran because I wanted to get a copy of the letter from Mitsubishi Malaysia. The letter was promised last Tuesday, 2 April. Not only was I not given a copy of the letter, Mr Mohd Arif Imran refused to meet with me. Instead, he requested another lawyer from his firm who happens to be one of my associates to tell me that the letter had been sent to me via registered post. I was furious. However, I went home as there was nothing else to do. Then today I received a call from the Balakong service centre. Mr Chang said he was informed that the letter was passed to me by hand! I was shocked!
I bought this car as I have confidence in Mitsubishi cars and I did my research carefully on all the available 4x4 vehicles in the market before settling on this Pajero Sport VGT. Right now I am not sure whether I have made the right decision. I believe that this kind of customer service is highly unacceptable and unprofessional.
I quote Mitsubishi Motors' corporate philosophy below;
"We are committed to providing the utmost driving pleasure and safety for our valued customers and our community. On these commitments we will never compromise. This is the Mitsubishi Motors way."
I only wish to seek a justified settlement which is not prejudicial to me.

exactly from owner FB, and im not the owner.. another case after honda..
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post Apr 14 2013, 02:11 AM

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put your sympathy aside, MM is not wrong on this.

i do think CHANG should be fired for making this matter worse with some stupid explanations
TSmytaffeta
post Apr 14 2013, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(tititilly @ Apr 14 2013, 02:11 AM)
put your sympathy aside, MM is not wrong on this.

i do think CHANG should be fired for making this matter worse with some stupid explanations
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agree.. contradict explanation given :

1) mechanic lost control of the car due to the steering wheel locking itself.
2) Mr Chang also told me that the car had a brake malfunction; at scene no skid mark.
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post Apr 14 2013, 03:39 AM

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TS u the owner or jst fast forwading this article ?
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post Apr 14 2013, 03:59 AM

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ok im bored and had too much coffees.

1. Unless Mitsubishi Japan issued a worldwide recall, Mitsubishi(or any car company) will never admit its a car malfunction/defect.

2. If u dont think the car is repairable, call your insurance agent and ask them come and examine the car.

3. Yes, you expect MMM top up for you? dream on la.

4. False. Dont know how bad the car, not gonna comment further

Seriously, wat kind of compensations owner expecting? A brand new Pajero, 0km on the odometer? owner lives in disneyland then.
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post Apr 14 2013, 08:14 AM

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i think u should report to tribunal pengguna..
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post Apr 14 2013, 10:12 AM

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post Apr 14 2013, 11:23 AM

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I am sorry to hear that the owner faced this problem. What is the owner's expectation in term of compensation?

Very unlucky and I think not much you can ask for compensation. It just like your car running on the road and someone suddenly hit you from behind.

What you can ask for compensation is what insurance can cover for you, repairing, parts replacement. Including some money to cover while you don't have your transport during the car sent for repair. This is covered by insurance as well.

Hope everything going well.
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post Apr 14 2013, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Apr 14 2013, 11:23 AM)
I am sorry to hear that the owner faced this problem. What is the owner's expectation in term of compensation?

Very unlucky and I think not much you can ask for compensation. It just like your car running on the road and someone suddenly hit you from behind.

What you can ask for compensation is what insurance can cover for you, repairing, parts replacement. Including some money to cover while you don't have your transport during the car sent for repair. This is covered by insurance as well.

Hope everything going well.
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if hit from behind, at least just change bumper
this is like airbags deployed, windscreen cracked and bonnet cannot be open(internal damage)
and at least at that time, you're driving...this is driven by mechanic by SC
2 thing i wanna say
1. if i'm not wrong, if the mechanic is driving it and crash...since "the mechanic" name isn't in the insurance list, i dn't think can claim is it?
2. 99% of SC mechanic drive their customer car like maniac aka not the way it should be driven...rev high2, take corner like F1 when driving their customer car
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post Apr 14 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 14 2013, 11:49 AM)
if hit from behind, at least just change bumper
this is like airbags deployed, windscreen cracked and bonnet cannot be open(internal damage)
and at least at that time, you're driving...this is driven by mechanic by SC
2 thing i wanna say
1. if i'm not wrong, if the mechanic is driving it and crash...since "the mechanic" name isn't in the insurance list, i dn't think can claim is it?
2. 99% of SC mechanic drive their customer car like maniac aka not the way it should be driven...rev high2, take corner like F1 when driving their customer car
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Normally the policy shouldn't have such thing as MM wont held responsible for the accident. The car is with the company, they should take care of the car, anything happen within the service duration or under the care of the company, they should held responsible.

Ask Toyota SC and you will know, even the sales consultant wont touch the car, anything happen the SA have to bare the responsibility. There's one case before a SA involved in the accident when delivering the car to customer house, SA bare the responsibility of the accident. The insurance company can cover for the accident.

In car industry field up till now, AFAIK the company need to pay for the lost and i dont see a need to drive the car out to "test drive". Even brake malfunction wont it happen earlier or in the service area? Coincidence? **Do note the car accident occur on a corner, prone to accident for tall and big car's if corner too fast** and look at the tires. turning right side and locked there during accident = driver drive to fast, skid and hit the tree. So obvious. If not why ABS dont deploy, ABS malfunction also.. doh.gif

And steering if say malfunction normally is 'loose steering' hence involve in the accident, wont the mechanic notice the loose steering before driving it out.

And both of these problem and be pre-check-ed in the service area and no need to drive out to the roads unless finish servicing. Mitsubishi in Miri every-time do general service they will plug in the control console to pre-check the whole car system. The computer plug into the car electronic module to check for errors. I dont know whether they do it there or not.

They just evade so no need to handle this case.

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Apr 14 2013, 12:20 PM)
Normally the policy shouldn't have such thing as MM wont held responsible for the accident. The car is with the company, they should take care of the car, anything happen within the service duration or under the care of the company, they should held responsible.

Ask Toyota SC and you will know, even the sales consultant wont touch the car, anything happen the SA have to bare the responsibility. There's one case before a SA involved in the accident when delivering the car to customer house, SA bare the responsibility of the accident. The insurance company can cover for the accident.

In car industry field up till now, AFAIK the company need to pay for the lost and i dont see a need to drive the car out to "test drive". Even brake malfunction wont it happen earlier or in the service area? Coincidence? **Do note the car accident occur on a corner, prone to accident for tall and big car's if corner too fast** and look at the tires. turning right side and locked there during accident = driver drive to fast, skid and hit the tree. So obvious. If not why ABS dont deploy, ABS malfunction also.. doh.gif

And steering if say malfunction normally is 'loose steering' hence involve in the accident, wont the mechanic notice the loose steering before driving it out.

And both of these problem and be pre-check-ed in the service area and no need to drive out to the roads unless finish servicing. Mitsubishi in Miri every-time do general service they will plug in the control console to pre-check the whole car system. The computer plug into the car electronic module to check for errors. I dont know whether they do it there or not.

They just evade so no need to handle this case.

Just my point of view. thumbup.gif
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i agree...those SC mechanic always drive very fast
must have lose control thn crash as well
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post Apr 14 2013, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(tititilly @ Apr 14 2013, 03:39 AM)
TS u the owner or jst fast forwading this article ?
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no im not the owner.. regarding the insurance thing, can the owner claim her insurance?
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you should engage a lawyer to firstly send out a letter of demand.

You should get proper compensation for this.
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post Apr 14 2013, 02:49 PM

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If only the car had ESP.

I think no need to give tips here, TS is not the owner. But what does help the owner is to spread the news. The more known the case is the more willing will Mitsubishi be to help the owner.

Besides, they already offered to fix it. Problem is the owner wants more (and I can understand it, it is a nearly new car. Maybe if the owner is willing to top up a bit since he is getting a new car...?).
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post Apr 14 2013, 06:52 PM

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I would have taken the original parts and free repair order immediately. then loss of use claim from them, main thing is get car back first, then late things decide again.

fact is the cat had been crashed nothing the universe can do to reverse that so cut your losses and take the car back otherwise the only loser is the owner
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post Apr 15 2013, 10:49 AM

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I think MMM have offered a few options that are quite fair, IINM. Personally I would take option 2, as long as the warranty for the replacement used vehicle still stands. Whether or not the car is sold as third-hand later on does very little harm to the resale value.

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Why would the 2nd option be a third hand car when selling?

That is what i would pick, if I could have a word in the choice of car. Quite reasonable.
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post Apr 15 2013, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 15 2013, 11:43 AM)
Why would the 2nd option be a third hand car when selling?

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MMM will buy her a second-hand car, means she is the second owner la. After she sells it, it will be third-hand. She's worries it will affect the value.

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 15 2013, 11:43 AM)
Why would the 2nd option be a third hand car when selling?

That is what i would pick, if I could have a word in the choice of car. Quite reasonable.
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MMM offer used unit as a replacement. But they didn't specify what "used" is. Showroom unit? Testdrive unit? Used car from 3rd party used car dealer unit?

They sure got guts to offer option 3 where owner will lose money in depreciation & bank interest paid.

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