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post Apr 17 2013, 10:12 AM

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Guys, Saga Executive 1.6L is no longer in production? I just knew about this when I ask SA while surveying a car. doh.gif What is the reason for stop the production?

And 2.6% interest rate can be considered a good rate? Thanks.
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post Apr 17 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 17 2013, 10:14 AM)
saga exec 1.6 no more. now saga flx 1.6 SE selling. that SA slowpoke

mine 2.6% also
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 17 2013, 10:20 AM)
Quite good. Normally Proton can get 2.8%-3.0% only.
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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Apr 17 2013, 10:21 AM)
I think is 9 years loan right?To get this rate of interest~
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Kuching SA offer me 2.9 and Miri SA offer me 2.6. I think for 7 and 9 years because they didn't mention anything. I think will go for 9 years. Need to allocate money to something else.

Kuching:
OTR price=RM 52,512.90
Downpayment 10%= Rm5,312.90
Monthly 7 years= Rm676
Monthly 9 years= Rm552

Miri:
OTR price= Not metioned
Down payment 10%= Not mentioned
Monthly 7 years= Roughly RM649.00
Monthly 9 years= Roughly RM530.00.

But I'm quite suspicious when the Miri SA say roughly. BTW, Executive CVT and SE CVT are two different model right? Gosh, so hard to recognize Saga model. The website are not friendly, and I'm a newbie some more.
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post Apr 17 2013, 12:00 PM

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Can help me clear this up? This is their PM. So confusing. rclxub.gif Or maybe I'm too stupid to understand. Keep in mind that I'm totally new to car. Which model that they are referring to:
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For the Executive CVT, with 10% down payment, 7 years loan is roughly RM649.00 per month, whereas 9 years loan is roughly RM530.00.

For the SE CVT, also with 10% down payment, 7 years loan is roughly RM706.00, whereas 9 years loan is roughly RM577.00.


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Metallic colour... p.saga for 1.6L only 1 spec for now... no more others spec... 1.6L executive Cvt= rm52,512.90
downpayment minimum 10%= Rm5,312.90
Monthly 9years = Rm552
Monthly 7years= Rm676
Full Loan can try*** Term and Condition Apply

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post Apr 17 2013, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 17 2013, 12:03 PM)
Executive CVT = 1.3L

SE CVT = 1.6L
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Okay, thanks. Proton website are soooo outdated. doh.gif Anwar's fault.
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post Apr 17 2013, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 17 2013, 12:10 PM)
got anything to do with politician meh?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Apr 17 2013, 12:11 PM)
Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Anwar??  rclxub.gif
How did he get dragged in2 this thread?  doh.gif  sweat.gif
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That's just a troll. laugh.gif I prefer not to comment when it's involve with politic. Many people might get butt hurt later. Politic is like a religious in Malaysia, you stand firm for what you believe. No correct or wrong. Okay, back to Sagarian.

Seems like the different for monthly payment for both 1.3 CVT and 1.6 CVT are only:
-1.3: 7 years loan is roughly RM649.00, whereas 9 years loan is roughly RM530.00.
-1.6: 7 years loan is roughly RM706.00, whereas 9 years loan is roughly RM577.00.
-7 years: RM 57/ month
-9 years: RM 47/ month

BTW, I can't find East Malaysia price for 1.3 CVT and 1.6 CVT. sweat.gif From comparison above, better get 1.6 CVT. Any other aspect to consider too?
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post Apr 17 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Apr 17 2013, 12:34 PM)
Don't compare like this u wont get any results ~ coz the $$ different really is immaterial, go for a test drive let ur feel tell u whether 1.3 or 1.6 ~ coz the feel totally different
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What is the different? 1.6 really help in acceleration? I was going to test drive but so no time when you work as a coolie. Eh, what's the price ah? I tried google but silly internet doesn't allow me to open most of the website.
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post Apr 17 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Apr 17 2013, 02:08 PM)
1.6 VS 1.3
Leather seat vs Fabric Seat,
More power vs Less Power,
Maintenance More Expensive VS Slightly Least Expensive,
Max Speed Higher VS Max Speed Lower,
R15 Rim VS R14 Rim
Fully Body Kit Vs Normal Body

But the selling price is
More Expensive VS Less Expensive

RoadTax and Insurance is
More Expensive VS Less Expensive
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Why 1.6 maintenance are expensive than 1.3? And how much is the road tax insurance? Seems like you own the 1.6... I'm thinking of grabbing the 1.3 and change the rim, leather seat etc on my own. Hmmm...
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post Apr 17 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Apr 17 2013, 04:34 PM)
Sorry I'm driving 1.3 Exec Manual ..
eqmal197 driving 1.6 CVT

For 1.6 CVT roatax RM90, 1.3 only RM70 per year
Insurance rate you can see from proton brouchur roughly the same
Maintenance how much different you can go proton there download the guide ~
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Up to you to do so but not advise ~ coz 15" rim on 1.3 got abit heavy ~
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Owh... I see. I'm only planning to install 14". 15" are too large for me. I'm not a heavy modifier. Just prefer something smart but not stock look. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 17 2013, 04:44 PM)
bigger number means more high maintenance

before owning current car, i buy a used jap car with 2198cc, kononnya jap car even used car one, it still good. more goodier than new proton. that time im very langsi mahu berlagak pakai kereta jepun. then i used and abuse the car. in the end, i sell it because cannot stand with its maintenance and road tax. then i bought my current car brand new

about its maintenance, cannot see how deep i want to maintain as my car still not 1 year old and just 12k km. still servicing follow service table. between 1.3 and 1.6, servicing is not much different, only if (let say) engine piston give me problem, then i will start headache. 1.6 piston not same with 1.3 and of course judging from its cc numbering 1.6 will cost more. other than that no need to think about it. both variant all use same

but come think about modding your 1.3. change rim, put leather seat etc etc. if you overspend and make calculation after you mod, you will be surprise it may be expensive than 1.6 SE althought 1.6 SE is the most highend variant (leather seat and steering, 15 inch rim, bodykit, dual airbags, abs and ebd etc)

but its up to u as buyer. choice is yours

just my 2 cent opinion
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That's a very honest comment I ever read. notworthy.gif Regarding the overspend, you are correct there. But again I think I should have more choice with aftermarket product right? Seat color, rim design, body kit design but I realize that 1.3 doesn't have ABS. Your comment struck my thoughts. Hehe...

So, have you try both variant? And what is your honest comment?
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post Apr 17 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 17 2013, 05:08 PM)
there are many aftermarket for saga outside. every acc shop sure find one. but in here, most of thing advertise here is not called 'aftermarket'. its called 'poison'. ask other members here. tons of poison sure emerge once you ask for only one poison. e.g. garybenjamin's ride very the smooth. then find out he has gc, ericteoh vs and fs. his car looks stock but its engine has been juiced ady

for 1.3 variant, what i know is compulsory all fitted with driver's airbags. if not mistaken, exec variant has abs. 1.6 got all

i've tried my sis, 1.3 cvt basic. smooth ride as it use cvt gb. good pickup too. but comparing with mine, moer power interm of speed and pickup. yes... the power of 1.6. but only letdown for both is lagging issue. its throtle respon is laggy due to saga use drive-by-wire rathern than drive-by-steel cable. but this laggy issue can be solved by put the respective poison into my car

my 2 cent comment
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So, changing the poison won't void the warranty?
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post Apr 17 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 17 2013, 05:54 PM)
be very cautious that some SC may void ur warranty even when u change rims. can say u change rims damage ur wheel here and there, and anything that is related.
if can afford why not get the 1.6 for the extra goodies?
instead of modding the 1.3 which will void ur warranty lah.
also if u ask me, as time pass by, when u actually need more juice out of the car, u will not regret buying the 1.6.
and the 1.6 with 15'' wheel is more stable.
just some of my recommendation. it is recommended to tahan itchy 2 years before u even start thinking about modding anything.
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This is what I'm talking about. The rim. I read maybe at Exora, changing the rim will void the warranty. AFAIK, rim and other mod which is reversible shouldn't void the warranty. Is Proton already change their policy, or all other manufacturer do the same thing?
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post Apr 17 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 17 2013, 06:13 PM)
all car do have the policy that does not allow u to mod the car. if everyone is modding the car and somehow it does damage to the car and went back to them to claim warranty, then car manufacturer will eat dust edi.
however it really depends on the SC u go to. Some SC give no care on what u do to the car.
some SC a bit minor thing that is not logical also can say void warranty.
Also note that, if they happen to intend to void ur warranty, please pray that there is no major thing happen to ur car like what ckdenion car. if that time he modded the car, he sure kaulat.

Dun know how true is it, but people say car manufacturer give their best at their best variant even in the workmanship. which I personally suggest taking the 1.6SE.
u will appreciate the extra power and stability one day when u can't get the same from the 1.3.
ps: it doesnt mean that if u cannot afford then u go force urself to buy the 1.6 lah. later u buy liao come no money eat dun come find me. Bcoz I always suggest that if u can afford, go for better one.
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Yup I afford too. Thinking getting Vios last time but no use pay extra IMO since it's both sedan. Not to mention that the rear room are very, cramped. Now stuck for Saga vs Exora. Hehe...

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post Apr 17 2013, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 17 2013, 07:21 PM)
Eh? Saga n exora both different league
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I know but still thinking the pro and con. Saga, I might need to upgrade to MPV in the future. I often going out with lots of family member and friends. Exora, large space and can fit many passengers but I'm not that really often going out in large group. Usually me and my GF only. Kinda a waste to think of it. But likely, will buy Saga. Cash ready but should I wait after election? I'm not in a rush too. I just need a car before December. Thinking of buying car on August, September or October.

QUOTE(dares @ Apr 17 2013, 07:43 PM)
Who say 1.6l FLX SE maintenance more expensive than 1.3 Executive?????????????

Same amount of EO, same amount of spark plug, same amount of CVT fluid, same amount of brake fluid, same amount of airbags, same amount of steering fluid etc. etc.

The only thing more expensive are the tires.
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Why with the tire mate?
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post Apr 17 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Apr 17 2013, 08:56 PM)
15 inch vs 14 inch rubbers
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Oh, i forget about that. Hehe...

QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 17 2013, 08:57 PM)
15'' tyre more expensive than 14''.
other things are the same.
they say the price of the car will fall, but not sure how much. and it will be progressively not immediately. it might not affect much on ur purchase but the price will fall when u buy at the end of the year. 1.6SE might sold out too. And u never know who will win the GE. if the car price increase after someone win, then is a waste of not buying now. lets gamble on luck XD
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If I buy the 1.3, I might install a new rim to 15" on the next following week. tongue.gif So, should be the same amount for tyre. sweat.gif

Honestly, I'm a bit skeptical regarding the price cut as BN said progressively and PKR said price cut without saying how many percent and how long to accomplished. Even there's no such promise in election, I shall wait until August too because I still have my time to invest the deposit amount. brows.gif Anyway, how much is the price for CVT 1.3 and CVT 1.6 OTR, for solid color?
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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 17 2013, 09:12 PM)
I rather DIY. those SC want them to solve here rattling, they dunno do what then nearby rattling but there no rattling. haiz.
U will spend more on petrol when u put 15'' on ur 1.3.
dun care about who win and whether how much they cut price.
if they cut price and follow other country, they remove subsidy for petrol, insurance premium high, this and that increase.
if everything low, then good.
not sure about the price.
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Thanks for pointing that out. Really forget about that. doh.gif
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post Apr 17 2013, 09:26 PM

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So many 1.6L poison. Wait for test drive... But so no time, poor coolie...
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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 17 2013, 09:28 PM)
take the 1.6 lah. with the good looks, comfort car, nice handling, stable, bigger engine.
edi got 15'' by default and if u dun want stock, 1.6SE stock rims can fetch better price also.
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Okay... Likely will get the 1.6L. I need to arrange test drive next month. BTW, the rate 2.6% are not for Saga. For Exora only. doh.gif Wait that SA reply my Facebook message.
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 17 2013, 09:58 PM)
i kasi racun in detail, what 1.6 have
- when shoot and stay static at 2krpm, u feel car very eager to speed up from 0 to 70kmh
- cornering on 80kmh even on synergy m5 (factory fitted)
- all leather, so u wont think how to wash it
- all flx meter panel color in white with red jarum and konfirm u envy it much. but in 1.6, the last speed indicates 220kmh  brows.gif
- 15 inch with 50 profile donut. no need bother to change rim unless u dun like its design
- full lips and skirt, even not match body color (if u got photoshop, try match with body color, look more awful)
- aux & usb on HU (other flx variant owner, please confirm u guys get this or not)

what i not like
- no mudguard. one handful of debris, sand or small chip rock gathered in rear wheel well. more terrible after run on mud  shakehead.gif
- IINM, max inch to put rim is 15. bigger than than still ok but afraid it will knock fender. saga wheel well are small
- some minor problem. typical proton prob but can proton can solved. no worries
- wiper after 2 3 month sudah kaput. wiper no warranty so buy outside
- im glad i buy metallic. if  buy solid color, means u put extra care. i wont explain here. ask around esp. reapers. he's kaki MERZ
- stock tyre is the cheapest, greenest and useless (silverstone synergy m5) as what other member claim. but im not. 
- no engine cover. until now im still afraid to wash engine bay

what 1.6 dun have
- YOU to drive  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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-Sigh. I hate that design. But still better than metal with cap rim.
-Really that bad if skirt and body same color?
-I'm interested with solid white. What's wrong with solid color? What is kaki MERZ?
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 17 2013, 10:40 PM)

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Too bad MERZ auto spa are not available at East Malaysia. doh.gif
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post Apr 18 2013, 07:32 AM

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SA just replied me. The interest rate for Saga are 3%. doh.gif High isn't it?
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2013, 08:36 AM)
Proton's solid white is proned to discolor (turn into yellow), unless you rajin wax it or coat it. Last time my 6 months old white gaga compare to new white gaga, the difference quite noticable.
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Oh, bad news. Only black and red color left. White are so sexy. sad.gif

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