Outline ·
[ Standard ] ·
Linear+
Proton Saga FLX 1.3 upgrade/modify, Improve performance & fuel consumption
|
theanswer
|
Apr 10 2013, 12:46 AM
|
|
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 9 2013, 04:06 PM) Clearly, you did not get my point. Even if TS do spend 8k on upgrades, it is still cheaper than buying another car. What new non-national car can you get for RM50k? If the TS bought a dugong and asking about the same upgrades, I'm sure you will show a very different attitude. And I would love to see how you manage to arrive at the 10k price tag for all the things listed. true. but for 10k..i might go straight for bolt on turbo. even at low boost i bet it can easily reach 130hp.
|
|
|
|
|
|
theanswer
|
Apr 10 2013, 12:50 AM
|
|
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 10 2013, 12:31 AM) I never said torsion beam is comparable to multilink. You said torsion beam is not for aggressive driving, I am just pointing out it can be, if set up nicely. But a properly setup multilink will of course be superior. I've also driven rear multilink cars with rubbish handling, so there. hehe from what i read..local media praised megane torsion beam as superior(ask paultan or hezeri from topgear). it's very hard to compare with other..unless they produced 2 types of megane one with tb, another one wth ML suspension. in fact even civic ep3 or fn series torsion beam is ot that bad. kia optima/hyundai sonata use multilink..but never heard any good praise for their handling? it's all about tuning.
|
|
|
|
|
|
theanswer
|
Apr 10 2013, 12:51 AM
|
|
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 10 2013, 12:50 AM) Well the argument is purely academic. If I have 10k to spend on performance, BOT will be a natural choice. Except before BOT you need to fork out for better brakes and suspensions lest you boost into longkang  bot into longkang. heheheh.
|
|
|
|
|
|
theanswer
|
Apr 10 2013, 12:58 AM
|
|
QUOTE(kimsim @ Apr 10 2013, 12:37 AM) Currently I had 2 cars, one is Sentra n16 using multi-link really felt the car not so stable as torsion beam on my sylphy now. Even my ex Livina also using torsion beam can feel the car handering much better on cornering. Do you know why? Torsion beam meant like added racing bar to tie together on both side. actually sentra n16 not really multilink..on paper yes. but actually i dunno what to call it. suspension setup mostly based on tuning. torsion bar on tb suspesion already works like anti roll bar..but adding extra arb will give more torsion rigidity. cars like vios got built in arb inside the beam. to enhance its rigidity. usually manufacturer will built one tb system to suit several car..from there they can decide the size of arb to 'enhance' the rigidity in order to suit several type vehicle.
|
|
|
|
|
|
theanswer
|
Apr 10 2013, 08:43 AM
|
|
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 10 2013, 01:00 AM) Why does it still handle like a boat  it's all abt tuning. the main advantage of tb is cheap, durable and use less bushing, simple, space saving. some manufacturer like proton, renault,ford put more effort and budget in tuning department. the rest like toyota, nissan..just so2 with the handling department.
|
|
|
|
|
|
theanswer
|
Apr 10 2013, 08:45 AM
|
|
QUOTE(damone @ Apr 10 2013, 08:14 AM) The reason why the megane and other sports car using torsion beam has good handling is the chassis itself. See how rigid it is. Compared to our saga. yep true. but saga rigidity is good among its class. i wont compare it with more expensive sports car..but if u drive old standard wira and saga blm..u can feel saga blm is more solid and rigid.
|
|
|
|
|