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post Apr 8 2013, 01:14 PM, updated 13y ago

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I re-fuelled RM40 last thursday/friday and I only went to the market once. I didn't go anywhere after that.

Just now I wanted to start my car to buy food, and then kenot start. I tot is bateri but I pasang radio ok only.

Then I see fuel indicator say fuel is ZERO!! shocking.gif shocking.gif WHERE DID IT ALL GO?!


Only yesterday I checked the fuel tank was full cry.gif What's going on?


Should I bring my car to bengkel takut rosak?

Did someone really stole my fuel? sad.gif



- Already fill in 5litre worth of fuel... Waited for 5 minutes. No leakage.

- The fuel indicator still blinking showing this:

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- Check minyak hitam, still OK. Checked battery, still ok.

- Radio, fan, lights all still working. Can still play CD some more.

- Still kenot start. Got sound "Chuk...chuk.." like that. Fuel indicator still shows zero.




UPDATE:


- Neighbor came to inspect. Battery problem LOL.

- He changed the battery for me too. He said the battery kiok dy... I was careless because I thought normal battery last 1.5 years /2 years... but mine only like 1 year 4 months. Mana tahu battery tak ikut schedule tepat and die early.

- Now everything works fine dy. Fuel tank also penuh. Wheeee!

- Men are so awesome! I respect sama kaum lelaki banyak2. rclxms.gif blush.gif thumbup.gif






So lesson learnt:

- If car sounds 'Chuk..chuk...' and not 'chhhhrkrkrkrrkkrrkrkrkrkrhchchck' turn on lampu besar, lampu dalam, radio everything, and try to start the car for 2-3 times. If battery problem, sure the 'chuk chuk' sound will disappear by the second or third time you wanna start because battery not enough power to start your engine.

- Learned how to change own battery dy. Just need sepana and know where to cucuk.

- Learned how to check for leakage bawah kereta.

- Learned to spare battery inside car when your battery reach 1 year old already, just in case. Also need to buy sepana and jumpstarter for emergencies.



Thanks for the tips you guys! Love you all. wub.gif wub.gif

This post has been edited by StationMonkey: Apr 8 2013, 08:07 PM
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Apr 8 2013, 01:15 PM)
where did u park ur car
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Right in front of the block.

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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:16 PM)
yes, yesterday my wife car kena kobek... They steal 1 petak worth of fuel, stole the fuel cap as well... Mother farker people...
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My fuel cap also gone... sad.gif

How am I supposed to refuel?

QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Apr 8 2013, 01:16 PM)
Yes there are people doing that. By the way what car you driving? rm40 full tank?
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Thexs is correct

QUOTE(thexs @ Apr 8 2013, 01:18 PM)
Mebbe Viva.
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QUOTE(sI Taufu @ Apr 8 2013, 01:22 PM)
mind to share locations?
maybe you need to notify nearby securities (if there got any)
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My location is pretty confidential, if I say where people will know right away.
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Apr 8 2013, 01:24 PM)
dehydrate must be~
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Dehydrate? In the tank? Is that even possible?

QUOTE(Spectreoutreach @ Apr 8 2013, 01:24 PM)
Yes . However u.might bring your car for inspection 1 st
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Can't even move... how to bring for inspection.

QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 8 2013, 01:25 PM)
Your market must be 100km away. Empty also don't no.
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Market is 15 mins away. I drove to Kedah 5hour with full tank, arrive still got 3 more bars.
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 01:31 PM)
When you open the drain valve, the tank will drain damn fast if they can get the fuel cap off as well...
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Then how? cry.gif

QUOTE(hg_runt @ Apr 8 2013, 01:32 PM)
kena siphon kot, fuel door ada kesan kene kopak?
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No kesan

QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 01:32 PM)
Go and tapau 2L of petrol back first and test, pour in and see whether leaking or not.

Fuel cap can go any spare parts shop or accessory shop to buy la... few ringgit only.
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Then I have to wait another person to pour while I tengok bawah la
Fuel pump station kinda far some more. Haiz.

QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 8 2013, 01:33 PM)
wow SM drives !

jokes aside, any signs of tamper around the fuel cap/cover ? underside of car ? leaks ? petrol smell ?
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The pintu lubang minyak no signs of tampering.
Underside of car seems dry.
No petrol smell as well.
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Apr 8 2013, 01:42 PM)
Viva RM40 full tank ah? Really? shocking.gif
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RM50 if new car, RM55 if older.
But with that RM50 you can drive all the way to sempadan thailand and still 2-3bars left.

QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 01:43 PM)
Aiyah, no friends free to help you test meh? Or call AAM if you subscribed to them.

Check your car's manual, it might tell you where the drain valve is located so you can check yourself also...
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I'll wait my neighbor come home first. Right now nobody nearby to help.
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 8 2013, 01:45 PM)
Lets guess SM car.. Red Viva ?
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How do you know it's red? Do I give any vibe that I own a red car?? shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:48 PM)
Ppl can easily steal your petrol from your car, but steal until u unable to start, need some very serious expert, cause even your tank is empty(best most ppl can do), there are still fuel in pipes connecting to the engine, maybe unable to last long, but still u can travel a bit. if seriously empty, most likely some US secret agent is working something on you.

If you unable to start your car, and most of the time(depends on car) the fuel meter just wont work.
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That's why I'm quite baffled. I still can't be certain whether it's leakage, or someone stole the fuel, or fault in the car engine or w/e. AFAIHC, there is no fuel residue or fuel smell on the road, and it was working fine just 3 days ago.

QUOTE(glitterRAMEE @ Apr 8 2013, 01:49 PM)
dude, u really deserve it..
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What did I do?
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post Apr 8 2013, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 8 2013, 01:51 PM)
spidey sense  wub.gif
see:
here it is labeled red, it is a natural tendency to mark something of our own with an identification (color)
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Unfortunately you're wrong. It's not red.

QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 01:54 PM)
Does Viva's fuel meter show the fuel level even when the engine is dead?

Or you just assuming that the tank is empty because you cannot start the car... (-.-)"

Describe the sound when you try to start the car?
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Usually kereta rosak sounds like "Chruuukchrkchrkchkrhckrhckhkrhckrhckrhkchr" right

this one is "Chuk..chuk.."

Blink blink indicator

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Doesn't look like got oil spillage right

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QUOTE(dichoz @ Apr 8 2013, 01:54 PM)
lol last time  my proton saga fuel nut from below. they opened it n drained all my petrol . lol .. i called mechanic and he cant stop laughing when he found out somebody stole my fuel. lol i was stunned too ahah
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Means what... someone really stole your fuel or your fuel still ada but you assumed wrongly?

QUOTE(narf03 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:55 PM)
there are many reason why u cannot start your car, without fuel is one of many possibilities, if you really want to know still got fuel or not, there is a screw right under your petrol tank, just loosen it and if petrol leak out pretty fast means still got petrol.
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Which one is the petrol tank?

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post Apr 8 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 8 2013, 02:12 PM)
wow u're good. silver, as posted above ?

(aduh melepas  sweat.gif )
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Can be silver also unsure.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(mikicun @ Apr 8 2013, 02:04 PM)
maybe u forget to recap the fuel cap and accidentaly close the fuel cover, leaving the fuel cap  on top of petrol pump kiosk?

Becoz for gasoline to totally dry out, there must be an opening somewhere for the volatile liquid to seep out?
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Fuel cap still intact and tight

QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 02:13 PM)
Well if the indicator is supposed to show fuel tank empty, then yeah, probably someone stole your petrol...

Petrol evaporates fast anyway, it won't still be on the ground...
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Weekends I didn't go anywhere so I didn't checked the car at all... Not sure if can evaporate in 2 days...

QUOTE(Bujal.x @ Apr 8 2013, 02:13 PM)
kau lupa nak tutup ketat2 kot~~
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Yeah RM40 punya fuel can evaporate in 2 days time till completely dry.

And no, i tutup ketat d
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post Apr 8 2013, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 02:19 PM)
I meant that if it had spilled on the road, it would have evaporated anyway so no trace at all on the road for you to see...
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2 litre worth of fuel enough or not to see if got leakage? I only got mineral water bottle atm.
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post Apr 8 2013, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 02:19 PM)
I meant that if it had spilled on the road, it would have evaporated anyway so no trace at all on the road for you to see...
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QUOTE(Bujal.x @ Apr 8 2013, 02:27 PM)
then your meter minyak problem la kot~normally yours rm40 full tank right? isi full tanks first then wait(left your car at home and dun drive it).if suddenly meter drop again u isi fulltank lagi..that time if u isi rm40 jugak lagi memang ada something wrong la~
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QUOTE(hg_runt @ Apr 8 2013, 02:51 PM)
belum setel lagi ke mas?
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Hey everyone, I already tuang 5litre fuel dalam kereta.

Waited for 5 minutes... no leakage from the bottom.

Unfortunately the fuel indicator still show blink blink like no fuel... still kenot start sad.gif

Already check minyak hitam and battery water..... all is ok.
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Bujal.x @ Apr 8 2013, 03:36 PM)
according to my fren,there's a bolt beneath the tank~can unscrewed the bolt to drain the petrol inside the tank..perhaps youre the victim?
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I dunno... already fill in gas, no leaking

QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ Apr 8 2013, 03:58 PM)
Rupa rupanya battery habis.hahahhaha
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Check battery dy, battery ok. Radio can on, lights can on.

QUOTE(GodTier @ Apr 8 2013, 04:21 PM)
what kind of car ?

drain valve ?

i oni know got air bleed and fuel suction line besides the main filling inlet
dont bullshit la ...fuel tank where got drain valve ???
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Biba

QUOTE(mikicun @ Apr 8 2013, 04:24 PM)
how long from the day u bought the car.. Have u chg the battery? Normal batt can stand for 1-1.5 yrs.. Some even go to 2yrs... But thats about it...

Probably batt kaput already...still have around 12.1v to light the lights n bulbs but not enuf to start the engine
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But radio and lampu can on wor... The fuel indicator still shows zero even after refilling

QUOTE(frequency @ Apr 8 2013, 04:24 PM)
better check ur car petrol tank leaks or not...

dangerous it may explode halfway u drive ..
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not leaking
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(hg_runt @ Apr 8 2013, 04:32 PM)
mastura cube try start kete dengan Kunci spare, mana tau chip dalam kunci tu dah mabuk.

sebab pernah member tak boleh start tiba2, dia tuka kunci spare ok terus.
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already did that just now. no changes.

QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 04:38 PM)
I don't think it is anything to do with your fuel levels dy... sounds more electrical than anything...

If you have jump cables, try jump starting with your neighbour's car to see if miki is right about the battery. (if you have voltmeter to read the battery's voltage right away, also good)
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Yeah I also think electrical.
I sked got squirrel or cat lompat under my cat and got stuck there and dieded.

Have jump cables, but neighbor's husband still not yet back. Will have to wait him first if wanna jumpstart. No voltmeter.
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 8 2013, 04:41 PM)
Oh ya SM, you've mentioned about the chkrchkr and chuk chuk sounds. Check for starter or alternator problems, my car also chuk chuk last year, turned out to be a defective alternator. Check the battery as well
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DAFUQ IS AN ALTERNATOR?????????????
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 04:45 PM)
Don't need the alternator to start the car... your car battery is the one that provides the spark for ignition. Alternator provides the electricity once the engine is running, and also keeps your battery charged.

When your alternator is dead, your car runs off the battery, thus your battery (no matter how new) will be flat in no time...
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But battery water still got. Do you think it could be spark plug problem?

QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Apr 8 2013, 04:48 PM)
Dah masuk gear neutral belum? Kau gear masih d or r sure cant start...
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Yerrrr I know la. Already put P.

QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 8 2013, 04:49 PM)
see post in prev page

battery full > car starts > alternator defective > battery drain > engine off > can't start
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I checked the battery, the water seems to be on safe level. Where can i check the alternator?
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(badang_1785 @ Apr 8 2013, 04:54 PM)
last time i got this problem. battery is weak or kong already
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so should i jumpstart? If not why the fuel indicator shows empty?

QUOTE(tessei @ Apr 8 2013, 04:54 PM)
windows central lock tertekan....  try unlock back...  - kete myvi
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already unlock. i never really lock it in the first place

QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Apr 8 2013, 04:54 PM)
Then how come ur car sekejap ada ...sekejap tak ada the gear indicator 1?
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Gear indicator doesn't show the gear at all even if it's in P.
Already tried switching it to 'N', no changes.

If gear prob then why fuel indicator shows empty when tank is full?
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post Apr 8 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(badang_1785 @ Apr 8 2013, 04:58 PM)
no dont jumpstart.. go buy new battery.. battery is kong.. cabut battery pegi bawa kedai cek..
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some ppl say kena jumpstart... some ppl say no need.. mana satu ni rclxub.gif

QUOTE(differ @ Apr 8 2013, 04:58 PM)
Nothing to do with battery water, if your alternator was not charging the battery, then got ocean inside also no use...

Spark plug problem, you would have most likely notice when you were driving before, i.e. car jerks a fair bit when you try to accelerate, cos not all cylinders were combusted properly/completely.

Alternator cannot check on your own la, you will need a mechanic to check that.

Next step i would suggest is to try a jump-start first.
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Car wasn't jerking when accelerate. Before this no problem whatsoever.
But poster above say don't jumpstart.. how? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 8 2013, 04:59 PM)
FYI, alternator:

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price for Viva not sure, maybe around 100-200 ?
mine kena 400 for Bosch recond
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Oh thanks, i prepare money la just in case. Is below RM400 normal market price? I sked I kena tipu nanti dengan mekanik


QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Apr 8 2013, 05:00 PM)
U open ur fuel tank masukkan tiub panjang try check got fuel or not.. If yes then ur sensor got problem...
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I just filled in 5L with my own hands.
Confirm got fuel la.
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post Apr 8 2013, 08:00 PM

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Updated guys. Bateri problem LOL.


Although battery water still got, the hayat reach the end dy. I was careless because I was told normally battery last 1.5/2 years.. ini baru 1year 4 months. I thought memang tepat2 ikut schedule lol.


Now working fine dy. Fuel also penuh. Seems like there's no toyol minyak after all.
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post Apr 8 2013, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(regiuseven @ Apr 8 2013, 09:07 PM)
ok good, other parts no prob ya
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yes. i checked in he checked already. No prob. just the battery.

hehe. i am really impressed with men right now. Macam gandalf datang je semua fixed wub.gif

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