QUOTE(etsuko @ Oct 9 2006, 10:19 AM)
You're getting from the States? you b*stard.
sigh, to buy or to wait and pay more for a C2D MB without extended memory.. is the question now...
Going to get the laptop shipped over to my sister, who is attending boarding school in Connecticut. I don't feel like waiting until I actually go to the United States myself as that will be in Fall 2007. I want a pretty laptop beforehand.
Who knows how long we'll have to wait before the MB / MBP C2D~ I think it's worthwhile to wait for the MBP with C2D as it has been out on market for a longer time period than the MB. A second revision could very well have design changes for the better, perhaps even an updated graphics adapter.
QUOTE(artyca @ Oct 9 2006, 05:58 PM)
wow... so many horror stories to talk about?? But whew... nothing so far with my macbook!
Copied from Wikipedia's articles on the MacBook and the MacBook Pro:
QUOTE(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook#Problems)
Problems
A number of MacBook owners have reported a strange "mooing" noise coming from their laptops.[10] This is caused by the sound created by the fans as they turn on and then subsequently off continuously. (Although Apple has released a firmware update that makes the fans kick in at a lower temperature, thus stopping the mooing sound and making the machines run cooler altogether.) One MacBook owner previously complained about a similar problem with a MacBook Pro, which Apple replaced[11]. The computer has also been reported to have a tendency to run hot, which some blame on poor application of thermal paste. Ars Technica's Clint Ecker recorded the temperature of his Macbook rising above 80 degrees Celsius. [12] Users are reporting[1] no more "mooing" noise and cooler temperatures after applying the SMC Firmware update[2] that was released by Apple on August 17, which runs the fans slowly and continuously to prevent "mooing". The new firmware is also different in that it responds to both CPU usage and temperature, rather than temperature alone. This allows the cooling fans to become more active before the temperature gets a chance to reach undesirable levels. In a sense, temperature control is now more about prevention rather than reaction.
Other MacBook owners complained of discoloration that appeared on the palmrests of their MacBooks,[13] which Apple has acknowledged as a manufacturing problem after a few weeks, offering to replace that part of the casing.[14] [15] Apple has issued a Knowledge Base article regarding this issue [16]. This issue is unique to the white MacBooks.
Another issue found in a few laptops lies in the trackpad button, which some users report to be unresponsive. [17] This error has been attributed (in most cases) to inadvertently having a second finger on the trackpad, which initiates the "scroll" fuction rather than the "pointer" function.
A recent issue affecting the Macbook are 'random shutdowns' that have been occuring, where the machine suddenly shuts down and becomes difficult to turn on again for several minutes.[18] It is unknown how many Macbooks are affected, and the dubbed "RSD's" seem to be unaffected by system temperature. It appears the problem is related to the heatsink expanding and short circuiting a nearby cable. Once these shutdowns begin they may increase in frequency, potentially causing the machine to be unable to turn on. Several hundred users have registered their affected machines on the above website.[19] Apple have now formally recognised this problem on their website and have advised anyone with this problem to contact Applecare.
QUOTE(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Issues)
Issues
Users have reported numerous issues with the MacBook Pro laptops. These include:
* A hissing noise often described as a whine, found to be caused by an idle processor. Software workarounds and the effect of screen position and power source on the issue have been reported.[9][10] As of July 2006, Apple has acknowledged the problem[11], and a replacement mainboard has fixed the "whine" issue for some users.
* A 'mooing' noise, caused by the sound of the cooling fan spinning-up from a stop when the processor would become heated. Potentially fixed by the SMC Firmware update. [12] The firmware update causes the fan to idle at low-speed, rather than stop, and still allows it to accelerate as core temperature increases.
* Excessive heating, apparently caused by the application of excessive quantities of thermal grease on the processor during manufacturing. Apple threatened to sue an internet forum for releasing images of confidential internal publications.[13] Recently, some tests have challenged this explanation of heat issues, showing a minimal (one or two degrees Celsius) drop in temperature when thermal grease was re-applied.[14]
* Early models (serial numbers starting below W8610) had a screen hum emitting from the right side of the machine present when display brightness was set somewhere between maximum and minimum brightness.[9]
* Possibility that the MacBook Pro's GPU has been intentionally underclocked by Apple to reduce reliance on noisy cooling fans. [15]
* In some early models the supplied battery is faulty, and may eventually start swelling while losing capacity. Due to very limited clearance above the battery this can cause permanent damage to the touchpad if left unfixed.[16] Apple eventually addressed the problem and issued a somewhat "silent recall" of the batteries that were used in certain models of the 15" Macbook Pro. The batteries did not pose a safety risk and were recalled due to the failure to meet Apple's "high standards for battery performance." [17]
* Although no official tests have been conducted, many users are reporting that many of these issues were fixed in later models (week 11 and onwards).[18]
zomg!
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