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post Apr 6 2013, 01:49 PM, updated 13y ago

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Ok guys here is my history of having had to deal with eczema on my shoulders,back and thighs. I hope this isn't a too long read, and I hope that I can get some help from knowledgeable people here smile.gif

2011: I think it all started about March of 2011 when my skin started to feel itchy every time after taking a bath.I was using Dettol antibacterial soap to wash my body at that time. And then a few months later, suddenly I notice my skin at my shoulders and back has been getting some red spots. Thinking it was just normal rashes, went to get some Calamine lotion and applied. Found out that it didn't get better, went to see skin doctor(Dr.Ranjit in SS15), and he told me it was eczema. Gave me some creams, and told me to apply every morning and night. The red spots went off like a miracle, but then I stopped putting the cream because I found out through Google that creams for eczama are steroid creams, which is not good. So eventually the eczema all came back.

2012: Didn't do anything about my eczema in this year, other than just using Cetaphil Gentle Cleansing Bar( it's a bar soap) to wash my body. Thinking that it would get better, but it didn't. Every time after bathing, my skin would be dry and it would be damn itchy, wtf some more it's Cetaphil, supposedly good for eczema skin. Bought Cetaphil moisturizer as well, not the kind u see in pharmacies now, but the moisturizer I bought is the one with white tube and pink labels. Maybe it's a discontinued product because I have never seen it in pharmacies already.Applied moisturizer for a month. Moisturizer didn't do sh*t either, so got lazy and stopped using. But continued using the Cetaphil Gentle Cleansing Bar till now smile.gif

2013: Still the same, but these past one week a few pimples with pus has been coming up around my back and shoulders and my eczema looks like it has gotten more red now. My eczema might not be too serious if u were to view my skin I guess, and my lifestyle is not affected such as having to eat this medicine and that medicine or having to avoid water and all that, no I don't have to do all that. But the dryness, itchiness and redness especially after bathing is damn annoying, and if I ever take off my shirt when I'm out in public or at the beach, I guess ppl would be running away from me when they see my shoulders and back having all the spots and redness it looks like as though I got skin disease! sad.gif

So I need some help please? How do we cure eczema? Is there no cure for it?

This post has been edited by bigbangformula: Apr 6 2013, 01:54 PM
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post Apr 7 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(wavezard @ Apr 6 2013, 01:55 PM)
there is no cure for it (still not found)

i also have eczema...but i know 1 doctor that can help you..

DR.DARRAN..he live in rawang......pakar kulit....if u want to go to his clinic..go and queu up at 5 or 6AM...after that took your number...and go to nearby mamak restaurant and jalan2 ...after that go to the clinic....ask the nurse to call you when your turn is nearby
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You are like promoting him..nah I'm looking for other solutions rather than using steroid cream. Would going to private hospital be better? Maybe can get better medicine?

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post Apr 7 2013, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(wavezard @ Apr 7 2013, 05:05 PM)
im not promoting......that is the best doctor for eczema/skin that i have met.....the best is no STEROID CREAM AND CHEAP..many hospital recommended him
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Then what does he give to cure eczema if not steroid cream? hmm.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(femgoo2005 @ Apr 9 2013, 11:02 AM)
A natural way to cure eczema is EPO(Evening Primrose Oil) capsule. Just 2 times each day. You'll see the difference in a month or 2.
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Any side effects for using evening primrose oil?

QUOTE(shin gouki @ Apr 9 2013, 12:29 PM)
i think that is psoriasis. If one person doesn't use steroid then doctor will probably prescribe the protopics which is an immuno suppresson which is no less harmful than steroid IMO.
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Could u elaborate more on protopics? What is this and why would the doctor prescribe that if it's not good? So if we do not want steroid creams, we would get protopics instead?

Out of topic: Sorry but there's just too much BS and advertising in this subforum from a lot of ppl..

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post Apr 11 2013, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Apr 10 2013, 03:11 AM)
Two immunosuppressives on the market now.

Tacrolimus (Protopic)

Pimecrolimus (Elidel)
Doesn't work as well as the steroids. Expensive.

Tacrolimus was originally developed to suppress organ transplant rejection.

Pimecrolimus is probably safer than tacrolimus.
For a start :

Take 6 500 mg evening primrose oil capsules a day. The cheapest is probably
the Naturalle brand by Upha.

Use a good moisturiser cream whenever you can. I use cocoa butter.
Cheapest is Fruit of the Earth.

Colloidal oatmeal bath lotions are supposed to be good, but expensive.
You can buy at pharmacies.

Otherwise, use any good mild soap or bath liquid like Cetaphil. Pine tar also
helps some people.

I use "Taharah" soap, made from mud at hot springs, which you can buy at some
of these Malay stalls in shopping complexes. $ 5 each.

Sometimes I also use "Najwa" black seed soaps, which you can buy at some
department stores.

Doctors usually give Oilatum or Eubos soaps, but expensive.

For eczema on your feet and lower legs, soak in Cosway's Zara sea salts, or any
good Dead Sea salts you can buy. The Himalaya rock salts are also supposed to help.

Lactacyd bath lotions are also alright.

At one time I ordered quite a lot of Emu oils from the States, but haven't in some
time. A bit expensive. Use it as a moisturizer.

For steroid creams, use the following which are safer :

Mometasone (Elomet)
Fluticasone
Clobetasone (Eumovate, U-Closone)

Mometasone is expensive, but some generics around. Use around
your face and groin.

No generics for fluticasone on the market here yet.

Clobetasone is a old steroid, low-medium potency (in between hydrocortisone
and betamethasone valerate), but it has a lower systemic absorption.
Eumovate by Glaxo is expensive, so get U-Closone.

For places around your groin or face, you can also use Efficort (hydrocortisone
aceponate), which is in a colloidal form.
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Are u a doctor? So would evening primrose oil get rid of my eczema?

And let's say I don't see a doctor or eat/use anything extra, just go about my daily life like normal, can my eczema go away one day or would it stay with me for life? yawn.gif

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post Apr 12 2013, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Apr 12 2013, 06:35 AM)
No, I am not a doctor, but another eczema sufferer.

Common sense would tell you that no one can tell if the supplement or treatment
will work for you - only you can find out.

Everyone is an individual, and every eczema sufferer is too. No treatment works
the same for two different eczema people.

If you have not seen a doctor, how do you know it is eczema ?  See one first to
confirm - it may be another skin condtion like psoriasis.

Eczema usually doesn't go away, especially in adults, but typically would be there
with your life. It is a lifelong autoimmune disease, meaning that your immune system
is a bit abnormal and reacts against your skin. It tends to get better or almost disappear
at some parts of your life, only to recur and get worse at other times.

About two out of three children tend to "grow" out of their eczema by their teens,
just like in asthma.

http://www.nationaleczema.org/

http://www.eczema.org.au/info/facts.html

http://www.drhilaryjones.com/your-health/o...-childs-eczema/

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/...90320112110.htm
Fish oil, or cod liver oil, may also help eczema in some cases. Eczema is basically
an inflammatory skin condition, and fish oil has antiinflammatory properties.
This probiotic, Lactobacillus Salivarius LS01, developed in Italy, seems to help too.
Looks very expensive. I don't think you can find it here. Otherwise, taking any
probiotic brand which contains the normal L. salivarius may help.

http://www.pizetapharma.com/en/content/floratopic

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22230409

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22955359
Probiotic therapy as a novel approach for allergic disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3448073/

http://www.frontiersin.org/Respiratory_Pha...2012.00171/full
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Mine is definitely eczema because I have been to a skin doctor once, and he told me it was eczema and gave me steroids. But I stopped using after two weeks because I know steroid can lead to thinning of the skin. So now I'm not putting anything on my skin or eating anything special.

I'm currently just around 20 years old of age, so I wonder if at my age, eczema can still go away one day.


QUOTE(shin gouki @ Apr 12 2013, 01:01 PM)
In my case, I choose not to use steroid anymore and eat healthy diet (now im a vegetarian) and now my eczema is under control and my skin heals slowly. It has been more than one year since I quit steroid.
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Becoming a vegatarian? I don't know if I can because I love to eat chicken, eggs and fish blush.gif
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post Apr 13 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Apr 13 2013, 12:05 AM)
Yes, steroid creams can lead to thinning of the skin, but if you use a milder
form, don't use it too often and only for short periods at at time, it should be alright.

You could try on alternate days, just a thin layer, and for up to two weeks, then
stop for a week, and cycle again.

The milder ones are the low to low-mid potency creams :

Hydrocortisone acetate, the mildest
Hyfrocortisone aceponate (Efficort)
Clobetasone butyrate (Eumovate)
Mometasone (Elomet)
Fluticasone (Cutivate)
A little skin thinning is nothing to be alarmed about really. The main risk is systemic
absorption, when too much of the steroid is absorbed into your blood stream. The
second generation steroids - mometasone and fluticasone, as well as the older one,
clobestasone - minimize this risk.
At one time, I had to have steroid injections - Kenacort (triamcinolone 40 mg/ml)
every few months, given by Dr Ting of Jalan Imbi or my company GP. This is a depot
form injection - meaning the steroid is released slowly over a week, and stays in your
body for up to a month. Many times more powerful than any potent steroid cream.

Too many injections too often, and you will get muscle wasting, osteoporosis, diabetes,
cataracts, glaucoma, high blood pressure, gastric ulcers, liver and kidney problems, etc.
A study to evaluate the efficacy and safety of hydrocortisone aceponate 0.127% lipophilic
cream in steroid responsive dermatoses in Indian patients.

http://www.ijdvl.com/article.asp?issn=0378...st=Mukhopadhyay
Eumovate (clobetasone butyrate 0.05%) cream: a review of clinical efficacy and safety.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12775314
You could try adopting a vegetarian diet like the above poster successfully did.
This is an interesting product. Their creams are made from calendula, gotu kola,
propolis. The kids' cream is colloidal oatmeal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-m4E6GjQnQ&NR
You could try asking the above product owner to send you some samples.

http://www.itchy.net.au/webcontent21.htm
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Looking at the effects of steroid cream, I think it's better to continue having eczema rather than getting all those side-effects u metnioned like diabetes and high blood pressure sweat.gif How serious is ur eczema till u needed to get injections which can lead to those side effects?

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post Apr 14 2013, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Apr 14 2013, 04:05 PM)
I've already explained that steroid creams are quite safe, but you
still can't understand. Don't listen to everyone who tells you that steroids
are going to kill you.

If you feel you can get by without the creams, then good for you.

The creams I told you are nothing - even babies can use mometasone.

Even if you go for Kenacort jabs, say once every half year, it won't really mess
up your system.
It's only when you go for too frequent Kenacort jabs, then the risk of
those systemic diseases start coming in. And that is only if the doctor gives
you 40 mg/ml triamcinolone acetonide. The lower strength vial, 10 mg/ml, is
too weak to do anything for your eczema for a prolonged period.
My eczema at certain periods many years ago was quite bad, with lesions all
over my hand and legs, uncontrolled by the creams.

They included times when I was hospitalized for other reasons, and the eczema
flared up due to the stress, particularly after surgery.
An alternative to the jabs, typically favored by skin specialists such as Dr Chang
in PJ, and also given by GPs, is oral prednisolone, 40 mg daily and tapered off over
a week. He will ask you first if you have gastrititis or gastric ulcer.
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Oh but even if the steroid creams are safe, it can't totally cure eczema can it?
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post May 3 2013, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(jack~daniel @ May 3 2013, 08:37 AM)
eczema cant be cured, because its more into allergic reaction, u have to apply the lotion everyday..the best cream is corticosteroid, very effective, after 2 days your skin will be back to normal...but i dnt know some of a doctor not recommend it to be used...

I also have eczema, due to asthma when i was a kid...sound weird right??..but i was told by 2 specialist doc from diffrent hospital ...i thought it was skin disease initially...

Now im using another cream...i hv to apply it everyday in order to maintain my skin...
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Steroid creams not recommended to be used too much because it can thin the skin.

You get eczema because of asthma? How does that happen? And what cream are u using now?

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post May 3 2013, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(kinskj @ May 3 2013, 03:11 PM)
I never used to have skin problems , it all started with a small watery bubble
Mate, i had eczema for 1 year. It started with a small watery bubble my index finger. I scratched it and played with it, thinking it was nothing. In a period of 3 months it managed to spread to my whole hand inclusive of my palm. 3 months later, it  managed to spread to my legs. Both my feet were filled with eczema, and both of hands. I went to three different skin specialist and all they did was give me bullshit + more steroids. Soon enough, my palm had two different skin tones, the lighter skin tone ( the one the steroids had destroy ) and the normal one. No matter what i did, the eczema came up.

I stopped taking
-Seafood
-Beef
-Eggs

The eczema would go off for few days and come back

Methods i used
- Steroids
- Epson salt
-Potassium Manganate


Non of the above worked for me,
Only one day when i gave up in steroids and epson salt, i honestly thought i would live with eczema forever, i stumbled on a website.
This website was talking about apple cider. Feeling skeptical and not believing at first i didnt try it , but after googling and watching some youtube videos, i realized vinegar apple cider worked wonders for many people.

What cured my eczema?
Apple cider, definitely! I stopped my steroids and epson salt.

I used 3 main things
-Apple Cider
-Corium (Only obtained in the US)
-A good antiseptic powder, (Red colour one, can be bought at caring pharmacy for rm7)
-Dry fit socks from nike ( rm18.90)

Dont worry about the corium, as it is just a aloe vera, that heals the skin, your body can heal the skin itself dont worry.

So if you're going to give apple cider a try,
use it 3times a day.
Morning, afternoon and night
Afternoon is not compulsory
But Morning and night, mandatory.
It smells @ f***, but i guarantee results in 2weeks.
Use a cotton and dilute the apple cider.
Before you leave for work/school, use the power GENEROUSLY, it will prevent your feet from sweating and being itchy, this will help you get through the day.
Also use a drifit socks, ive changed all my socks from normal - dri fit socks to prevent your feet from sweating!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Now my hands are eczema free, i can eat crab, prawns and beef. But if ever the eczema decide to attack again, i know i can rely on my apple cider. I've stopped apple cider now, and just use aloe vera, to repair the skin.  I wish any of you fighting eczema the best, and i know what it feels like to have eczema, me myself have had eczema and i even almost went into depression due to eczema. anything feel free to pm smile.gif
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Sorry to hear that u felt very bad about your eczema. Was it very bad and itchy? It doesn't harm our health, but it is just uncomfortable, I know.

And good to know that ur method is all natural, except for the Corum part, I don't know what is that, Googled it and first thing that came up was something to do with nuclear reactor shocking.gif But can I just use apple cider? I have heard of that, but using Corium which have to buy from US,antiseptic powder, a bit difficult to get those stuff. And how do I apply it? Mine is not like urs on the feet, I don't need the socks, mine's on my shoulders,back, and chest.

 

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