Are u a doctor? So would evening primrose oil get rid of my eczema?

And let's say I don't see a doctor or eat/use anything extra, just go about my daily life like normal, can my eczema go away one day or would it stay with me for life?

This post has been edited by bigbangformula: Apr 11 2013, 09:12 PM

No, I am not a doctor, but another eczema sufferer.

Common sense would tell you that no one can tell if the supplement or treatment
will work for you - only you can find out.

Everyone is an individual, and every eczema sufferer is too. No treatment works
the same for two different eczema people.

If you have not seen a doctor, how do you know it is eczema ? See one first to
confirm - it may be another skin condtion like psoriasis.

Eczema usually doesn't go away, especially in adults, but typically would be there
with your life. It is a lifelong autoimmune disease, meaning that your immune system
is a bit abnormal and reacts against your skin. It tends to get better or almost disappear
at some parts of your life, only to recur and get worse at other times.

About two out of three children tend to "grow" out of their eczema by their teens,
just like in asthma.

http://www.nationaleczema.org/

http://www.eczema.org.au/info/facts.html

http://www.drhilaryjones.com/your-health/o...-childs-eczema/

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/...90320112110.htm




Fish oil, or cod liver oil, may also help eczema in some cases. Eczema is basically
an inflammatory skin condition, and fish oil has antiinflammatory properties.


This probiotic, Lactobacillus Salivarius LS01, developed in Italy, seems to help too.
Looks very expensive. I don't think you can find it here. Otherwise, taking any
probiotic brand which contains the normal L. salivarius may help.

http://www.pizetapharma.com/en/content/floratopic

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22230409

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22955359


Probiotic therapy as a novel approach for allergic disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3448073/

http://www.frontiersin.org/Respiratory_Pha...2012.00171/full




This post has been edited by Tham: Apr 12 2013, 06:37 AM

In my case, I choose not to use steroid anymore and eat healthy diet (now im a vegetarian) and now my eczema is under control and my skin heals slowly. It has been more than one year since I quit steroid.

Mine is definitely eczema because I have been to a skin doctor once, and he told me it was eczema and gave me steroids. But I stopped using after two weeks because I know steroid can lead to thinning of the skin. So now I'm not putting anything on my skin or eating anything special.

I'm currently just around 20 years old of age, so I wonder if at my age, eczema can still go away one day.


Becoming a vegatarian? I don't know if I can because I love to eat chicken, eggs and fish

Yes, steroid creams can lead to thinning of the skin, but if you use a milder
form, don't use it too often and only for short periods at at time, it should be alright.

You could try on alternate days, just a thin layer, and for up to two weeks, then
stop for a week, and cycle again.

The milder ones are the low to low-mid potency creams :

Hydrocortisone acetate, the mildest
Hyfrocortisone aceponate (Efficort)
Clobetasone butyrate (Eumovate)
Mometasone (Elomet)
Fluticasone (Cutivate)


A little skin thinning is nothing to be alarmed about really. The main risk is systemic
absorption, when too much of the steroid is absorbed into your blood stream. The
second generation steroids - mometasone and fluticasone, as well as the older one,
clobestasone - minimize this risk.



At one time, I had to have steroid injections - Kenacort (triamcinolone 40 mg/ml)
every few months, given by Dr Ting of Jalan Imbi or my company GP. This is a depot
form injection - meaning the steroid is released slowly over a week, and stays in your
body for up to a month. Many times more powerful than any potent steroid cream.

Too many injections too often, and you will get muscle wasting, osteoporosis, diabetes,
cataracts, glaucoma, high blood pressure, gastric ulcers, liver and kidney problems, etc.




A study to evaluate the efficacy and safety of hydrocortisone aceponate 0.127% lipophilic
cream in steroid responsive dermatoses in Indian patients.

http://www.ijdvl.com/article.asp?issn=0378...st=Mukhopadhyay


Eumovate (clobetasone butyrate 0.05%) cream: a review of clinical efficacy and safety.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12775314



You could try adopting a vegetarian diet like the above poster successfully did.



This is an interesting product. Their creams are made from calendula, gotu kola,
propolis. The kids' cream is colloidal oatmeal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-m4E6GjQnQ&NR


You could try asking the above product owner to send you some samples.

http://www.itchy.net.au/webcontent21.htm




This post has been edited by Tham: Apr 13 2013, 12:06 AM

Looking at the effects of steroid cream, I think it's better to continue having eczema rather than getting all those side-effects u metnioned like diabetes and high blood pressure How serious is ur eczema till u needed to get injections which can lead to those side effects?

I've already explained that steroid creams are quite safe, but you
still can't understand. Don't listen to everyone who tells you that steroids
are going to kill you.

If you feel you can get by without the creams, then good for you.

The creams I told you are nothing - even babies can use mometasone.

Even if you go for Kenacort jabs, say once every half year, it won't really mess
up your system.


It's only when you go for too frequent Kenacort jabs, then the risk of
those systemic diseases start coming in. And that is only if the doctor gives
you 40 mg/ml triamcinolone acetonide. The lower strength vial, 10 mg/ml, is
too weak to do anything for your eczema for a prolonged period.


My eczema at certain periods many years ago was quite bad, with lesions all
over my hand and legs, uncontrolled by the creams.

They included times when I was hospitalized for other reasons, and the eczema
flared up due to the stress, particularly after surgery.


An alternative to the jabs, typically favored by skin specialists such as Dr Chang
in PJ, and also given by GPs, is oral prednisolone, 40 mg daily and tapered off over
a week. He will ask you first if you have gastrititis or gastric ulcer.






This post has been edited by Tham: Apr 14 2013, 04:14 PM

Oh but even if the steroid creams are safe, it can't totally cure eczema can it?

How much do you expect from conventional allopathic medicine
in the treatment of a complex disease which they don't understand
properly to this day, and of which an immune suppressive drug - steroids -
remain the mainstay of treatment ?

Cure ? Common sense would tell you otherwise.

The word "cure" should not be in the vocabularly of educated individuals
like you and me - it was popularly used only during our primary school days.


Go the the National Library - that is where I taught myself what I know about
drugs and diseases.

Pick up any mainstrem medical textbook. Flip to those pages relating to chronic,
autoimmune, little understood diseases such as multiple sclerosis, systemic lupus
erythematosus, rheumatoid arthritis, as well as the degenerative diseases of aging,
such as heart failure, osteopororis/osteoarthritis and diabetes.

Page after page, disease after disease, they talk about the MANAGEMENT of the
disease. In other words, they are talking only about controlling the SYMPTOMS of
the disease. Apart from that, they have little idea about what else to do.

The only diseases where they can achieve a "cure" are infections, curable by
antibiotics, and physical or pathological conditions correctable by surgery.

That is the limitation of mainstream medicine.

In eczema, which is thought to be the cellular immune system gone haywire
(T-cell migration to the epidermis secreting chemicals causing inflammation),
and using steroids to suppress these cells' overreaction - what do you
really expect ? A "cure" ?

Common sense would tell you that once the steroids are withdrawn, the
T-cells would start causing trouble again.

A cure would lie in an alternative medicine system - homeopathy, naturopathy
or holistic medicine, TCM, Ayurvedic medicine. Not mainstream medicine.

If you wish to try homeopathy, there are at least a couple of good homeopathic
doctors I could point you to.











This post has been edited by Tham: Apr 15 2013, 01:01 AM

This is why I recommended clobetasone. It was ahead of its time
when first introduced by Glaxo in the mid-70s.


The effect of clobetasone butyrate and other topical steroids
on skin thickness of the domestic pig.

" ..... good topical anti-inflammatory activity and a minimal effect on
hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal function. Among a group of topically
active corticosteroids, compared in a controlled study in the domestic
pig, clobetasone butyrate is shown to cause less epidermal thinning
than any of the others except only 1% hydrocortisone. "

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1268065



A separation of clinical from epidermal thinning effect in the
topical glucocorticoid clobetasone butyrate.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/320995



Clobetasone butyrate, a new topical corticosteroid: clinical activity and
effects on pituitary-adrenal axis function and model of epidermal atrophy.

" Clobetasone butyrate 0.05% ointment and cream gave every indication of offering
clinically effective topical anti-inflammatory activity with a wide margin of safety. "

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1164639




Clinical evaluation of clobetasone butyrate in the treatment of children
with atopic eczema, and its effect on plasma corticosteroid levels.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/949903



Adrenocortical function during prolonged treatment with clobetasone butyrate
in children with chronic atopic dermatitis and elevated IgE levels.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4018942



Hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal function in children with atopic dermatitis
treated with clobetasone butyrate and its clinical evaluation.

" This steroid offers clinically effective topical antiinflammatory activity
with a wide margin of safety. "

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2985514



Halogenation and topical corticosteroids: a comparison between the
17-butyrate esters of hydrocortisone and clobetasone in ointment bases.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7011356



Alclometasone dipropionate cream 0.05% versus clobetasone butyrate cream 0.05%.
A controlled clinical comparison in the treatment of atopic dermatitis in children.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6389385

Try the Sabah Snake Grass tea or if you have the plant at your backyard, so much better. No harm trying and like Tham said, it might work for some but not everyone but you just have to take the first step. Check out the write up on the plant at Roundtable Discussions > Health & Fitness. Hope this helps, Cheers.

cost mahal tak?

cheapest

how much? apa ubat die bg?

ubat telan and krim...

eczema cant be cured, because its more into allergic reaction, u have to apply the lotion everyday..the best cream is corticosteroid, very effective, after 2 days your skin will be back to normal...but i dnt know some of a doctor not recommend it to be used...

I also have eczema, due to asthma when i was a kid...sound weird right??..but i was told by 2 specialist doc from diffrent hospital ...i thought it was skin disease initially...

Now im using another cream...i hv to apply it everyday in order to maintain my skin...

Steroid creams not recommended to be used too much because it can thin the skin.

You get eczema because of asthma? How does that happen? And what cream are u using now?

yes..that what i was told by 2 specialist doc from 2 different hospital, PPUM and Pantai, asthma patient usually will have many allergic skin including eczema...

now im using Aqueous Cream, u can get it from PPUKM...the cost just RM0.30 for big bottle....

I never used to have skin problems , it all started with a small watery bubble


Mate, i had eczema for 1 year. It started with a small watery bubble my index finger. I scratched it and played with it, thinking it was nothing. In a period of 3 months it managed to spread to my whole hand inclusive of my palm. 3 months later, it managed to spread to my legs. Both my feet were filled with eczema, and both of hands. I went to three different skin specialist and all they did was give me bullshit + more steroids. Soon enough, my palm had two different skin tones, the lighter skin tone ( the one the steroids had destroy ) and the normal one. No matter what i did, the eczema came up.

I stopped taking
-Seafood
-Beef
-Eggs

The eczema would go off for few days and come back

Methods i used
- Steroids
- Epson salt
-Potassium Manganate


Non of the above worked for me,
Only one day when i gave up in steroids and epson salt, i honestly thought i would live with eczema forever, i stumbled on a website.
This website was talking about apple cider. Feeling skeptical and not believing at first i didnt try it , but after googling and watching some youtube videos, i realized vinegar apple cider worked wonders for many people.

What cured my eczema?
Apple cider, definitely! I stopped my steroids and epson salt.

I used 3 main things
-Apple Cider
-Corium (Only obtained in the US)
-A good antiseptic powder, (Red colour one, can be bought at caring pharmacy for rm7)
-Dry fit socks from nike ( rm18.90)

Dont worry about the corium, as it is just a aloe vera, that heals the skin, your body can heal the skin itself dont worry.

So if you're going to give apple cider a try,
use it 3times a day.
Morning, afternoon and night
Afternoon is not compulsory
But Morning and night, mandatory.
It smells @ f***, but i guarantee results in 2weeks.
Use a cotton and dilute the apple cider.
Before you leave for work/school, use the power GENEROUSLY, it will prevent your feet from sweating and being itchy, this will help you get through the day.
Also use a drifit socks, ive changed all my socks from normal - dri fit socks to prevent your feet from sweating!

Now my hands are eczema free, i can eat crab, prawns and beef. But if ever the eczema decide to attack again, i know i can rely on my apple cider. I've stopped apple cider now, and just use aloe vera, to repair the skin. I wish any of you fighting eczema the best, and i know what it feels like to have eczema, me myself have had eczema and i even almost went into depression due to eczema. anything feel free to pm

This post has been edited by kinskj: May 3 2013, 03:14 PM

Sorry to hear that u felt very bad about your eczema. Was it very bad and itchy? It doesn't harm our health, but it is just uncomfortable, I know.

And good to know that ur method is all natural, except for the Corum part, I don't know what is that, Googled it and first thing that came up was something to do with nuclear reactor But can I just use apple cider? I have heard of that, but using Corium which have to buy from US,antiseptic powder, a bit difficult to get those stuff. And how do I apply it? Mine is not like urs on the feet, I don't need the socks, mine's on my shoulders,back, and chest.