done my deck exactly like this lolz

ok
i done with this deck
wanna try out?

How come so hard? What you're offering for one?

So how is it? will it excel in this coli round?

brave pandora 60 and brave S.banshe 20
dunno..kinda ntg else to go .. or my deck will be gone ><

just testing
not sure of the results yet
awaitin last wolf to giv a detailed report
but i got itch to replace siren with se
bt still need the detailed report from our battle boss

Hello guise,

Anyone got water+4?

I got earth + 4...any1 wanna swap?

me 2, thor/SE/ Alm Jugg/ Alm Golbez/ Alm Xmas sitting on the bench waiting... maybe bring em in if this doesnt work.
Only can test it out when reach rank A above..

Well, that seems a bit okay for a bad Siren. I got a Cool Siren but I'm trying to trade up for Marchosias or Morrighan. I'll trade with you if I still have it by the end of the week.

I need some of you people's opinion here. I got a bit outdated with GC & currently my mindset is still LS + QS is the way to go. But recently I noticed this isn't the style anymore. It's more on SD & Death now, the 2 skills that I hate the most because not only I don't have hunting luck, I apa luck pun TARAK.

So before I throw half of my deck away for Last Standers & Quick Strikers like Thor, Marchosias, Shinryu, Reborn Chariot, New Gilgamesh etc. I wanna know if it's the right thing to do now.

Last Stand seems to be still relevant, so what I really want to know now is Quick Strike. It is still relevant these days because even my Fast SE (fsemp) QS can hardly do even 10% damage on most reborn guardians in A+ now. So should I even bother looking for Quick Strikers or just go back to the old Glass Canon strategy?

This post has been edited by NightHeart: Apr 9 2013, 01:07 PM

LS success rate is lower than b4 after SE updated...
Now most important trend:

1. Speed speed speed ...more speed, best is speedy gonzales
2. Death spell...all the way...uses MP so damn little so having fast agi u can cast many times, so having better success rate, so best card of course is Specter, then Siren, Pandora & SB forget the rest...
3. Only now LS cards still good in Elite is FF5 Gilga (many ppl complain bout his LS, but mine is ok), Nuada (my fave) & Thor
4. QSers...still good is barbie, SE, morrig, marcho (best QS card IMO), Alm Lamia, Jugg (i still like this card). BTW Shinryu is bad...
5. Another card is not bad IMO, high WIS (can tank) & SD ...OMEGA..
6. Another to speedster/tanker need to look out are Odin (really can tank) & Anubis (really can tank too).

At my level (no where near A+) i think LS+QS still works. But ultimately, i believe that speed (Agi) is still the key. But most of the sifus here are adding SD+Death into their speedy deck which will add value to break opponent deck flow.

Hehe, let the sifus speak for it.

Just master Coli work now. Not in Elite.
Elite most u can have are 2 pair QS+LS combo...the rest ....speedy death caster...& solid tanker..

Non RB against RB will be a great disadvantage. Wait till you QS an Alm Bold/Stalwart Behe. Most of the QS-er will do 1 damage QS + LS tactic is still favorable but it's much better if some luck required guardians could be slotted in (yes,luck is not your cup of tea I know ). It could be Death and/or SD. Heck,even revive could disrupt a good flow deck. Nowadays your deck requirements need to be very good (at least half or more aces) to survive even in master coli (I'm too itchy last week to bump into master). Lost about 3-5 matches overall once I'm among the S rank. I still remember I lost to a deck which was only about <3000 average attack deck. It's full of SD inside! (Mine was 4000) every explosion works for that guy lol! There's even that new 3* lady from new desert in it! . So,yeah there's a lot of nice stuff to play around

The problem now is my SE's QS is like mosquito's bite de. Enemy guardian feel itchy only, not even painful like before even though they're not the tanker type. For tankers wahlao....my QS totally no feeling for them man.

Soon my Shinryu & Stymp Bird QS will be out....I think they'll be like mosquitos in my deck too.

I'm always a speedy believer. As long as this game is still all about 1 Hit KO, speed will be the most important stat.

Quick check, anyone has any bad type of vampire matron? my friend is looking for one for rebirth purposes . Hope to get good offer from you guys la.

ermmm as for death , my stupid observation here , death4 is way more than 50% ..

hence alot elite player here must have a spector in their deck .. if it's just 50% for death4 , i think no ppl will use it ..

but SD is 50% this i'm quite sure .. only maniacal last card SD rate is quite good

LOL !!!! i'm using the same deck too cox looking for a domi then planning to replace siren with SE ....

your tactic won me alm .. no questioned about it

LOL ~ battle boss not me !! i'm KB (kacau boss) ..

btw i really do think the 1st 5 guardian battle is really critical ..

when u winning at 1st 5 position , meaning your are on 5th card opponent at 6th-7th .. u will usually win ..

it's hard to do chase back in this game , not impossible , but quite hard ..

negisf find it the same too ..

boss ~ just some of my humble opinion , i've tried a full QS LS deck before .. thinking it will definitely kacau opponent deck flow with all the combo but i'm dead wrong ..

i lose like mad to those SDer DEATHer ...

i once make :

morri starter
atlas + chariot
nuada + sphinx
thor + barb
Golbez + H nix
maniacal ending ..

damn .. not good ..

now to win good , u must have spector .. this is a card i can see 90% of the elite player must have and using ..

cox the death rate is really good , good speed too .. when SD .. bonus kill ~

domi is the new starter love cox highest Agi card in the game ~

so for QS + LS .. 2 pair is enough ~

gilga boss + marcho

nuada / thor + morri + barb/sphinx ( morri can chain a LS QS LS combo )

the rest have to use speedy gonzalez like odin , revive DEATHer siren as filler ~

Okay la, at least we can see SE doing a good job is creating many different game play styles.

The most frustrating part now is my deck is getting wiped out by reborn Valk, Phoenix, VM, Frank, IM etc!! Those "old" guardians are mopping the floor with my Morrighan, SE, Nuada, Thor etc. Can't imagine the gap between reborn & non-reborn is HUGE. But sadly my reborn Fujin & Raiji bros isn't that fantastic =\

I got a chao vm fresh. Not using it. Juz let me know wats the offer ya

Wah I was working very hard to get a SE or robo mosquitor. But their price is like sky high which i cannot affort.

About the speed, there is where the gambling/luck element comes in. If your guardian are speedy, but once SD kicks in... kaboom that it. That will make your deck equal to opponent's deck again (9 vs 9).

yea ~ !! last round elite i lost streak for a fella avg atk 3300 , i forget his nick .. usually i will avoid 3700 - 4000 deck .. i rather battle 4300 deck cox i know it's a maniacal .. those 3700 - 4000 deck have lot's of gambel card , when their luck is on and our luck is out .. it will be a bad lost ..

back to story , the 3300 fella have damn 3 spector , great mighty and almighty .. all their death work , and 2 SD work .. my tanker la QSer la whatever .. all kena OHKO ..

the whole flow went bad and my spector death fail on his spector .. end up losing 2 cards to a 3300 deck .. !@$#@#$%@#$^@#$%%

shinryu is still new .. maybe can trade for something nice boss ~

try trade for morri , marcho , gilga boss ..

morri is really the best card in the game atm

Well your opinion is the same as others too. Yes I'm building a LS + QS deck now. I guess I'll take your advice & change my direction now before I repeat your mistake.

I guess LS + QS was popular until people start using SD to spoil that combo since SD can bypass LS.