hi gogo2

let me ask you

for my case .

I paid them and  Optimax klang  have done a comprehensive eye test on my eyes and do the calculation to check whether I am a suitable candidate for refractive surgery or not ?

After completed the eye test  Dr.yen siew siang  told me that i have enough cornea tissue to proceed with this type of refractive surgery and enough tissue for enhancement later. She don't even bother to explain the risk at  all and the side effect.

After the surgery , my cornea tissue-stromal bed  hit below recommended level and they unable to answer. Ectasia happen due to thin corneal tissue .
they said O ya pre op corneal tissue calculation is just a estimation ? does this mean they didn't really makesure whether you have enough corneal tissue to proceed with this surgery ???????? how many of op patient really know their status ?

so you tell me now , if ectasia happen to me ? should dr.yen responsible ? does she expose me to ectasia risk and does she caused this to happen ?
miyoko28 is the 1st patient and I am the 2nd patient. our surgeon is dr.yen

I think u are rite.

Dr.yen is the surgeon she has to responsible n she work for optimax.

She never do her job she never make sure my eyes are suitable n worth to proceed w this refractive surgery before perform the surgery.

Never care about patients eyes.
CHOOSE YOUR  SURGEON  WISELY

is this normal?

After reading a few pages back, I don't know how to feel. To be grateful or stupid. My decision to do LASIK was due to the urge to dump glasses. I wanted to do it years ago but pushed back because of money. I did not do much research or homework prior to walking into Optimax. I just went, no thoughts nor worries, because I was free and happen to pass by the place. I choose Optimax because it is more convenient being near to where I stay and because it is more well known that Vista. If I were to come across this thread (have not been active in this forum for quite some time), I would probably just stick to glasses, I'm the type to freak out easy.

Initially I wanted to go for Relex-smile due to dry eye, but was not able to fork out 13K since I am out of job and have no credit card. So I switched to Femto-lasik considering their advice that I can do both. I have no comment for post op, 100% successful or not, cos its still on recovery stage, entering 4th week. But I remember after the surgery, my left was so strain and the pain was running back and forth from the eyes and back of my head. I have trouble to even fall asleep. Ophthalmologist did inform about my left eye being drier.

As above comment, 3rd week in, my only discomfort is that night seems darker and day seems brighter. Night vision there is still glare and halos, but not as bad as a few days after surgery, will see how as time goes by. Up til today, I still wash my face gently avoiding the eyes, do not rub, do not squint, do not stare at phone/laptop for a long time (even purchase an anti blue light glasses) and eye drops is each time I feel strain I put it irregardless of 2 hours or 30 minutes. I think I have adapt to my dry eyes for a long time that I don't feel like my eyes is going to pop out or anything. Just at time, the sting is really there especially when looking at phone in the dark.

I have no regret going to Optimax (Klang branch). But referring to post from other patients, if you're not confident and very doubtful, wise to get a few more opinion before proceeding. Its either you spend some time and few hundreds or risk your eyes. Its your eyes, an organ that you can't just YOLO.

By the way...I want to ask, can I simply change eye drop? I thought of switching to Eyemo which is cheaper. Any advice? Currently using Refresh Plus which cost RM30 for 2 weeks usage. 

Thank you.

they do free screening during roadshow but they still ask u to do full examination and pay.
10k
u can pm me your full name, email, birth date, hp

i arrange discount letter for u, rm1k each eye. eye exam rm 20 cheaper than their in house promo

they do free screening during roadshow but they still ask u to do full examination and pay.
10k
u can pm me your full name, email, birth date, hp

i arrange discount letter for u, rm1k each eye. eye exam rm 20 cheaper than their in house promo

how u get the rm 700 discount?

lasek is older technology, use blade.

femto lasik is bladeless, more even cut allowed.

hi

YES. request the doctor to show you n explain then ask for a copy.

As a patient , definitely we have right to know truth condition of our eye after the surgery and doctor has responsibility to show to patient with proof.

it is not wrong to tell the truth from experience.

u have choice not to read it.

when a person want to make money by introducing more ppl to lasik surgery which they are not a qualified person/professional to explain the process of this type of surgery. that is wrong.

Hi, I've been researching and reading the forum for quite some time..
I am planning to do lasik but not sure which to opt for.. have not go through any test yet.. in the midst of saving money and researching.

My power : -5.5, -5.75

I am having dry eyes issue and wearing daily lens every weekday for work but my eye feels very dry and wish not to wear any lens.

Any advice and suggestion for me?

Sup all, will also like to share my experience to help others make a more informed decision (just as I was reading this thread before my procedure). I will be sharing my thought process/opinions on some of the "things" people are afraid of because I share the same thought process (obviously vision is IMO the most important sense so will you risk it)

Procedure : Customised Femto Lasik
Doctor : Dr Stephen Chung , Optimax TTDI
Price : RM 8,576 both eyes
Power : Left 275, Right 350
When : Two days back, on a Saturday, 6pm

Why I chose Femto vs Smile?

I initially thought of doing Smile after going for my initial checkup and briefed on the small incision on the eye. Also I also thought, since the process is more expensive, it should be more reliable right? (I can afford SMILE is about 12k both eye so pricing isnt a big factor as I am willing to pay more for better results). However after reading the possible complications and complaints on this forum - plus this is something i recommend to everyone (go watch a LIVE LASIK VIDEO of both SMILE and FEMTO first to see how the doctors actually do the procedure). After watching it, SMILE isn't just making a small incision and "seamlessly" pulling out the corneal tissue. The doctor actually has to "scrap" the tissue loose through the small incision and THEN proceed to pull it out. My thought was that this was pretty scary (and in the hands of wrong doctor, cud turn out bad as experienced by some forum users here).  definitely go watch it first

The FEMTO was less scary, though there was a flap (plus I had two friends who did FEMTO at Optimax, no probs + FEMTO cheaper + FEMTO has a longer history over 20 years) so I chose FEMTO. HOWEVER this is PURELY my opinion, I'm not saying FEMTO is better, I just chose FEMTO - plus on that day when i did my surgery I did ask what procedure was done more on the day (apparently there were prob like 10 SMILE vs 3 FEMTO?) 

What was the procedure like? What's the result?

Don't worry, it's pretty much painless (as everyone said). Nervous, definitely but 5 minutes in you will be so focused to not SCREW (your fault if you move your eyes) that you prob wont be that nervous. Dr Stephen did a great job on my procedure, quick - steady - professional.

When I came out, vision was not really clear but its abit foggy "like when got haze like that"  , power was pretty much as if I did not wear my glasses (maybe slightly better). Immediately after you come out, not much feeling (tbh i felt I cud drive myself back home - but no, dont do it). Bcuz 15 min numbing meds wore off, and you will feel some discomfort (people who wore contacts for whole day will know) and you will want to close your eyes. Went home, tried to sleep but unsuccessful, ate pizza for dinner, then decided to really sleep at 10pm - was still feeling the discomfort. Woke up at 3am, wasn't sure why couldn't sleep, but OhMyGawd my vision was clear (corrected, like wearing glasses/contacts) - I even watched movie on my computer for a few hours.  Eyes were just a little discomfort but all in all pretty good, considering its less than 12 hours.
Disclaimer : Not everyone will be like me, I personally feel my vision was clear too fast - which is amazing but each person is different. I'm just explaining what I experienced, if you don't have the same result, don't complain. If your eyes are pain, that's also up to each person

Few hours later, went to check up. My vision was so good, I drove - even though I had a backup driver. Doctor even said he was pleasantly surprised my vision was near perfect. At time of writing I went to work back on Monday, full day not bad - staring at computer whole day - rest when your eyes feel tired, if dry just spam eyedrops. I didnt really feel too dry but eyes are prob still recovering.

Truthfully I did feel, having an experienced Dr Stephen to do the procedure helped in producing this kind of results. All in all , (personally) I felt I got the best results anyone can dream, perfect vision in 2 days, minor discomfort - BUT again I reiterate that this is not CONFIRMED for every person

Other things I feel like mentioning

Firstly expectations. If you have not worn contacts before, and were directly doing Lasik from glasses, I feel these people may complain more - because they haven't experienced having discomfort in their eyes. Again, personal opinion, so you have to see what's your own level of pain/discomfort threshold.

Second, my eyes. I believe my power is pretty low, my cornea is thick (above the required), mild astig, not much problems with the other tests they did. So this ALSO contribute to the results that I'm getting. If you have super high power, or your eyes are more complicated - this could cause complications in your results. Check with doctor.

Third, although there are alot of scary cases (as written here) do know that on that day itself there are probably 15 ppl who did LASIK (even more). I expect this number every single weekend, so prob even 100 over ppl a month. The number of SUCCESSFUL vs UNSUCCESSFUL is too low (sorry for those that develop serious problem) but also note that we as humans, only read about and fear about those that was UNSUCCESSFUL. There are higher percentage of SUCCESSFULS (prob like 98%?) and those SUCCESSFULS (besides me) don't come to here to share their view, because they have better things to do.
All in all, you make your own decisions. I only try to help those here by providing you information for you to make informed decisions.

Good day. Will update my status down the road. Do note its only Day 2.

Not really informed about LASEK, can share for others on adv vs disadv.

Zero-flap doesnt necessary always produce the best result, there is a reason why LASIK is still the more popular method.

*Sharing my experience with both Optimax and Dr Ainur Rahman ar ADMC*

This will be lengthy but please take time to read. I could have kept this private but decided to share this out as I feel I am one of the lucky ones and hope my sharing can bring more awareness to others before making uninformed decision with one of our most sensitive and important organ.

As a disclaimer, the purpose of my post is not to defame any eye specialist centre but to promote awareness so that others can make informed decision and to not rush.Certainly everyone will be presented a different case and your case may not be the same as mine.

I got my eye checked in Optimax Klang in January 2019 to see if I am fit for LASIK. I was pretty much settled with Optimax since number of my friends did with them many years ago with successful result even to date.

After the check, I was told that I can do either type of LASIK as my cornea is at a good level of thickness. On the same day, I was asked if I want to secure a spot with the promotional price, but would need to go through another round of eye test which will be scheduled only one hour before the surgery. I however did not go on as I felt that the optician who did my report reading was somewhat new, the explanation did not suffice me, to me they were pretty much too surface level.

That insecurity brought me to do more research online, leading to this very helpful forum and very thankful for all active advice from @jialat and brave input from respective cases especially the not so successful ones ! I then went to Dr. Ainur Rahman as recommended by @jialat, and did my eye scans all over again in ADMC on 09 Mar 2019.

Eye scans were done by an optician and as advised I made sure belin test was done. Unlike Optimax, report reading was done by Dr. Ainur himself. He was very patient throughout the session, explaining things making sure that I fully understand my eye condition and the purpose of LASIK (which we all here want to achieve - to have close to perfect eyesight without relying on glasses).

From having a greenlight to go on with LASIK (with Optimax) to hearing a "I will not perform LASIK on you" from Dr Ainur, was shocking.

He showed me a yellow spot on both of my eyes together with a graphical reading on both of my eyes, which he worry that could be a symptom of ectasia formation. This means I could be one of them with unsuccessful LASIK case as my eye sight may not get corrected or worsen. Hence he strongly encouraged me to not go through LASIK and took effort to emphasize that I should not go ahead even if I were to be given greenlight by other doctors.

He, like many have mentioned, is a very ethical doctor and I highly recommend to those who has the intention to do LASIK to go to him. If not him, make sure your report is read by the surgeon him/herself and clear all doubts and do not hesitate to seek second opinion else where if needed until you are know you are making an informed decision.

As for my condition, it is still not 100% confirmed for ectasia formation for now, since I do also have dry eyes and allergen on my eyeflaps which could also contribute to the indication of yellow spot. I will be firstly treated with my dry eyes and subsequently monitored for ectasia for at least 2 years with eye scans every 6 months before we can conclude anything.

Had I not gone to Dr. Ainur for second opinion, I would most likely have fallen to be one of the unfortunate ones (or not).

Great thanks to @jialat and all the contributors of this forum ! Cheers !

is this thread still alive? anyone else who hass done lasik and is still active here on this forum?

Hi, for those with high eye power and thin cornea, now can do ICL with very good discount in ara damansara medical centre under corneal specialist dr Ainur, definitely cheaper than optimax and vista. Can private message me to arrange the discount for surgery and consultation fee.

Which clinic and doctor would you recommend? I am considering Vista but not sure which doctor there is good.

Ya man.. it's quite obvious. Very one sided info. haha!