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post Jul 21 2017, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(adif1281 @ Jul 21 2017, 08:03 AM)
the latest method i.e ReLex smile method should be the least risky but the most expensive though....
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Already have 3 post op relex smile patients which suffering poor vision and lasik centre not able to help or rectify.
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post Jul 21 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(miyoko28 @ Jul 21 2017, 08:30 AM)
Easy for you to say because you don't encounter complications post lasik like me
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miyoko28

Just ignore those.

they will never understand how much we are suffering , our misery ,our frustration and how does this poor vision affected our life.

they are seeing well now , that is y they are happy. they will face their problems in future.

this statement was make by a doctor "Seeing well doesn't mean their eyes are healthy ".

some post op lasik patient claimed that it is heaven for them , but in actual fact they don't even know real condition of their eyes.


for my case :-

beside my eye cant see clearly , there are debris "LEFT" inside my eyes (surgery area) and caused inflamation. the surgeon just ignore it and do nothing.



Ignore those.

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post Jul 24 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(jhkhaw @ Jul 24 2017, 09:41 AM)
hi jhkhaw

I saw you posted this link for 2nd .


Are you a post op patient ?
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post Jul 24 2017, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(miyoko28 @ Jul 24 2017, 08:25 AM)
Pre Relex Smile Op, with glasses I had 6/6 perfect vision.

After first op, 1 eye was good, the other had double vision, dry eyes and vision blurry even after glasses. Why? I had irregular cornea due to de-centered treatment. (3 doctors concluded this but not the original surgeon)

Then had an enhancement recommended by the same centre.
Beside losing more cornea tissues and risking my eyes to flap complication (a flap is created for the enhancement). NO IMPROVEMENT!! I can't read with my bad eye.

Now? They don't know what to do with me now. Clueless.

Please be careful when lasik centre offers "life-time warranty".
It does not mean they will do everything to help you regain your vision back. They just offer you more "free" surgeries. Your eyes can only take that much of invasive operations.

I still had to pay for my damn medications and eye drops.

I know there are many success stories. I did not choose to hit this "jackpot". Before surgery, I had a pair of perfectly healthy eyes. Met all of "their" requirements.
I wish I kept my glasses.

Well, this is my part of the "unsuccessful" story..
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hi miyoko28

1 patient maybe is surgery complication but 2 patient and operated by same surgeon Yen SS. both also suffered from same negative effects. it is not as simple as complication. it is decentred ablation !!!!!

If you guys read thru the medical articles , you will know this is surgeon's mistake.

I know nowadays youngsters prefer lasik than glasses despite knowing or know part of the risk of lasik. But the world should know this "very good ethical" ophthalmologist.

Created 2 patients who suffering post op negative effects due to decentred ablation and the lasik centre unable to rectify .

CHOOSE YOUR SURGEON WISELY.

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post Jul 29 2017, 11:03 AM

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post Sep 8 2017, 10:06 PM

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[quote=raist86,Sep 7 2017, 10:55 PM]
What are the complications that can occur because of high refractive amount? almost all the literature that i've read are pushing for relex to be the next gen procedure with the least side effect. I do know that in the event that if the power is not corrected properly, there's no chance to do a 2nd LASIK surgery and have to resort to other methods right? Is it a high chance that the visual may not be corrected properly for relex?
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quote=miyoko28,Jul 24 2017, 08:25 AM]
Pre Relex Smile Op, with glasses I had 6/6 perfect vision.

After first op, 1 eye was good, the other had double vision, dry eyes and vision blurry even after glasses. Why? I had irregular cornea due to de-centered treatment. (3 doctors concluded this but not the original surgeon)

Then had an enhancement recommended by the same centre.
Beside losing more cornea tissues and risking my eyes to flap complication (a flap is created for the enhancement). NO IMPROVEMENT!! I can't read with my bad eye.

Now? They don't know what to do with me now. Clueless.

Please be careful when lasik centre offers "life-time warranty".
It does not mean they will do everything to help you regain your vision back. They just offer you more "free" surgeries.
Your eyes can only take that much of invasive operations.

I still had to pay for my damn medications and eye drops.

I know there are many success stories. I did not choose to hit this "jackpot". Before surgery, I had a pair of perfectly healthy eyes. Met all of "their" requirements.
I wish I kept my glasses.

Well, this is my part of the "unsuccessful" story..
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hi raist86

Jialat is right . miyoko28 and i underwent relex smile , surgeon yen siew siang .Above is the story of miyoko28.

After relex smile surgery , we lost vision clarity , eye pain ,seeing ghosting image , too sensitive to light , cornea scars. headache ,dry eye,quality of vision is gone ,expose to ectasia disease etc

Putting on glasses n normal contact lense does not help or improve our vision.

We meet pioneer and experience ophthalmologistsssss from same lasik centre when dr.yen failed to tell us why we lost our vision quality.

If thier doctorsss are capable enough /willing to help us to re-gain our vision they should have done it. .both of us will not have to suffer until now. Reported to thier management but yet no solution for us.
what is the use of lifetime warranty ????
We have paid so much $$$$$$ , in return "this impaired vision "????

Now we have to live with this impaired vision.Our life is totally affected.


think wisely.

CHOOSE YOUR SURGEON WISELY

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post Sep 8 2017, 10:11 PM

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post Oct 19 2017, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(leanman @ Oct 17 2017, 04:41 PM)
I know a friend who did his LASIK there about 10 years ago and so far so good, as he just went back for his annual check up last month. Surprisingly, their price is only RM2888 for both eyes, compared with Optimax, Vista etc of RM 4k per eye. Am i lost somewhere on this?
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hi leanman

I am one of optimax post op patient.

Based on my unpleasant experience and my condition now. Paid for 6k+ for relex smile end up with all the post op issue and lasik centre unable to rectify , I will say that surgeon is important not the money we pay or lasik centre.

Pre op consultation , optometrist and surgeon claimed that my eyes are suitable for lasik surgery. After surgery , I lost my vision clarity , eye pain, vision acuity 6/15 etc ,

After struggle for months , finally this is the only answer from "an ophthalmologist from same centre "

****1. corneal has scars/haze after lasik surgery is common occurrence"
2. double/ghosting vision after surgery is common
3. dry eyes is common (1 yrs+ still common?

What do you think ??? Is this your purpose going for lasik surgery ?

Why the surgeon Dr.Yen SS "NEVER" inform me at all during pre op consultation ?

Now what ???

They cant solve my problem ???? No proper and official answer to the queries about my eyes status??



I am working on something , will share complete story of my lasik surgery when time allow.

CHOOSE YOUR SURGEON WISELY.

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post Oct 23 2017, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(leanman @ Oct 23 2017, 10:53 AM)
Sorry to hear your situation.
My question was why the price is so much different? I think is because PRK vs. LASIK. Of course choosing the right Surgeon is utmost important.
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hi leanman

Well. I am not only who hit the jackpot. another member here miyoko28 having same unresolved issue and operated by same surgeon.

if I am not mistaken , new version for PRK is ASA. Optimax charged same price for ASA and Lasik. except for relex >Rm6k. So price diff not due to PRK vs Lasik.

Your question why the price is so much diff???? Maybe someone here mind to answer?


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post Oct 26 2017, 03:36 PM

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It is very sad.

Many cases , the lasik centre never explain properly to post op lasik patient about their eyes condition after surgery.

I haven't receive my official pre-op and post op data yet




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post Nov 2 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(zaFrOoNaLdO @ Nov 1 2017, 01:31 PM)
hi sorry to hear about your complications.. can you remind us again which surgeon did you eyes?
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Her NSR no.126414. excellent doctor perform lasik surgery without checking thru patient's eyes during PAID per op consultation.



Now been informed by lasik centre management , some of the data (post op eyes check) is no longer in patient's file record. super good service provider centre thumbsup.gif



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post Nov 2 2017, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(miyoko28 @ Nov 2 2017, 02:04 PM)
Hi 86 Aries,

I'm not an expert in this field. Only a trained ophthalmologist (from a reputable center) to provide a better explanation.
But I can give my 2c opinion. I agree with leanman. You could be over corrected by 25.
The K reading is your cornea curvature. K1 could be horizontal. K2 could be vertical.
The "@", seriously I'm just guessing here... could be the axis power?
Probably someone more expert like jialat can explain better...

Are there any issues or symptoms you are having? Dry eyes? Halos?
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Hi miyoko28

How are you? hope you can manage better now.


Just to check with you. You sure about this K reading ? I mean k1 n k2. I remember the qualified optometrist from same centre told me it is reading 1 and reading 2. meaning she take 2 times of k reading . it is not mean for horizontal n vertical.

" K1 could be horizontal. K2 could be vertical."
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post Nov 8 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(jialat @ Nov 3 2017, 08:20 PM)
K1 K2 are the meridians of the corneal cylinder = astigmatism direction

thats why the 2 readings are 90 degree apart, can be vertical, horizontal or oblique.
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hi Jialat


Not sure . the doctor never explain . he only mentioned about "flatten of the corneal " caused lost of vision quality.


anyway thanks

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post Nov 8 2017, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(miyoko28 @ Nov 5 2017, 03:08 PM)
Hi Really Confuse,

I'm emotionally and psychologically better now. But vision still the same.
Hope you are well too..

I think so. I did my research on google. Some links says its the horizontal and vertical. Some papers says its the flattest and steepest.
Then again, I'm not the expert here.

https://www.aao.org/focalpointssnippetdetai...03-f8c30d1ef2f4
"IOL power formulas rarely use the horizontal (K1) and the vertical (K2) readings"

http://www.gjms.com.pk/files/GJMS%20Vol-7-1%20(5).pdf
"Corneal dioptric power is calculated in diopters in vertical meridian (K1) and horizontal meridian (K2) by keratometer"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25495530
"The Pentacam measured significantly greater keratometry readings in the flattest (K1) and steepest meridians (K2) in normal and keratoconic eyes."

https://bmcophthalmol.biomedcentral.com/art...2886-017-0450-2
"Keratometry was measured in 2 meridians: that is, flat keratometry (K1) and steep keratometry (K2)."
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Hi miyoko28

Good to hear that from you.

Please update us once you have fix the sclera lens. One of contact who also suffer post op issue wants to know the outcome too.


my case is more complicated than yours.


No definite answer to my residual corneal tissue. representative of their management just sent an email to informed me that the requested information is no longer in record and refuse to answer patient queries. Meaning they deleted patient data???? how are they going to monitor my eyes ?????
After that she just blocked my contact no.

Makes me even more pissed off with this lasik centre. Why a well known lasik centre can provide this type of service to their patient ????????

All these happen due to misrepresentation from surgeon Dr.Yen SS and optometrist Erica Paun chee Meei during pre op consultation, lousy skill and a unprofessional post op care.

Uninformed and unexpected post op effect are just too great , it is affecting my life .

Seriously , until now I still cant accept this unethical business practice.

Working on something. just a matter of time.

CHOOSE YOUR SURGEON WISELY

All above are my personal experience.

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post Nov 15 2017, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(syirbiznatch @ Nov 10 2017, 07:19 PM)
Sorry to hear this experience.. I hope that you can rectify the issue soon. That's why i'm reluctant to do this operation...
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hi syirbiznatch

you make a wise choice.

I don't think their doctors are capable enough to rectify my issue . if not they should have done it .

for example same lasik centre did the enhancement for miyoko28 but no improvement on her vision.

both of us reported to their management but quite disappointed with the irresponsible feed back.

Wonder when will this unethical doctor NSR:126414 and optometrist stop ruin others eyes ?????

"life-time warranty" offered is useless , cant rectify post op problem. scam

I hope my message will reach those who consider this type of surgery. think wisely.



judge for yourself.

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Nov 30 2017, 02:52 PM)
This laser eye treatment really works ? Since its dangerous

Is it a confirm 100% work process ?

Anyone can prove the results ?

I do not really have eye problems but at night my eyes are not that strong even with glasses
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The surgeon cant guarantee the result. So far no one can.

Lasik surgery will never improve your night vision. it might make your night vision worse than wearing glasses vision.

Please do tonnes of research about lasik b4 decide. Don't just listen to optometrist because they just want to hit their target and not capable to tell you about your eye condition. They will just tell you the positive result but not the negative impact.


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post Dec 20 2017, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(jialat @ Dec 5 2017, 09:51 AM)
Dont worry unless u have high refractive error or they said you are not suitable for lasik because cornea very thin. Then you must insist on doing this belin test before deciding on any surgery.
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Hi Jialat

You are a qualified optometrist rite n work for a lasik centre b4 ,would like to ask for your professional opinion .

how does ophthalmologist determine the residual corneal tissue for a post op lasik patient ? based on figure stated in the orbscan report ?

thank you
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QUOTE(kotakdadu @ Jan 10 2018, 09:52 PM)
Saya telah membuat femto lasik pada 3/1/2018 di optimax, pada seminggu post op semalam 10/1/2018 saya dikesani terdapat fine wrinkle di flap pada kornea pada kanan, semakin hari ianya jadi tidak selesa seperti terdapat benda tersangkut dikornea setiap kali saya blinking, rasa tidak selesa itu sangat ketara sewaktu saya menitik artificial drop, walaupun buat masa ini ia tidak menganggu vision saya tetapi makin lama saya makin out focus sedangkan 3 hari selepas operate ketidakselesaan itu langsung tiada dan mata terus fokus sharp untuk melihat sesuatu sebelum dikesani adanya wrinkle, bolehkan wrinkle tersebut diperbetulkan sementara ia masih baru lagi kerana makin hari ketidak selesaan itu sangat menganggu dan ketara

Ada sesiapa disini pernah mengalami masalah seperi saya dan adakah sesiapa yg pernah mendapat rawatan kembali utk membetulkan wrinkle tersebut di optimax?
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Sorry to hear about your case.

what is the advice from your surgeon ?


I had relex smile surgery. I felt uncomfortable also after few days from initial surgery. the eye just cant open for 1 minit , force to close my eye. I went back for check up by surgeon Dr.yen siew siang . she ask me to apply antibiotic eye drop only . one moment said fibre , one moment said something in interface. she is not helping at all. she is not telling the truth condition of my eye even my cornea eye is swollen , she just doesn't care.

I suffered for almost a month bc my eye cant open n function.

finally I am pissed off with her irresponsible feedback , I requested to refer to another doctor.

you know what , the optimax hq doctor requested me to have another surgery IMMEDIATELY to remove the debris stuck in my eye which caused my cornea swollen . that's mean not a clean surgery. They call it "wash out"

after the wash out , at least i can open my eye n see. but vision still bad even after 1year +.

So I suggest you get a "firm answer" from surgeon/ eye doctor what really caused your eye to feel uncomfortable.

just my opinion. it is your choice.

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post Jan 12 2018, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(kotakdadu @ Jan 11 2018, 03:28 PM)
Saya telah menelefon hq optimax dan mereka menerangkan itu adalah siptom eye dryness seperti yang selalu berlaku selepas perbedahan lasik namun saya telah menerangkan kembali bahawa bermula hari pertama sehingga keempat selepas perbedahan tiada apa rasa ketidakselesaan, kedua biji mata rasa selesa walaupun kering tetapi masuk hari kelima hanya mata belah kanan sahaja seperti ada sesuatu tersangkut pada permukaan mata setiap kali saya blinking atau menitikkan artificial drop pada mata, hanya ketika saya pejam muata dan buka mata tanpa berkelip ketidakselesaan itu tiada tetapi setiap kali saya blinking saya akan rasa ada sesuatu ketika eyelid saya melalui kornea mata kanan, kornea kiri walaupun kering juga tetapi setiap kali blinking tiada rasa ada apa-apa, smooth sahaja. Ketidakselesaan di kornea kanan mungkin disebabkan wrinkle tersebut yang mungkin baru terjadi pada hari Isnin dimana bermulanya masalah ketidakselesaan mata kanan itu berlaku. Lalu mereka meminta saya kembali ke optimax johor bahru pada esok hari untuk bertemu dengan Dr. Lam untuk pemeriksaan lebih lanjut untuk menentukan sama ada saya perlu menjalani flap re-float kornea belah kanan bagi membaiki wrinkle tersebut atau tidak
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Hi

Dr.Lam just joined optimax recently. hope he can help you .


Just my advice , ask for proof. if the doctor tell is due to XXX ask doctor to show you proof via picture and explain by fact. They have the technology to take picture of your eye. get a copy on the spot. if not later they refuse to provide the data.

my experience
Don't repeat my mistake trust the irresponsible doctorsss & optometrist n believe every damn thing they said. requested me to go back for check up for more than 10 times within 2 months+ but refuse to tell me the truth. I just believe their are professional doctor and they are here to help me. Proven I am wrong for believing them.
They are wasting my time n travel cost just to delay the thing....eye & vision damaged for the rest of my life.

Time , condition n vision of my vision now has prove that they are irresponsible doctor n lasik centre. worst thing , they failed to provide the data of my eye as agreed by their management n no compensation for the damage done.

think wisely.


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