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 Mechanical Keyboard Thread Reload V10, switches, keycaps, boards

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Ireferno
post Apr 15 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Apr 15 2013, 11:48 AM)
Wow, white switch, but expensive.
7Bit sells for RM2 each. 4EUR shipping.
Rs component need to order don't know how many thousand switches.
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It says this "Price Each (In a Pack of 5)"

Not sure if RM5.90 is for a pack or a switch..

Where do you get your switches? Or do you have spares? I want a couple of greens, blacks and browns. Wanna ship together?


Edit :
I found this too

http://store.qwerkeys.co.uk/collections/cherry-switches

Not sure how much is the shipping cost. But I still think it's cheaper to cannibalise another kb

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post Apr 15 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Ireferno @ Apr 15 2013, 12:34 PM)
It says this "Price Each (In a Pack of 5)"

Not sure if RM5.90 is for a pack or a switch..

Where do you get your switches? Or do you have spares? I want a couple of greens, blacks and browns. Wanna ship together?
Edit :
I found this too

http://store.qwerkeys.co.uk/collections/cherry-switches

Not sure how much is the shipping cost. But I still think it's cheaper to cannibalise another kb
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Rm5.90 is for each.
I got my switches from armygroup.com.tw
They have since run out of clear switches.

For low amount of switches, I suggest you getting them from Taobao/element14/Rs component.
Greens can be made by combining black springs with Blue stems.
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post Apr 15 2013, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Apr 15 2013, 12:57 PM)
Rm5.90 is for each.
I got my switches from armygroup.com.tw
They have since run out of clear switches.

For low amount of switches, I suggest you getting them from Taobao/element14/Rs component.
Greens can be made by combining black springs with Blue stems.
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kai, need some help regarding purchasing from pchome.
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post Apr 15 2013, 02:09 PM

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Finally bought one biggrin.gif

I HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS HAPPY


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post Apr 15 2013, 02:12 PM

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Hi All,
just a questions for all the Sifus, i'm new to mechanical keyboards, just wanted to know your views on the Gigabyte Osmium?

I keep seeing, ducky, vortex and many other mec keyboards where it is just a simple layout, and the only 3 i see with macro keys is corsair, logitech and gigabyte, wanna go for something special so i choose this keyboard, any thoughts?

Thank you.
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post Apr 15 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(khenghaw @ Apr 15 2013, 02:12 PM)
Hi All,
just a questions for all the Sifus, i'm new to mechanical keyboards, just wanted to know your views on the Gigabyte Osmium?

I keep seeing, ducky, vortex and many other mec keyboards where it is just a simple layout, and the only 3 i see with macro keys is corsair, logitech and gigabyte, wanna go for something special so i choose this keyboard, any thoughts?

Thank you.
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Check out CM Storm Trigger. Can't comment on the Osmium, never really heard about it before.
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post Apr 15 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(khenghaw @ Apr 15 2013, 02:12 PM)
Hi All,
just a questions for all the Sifus, i'm new to mechanical keyboards, just wanted to know your views on the Gigabyte Osmium?

I keep seeing, ducky, vortex and many other mec keyboards where it is just a simple layout, and the only 3 i see with macro keys is corsair, logitech and gigabyte, wanna go for something special so i choose this keyboard, any thoughts?

Thank you.
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the 'gaming' mech keyboards do have cosmetics here and there, but they are consistent and well-known to have short life span. so many problems happen quite early in their usage, so proper mech keyboard users/enthusiast wont really recommend them except for a very few certain models.

other than that, to really feel and enjoy mech keyboard goodness, you need to get those ducky/filco/vortex/rosewill branded ones. you will never regret buying them.
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post Apr 15 2013, 02:51 PM

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been reading here and there, and do agree that mech enthusiast, would go for the brands you mentioned, however i was thinking in a line where the prices are roughly the same, and since all of us are using cherry mx switches, it should be roughly the same right?

Earlier i went to the PC fair to get a glimpse of mec keyboards, but i only see ducky, so hard to decide.

For CM storm trigger, i saw on youtube that the larger keys will "stick" so kinda discourage to try that brand.

So little choices for "gaming" keyboard, but for a RM385 price tag, Osmium, seems very good with USB3.0 pass thru and mic and headphone jacks
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(khenghaw @ Apr 15 2013, 02:51 PM)
been reading here and there, and do agree that mech enthusiast, would go for the brands you mentioned, however i was thinking in a line where the prices are roughly the same, and since all of us are using cherry mx switches, it should be roughly the same right?

Earlier i went to the PC fair to get a glimpse of mec keyboards, but i only see ducky, so hard to decide.

For CM storm trigger, i saw on youtube that the larger keys will "stick"  so kinda discourage to try that brand.

So little choices for "gaming" keyboard, but for a RM385 price tag, Osmium, seems very good with USB3.0 pass thru and mic and headphone jacks
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There are many factors other than cherry mx switches that determine the quality of a mech keyboard. Controller, PCB board, stabiliser, layout, keycap used and etc.
For example of Proton wira, it use Mistu engines. But failed on small thing like Power window, rattle engine mounting, gearbox and other non-engine related problem.



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post Apr 15 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(khenghaw @ Apr 15 2013, 02:51 PM)
Earlier i went to the PC fair to get a glimpse of mec keyboards, but i only see ducky, so hard to decide.

For CM storm trigger, i saw on youtube that the larger keys will "stick"  so kinda discourage to try that brand.

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Link me, I wanna watch it too. Was originally planning to get it..

Stick around for abit, most of the forumers here have something to sell (LOL)

You'll see us discussing about our kbs too and just take note lol
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(khenghaw @ Apr 15 2013, 02:51 PM)
been reading here and there, and do agree that mech enthusiast, would go for the brands you mentioned, however i was thinking in a line where the prices are roughly the same, and since all of us are using cherry mx switches, it should be roughly the same right?

Earlier i went to the PC fair to get a glimpse of mec keyboards, but i only see ducky, so hard to decide.

For CM storm trigger, i saw on youtube that the larger keys will "stick"  so kinda discourage to try that brand.

So little choices for "gaming" keyboard, but for a RM385 price tag, Osmium, seems very good with USB3.0 pass thru and mic and headphone jacks
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if it fits your need, go ahead, no worries. there are cheaper and much better options in Rosewill, plus the osmium modifier bar keycaps are different sizes from normal cherrys. if you want to change them to custom choices, it will be very hard to find.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:08 PM

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is the Rosewill 9000 got USB loose cable problem??
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:12 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHwzru9nc8

This was the review i saw where the keyboard sticks.

The custom keycaps is also my concerns, thanks for the info, cause i will get bored of my keyboard soon tongue.gif

So hard to find review which clearly comment the osmium, maybe need to try out the board before buying it.

Thanks for all the advice smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(./Hack-Fusion @ Apr 15 2013, 03:08 PM)
is the Rosewill 9000 got USB loose cable problem??
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early 2012 units might have that problem, Rosewill already fixed the issue.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ Apr 15 2013, 03:28 PM)
early 2012 units might have that problem, Rosewill already fixed the issue.
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any idea how to check it? , if i got heavy arm there buy..im not sure got that problem or not, thx~
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM

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Btw anyone know how to fix controller?
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(JohnDiew0107 @ Apr 15 2013, 03:28 PM)
early 2012 units might have that problem, Rosewill already fixed the issue.
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QUOTE(./Hack-Fusion @ Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM)
any idea how to check it? , if i got heavy arm there buy..im not sure got that problem or not, thx~
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Early 2012 was a year ago, the problem is long gone.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(bv2427 @ Apr 15 2013, 03:51 PM)
Early 2012 was a year ago, the problem is long gone.
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hmm, my fren's fren bought it early this year around Jan..says sent to warranty 2 times already, that's what i heard from my fren, so want to clarify it, and swt..asked my fren..he bought from Heavy arm...after 2 times fixed it, still loose..

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post Apr 15 2013, 04:17 PM

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I think I ordered a filco from Edifier. =x
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post Apr 15 2013, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(khenghaw @ Apr 15 2013, 02:12 PM)
Hi All,
just a questions for all the Sifus, i'm new to mechanical keyboards, just wanted to know your views on the Gigabyte Osmium?

I keep seeing, ducky, vortex and many other mec keyboards where it is just a simple layout, and the only 3 i see with macro keys is corsair, logitech and gigabyte, wanna go for something special so i choose this keyboard, any thoughts?

Thank you.
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my suggestion if when purchasing mechanical keyboard is understand a few things....

1. keyboard is probably one of the things you should upgrade last. if i had the choice between spending on a graphics card or a keyboard, obviously i'd get the graphics card first.

2. mechanical keyboards aren't cheap. Decent ones range around RM 1100, so don't get stingy when trying to get one. If really want cheap for keyboard, just get a rubberdome keyboard for like Rm20-40 case closed. But just don't expect they are better than mechanical keyboards, they aren't.

3. what makes mechanical keyboards better than rubber dome ones, is because of better typing accuracy, better experience actuating keys. With the appropriate mechanical switches, typing on say Cherry mx red or browns, will make typing over long periods of time less taxing on your fingers. The same can't be said for cherry mx blacks; so not all mechanical switches are equal. They are all tailored for different types of keyboard typists.

4. For beginners to mechanical keyboards, i recommend either cherry mx red or cherry mx brown (i'm using the browns)

5. just because the keyboard has led lightning for keycaps does not necessarily make them good. For example, good quality keycaps tend not to have led lighting. Because they tend to be either double shot keycaps, or dye sublimated. The only exception would be led lighted double shot keycaps like legend keyboard by Deck. A good quality keycap is simply one that doesn't wear and tear the lettering print. Also the lettering print contrast comes out bright and clear. Also one that doesn't shine, or as easily as regular keycaps (e.g. you don't expect the key prints to be gone after only a months worth of typing .... those types are bad), which is due to the type of plastic they use to make the keycaps e.g. pbt, abs or pom.

6. NKRO is an important term a gamer should know for keyboards. 6KRO means, you can only activate 6 key actions simultaneously, max. Most keyboards are 2KRO. So 6KRO by most usage, even gamer standards is pretty acceptable. However if you feel this is not enough, then NKRO which has no limit, is the way to go.

7. a modern keyboard either uses a PS2 or USB port. PS2 seems to be the most reliable, but motherboards are these days not adding them anymore. So USB is the safer route to go with, but USB NKRO implementations sometimes are not that great. So you need to investigate yourself whether the keyboards USB NKRO has any issues or not before considering getting that model with it.




buying tips:

1. have a fix budget of what your willing to pay. I suggest Rm 1100 at minimum

2. decide which mechanical switch you are looking for since this is the most crucial choice for a mechanical keyboard. I recommend either cherry mx red or brown.

3. don't be fooled by good looks. Add that only as your last consideration. A lot of other factors have greater precedent, such as price within your budget, build quality, what mechanical switches it uses, is it NKRO capable ? extra features ?

4. weigh in which type of quality of keycaps you can live with based in key print method and plastic quality was used to make it. Then do a price comparison to see the best fit.

5. there are many different brands, but i suggest starting from Ducky, before comparing with others nod.gif


Hope that helped nod.gif




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This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 15 2013, 04:26 PM

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