Me only giving suggestion mah, i never shoot you also (unlike someone ).

Only a friendly advice, no hard feelings ya.

LOL. Everyone's afraid of limeuu and hypermax.

About USMLE, it's just an entrance exam. Passing it does not mean that you can register with US, there're still lots and lots of procedures to go thru. Most of the students did it to know where they stand internationally, in terms of the quality of medical education they had/are doing.

I wanna ask about the fee structure in Aimst. From Science Foundation to B.Sc Pharmacy (HONS). Total Fee by semester include basic fee and miscellaneous (hostel, meal, laundry and etc.) after being minus from the PTPTN loan. Thanks, and i really appreciate for WHOEVER's information.

wasn't talking to you.......asking a simple question to commentor, of course i think he means peace, but need to confirm, hence a simple question.....really a chip on the shoulders.......

wow..
limeuu and hypermax spice up the thread..
isn't it nice for people like them make this thread fun to read!!

hehe..
btw, nobody is asking u to apologise..
plus, really, we can't do much about setting standards and quality..
all will depend on the individual themselves..

As i have mentioned before, bashing or not the particular student is entering medical course whether he likes it or not. So why not make this forum a more peaceful place by shutting his mouth instead of attacking others?

Things happen so quickly around here ... but I believe that more than the entrance examination or grades; it is the final outcome: the product of five years of teaching should be considered. Anyone with reasonable skill can be polished to excellence. At least that is what education is supposed to be, not a purely discriminatory discipline of who gets to learn and who not.

The discriminatory practice is due to the limited resources but private education has seen in a level of increased opportunities. At least that is what I choose to see; rather than the money, time and deceit people claim. Unless you have positive statistics to say that private medical students are generally less skilled than government doctors, one shouldn't start a Never-Ending-War. A piece of my two cents.

one can justify anything, if one is convinced one is right.......even murderers may believe they have done the world good, in their misguided minds........

i have explained the mess of msian education, which i think all are aware of.......the racial discrimination in ipta, the financial discrimination in ipts........and we are all aware the situation in ipts exist as a counterweight to ipta......

but 2 wrongs DO NOT make a right........

i have made my stance clear.......and i do not agree with the self gratifying justification above.......i am obviously NOT alone in this........countries like uk, oz, usa, spore all practice strict vetting of potential doctors entering training........

if i am wrong, i guess these developed countries are also wrong.....well.....their education policy must be more messed up than msia's.......but strangely, msian who can afford it, all seem to prefer to go to these countries.........

so who is right and wrong?

i accept, under the circumstances in msia, it is impossible to change to a more coherent education masterplan, so things will continue to evolve along  uneven lines.......that doesn't mean we should NOT strive to improve the situation.......

yes, of course the end product is important...there will be many good doctors trained, together with some bad ones.....but if toyota can implement a 'zero defect' policy in their assembly lines, should we not also strive to have a zero-defect policy in doctor training?........

if so, then tell me what can be done to attempt a zero-defect production.......?....toyota uses a strict zero defect acceptance of parts as one of the measures.........

the final key word here is QUALITY.......justification that everybody should be given a chance is not QUALITY......it's MEDIOCRITY of the lowest common denominator, which is what msia education is both ipta and ipts, unfortunately......

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Added on March 7, 2009, 8:35 amas a side note.....notice i did not mention about nz........

well, nz implements a policy of giving everybody a chance.....just like what some wants......everybody with a pass in ncea (their pre-u) can enter health sciences 1st year.........so they take in some 1200 students in auckland u.......

there are however 250 places in medicine.........so the 1200 people fight to get into 250 places........

maybe we should try that system........fair or not?........

Limeuu,

Boy, that's really an emo statement.

You reminded me of the Singaporean movie "money no enough 2". In the movie, one of the actor stated that Singaporean always complain, complain and complain, but not actions are taken in real life.

Who are you to judge? This is a forum after all, where people gather around and share info, not bashing one another.

You are too biased and harsh in your comments, and when you do that , you provoked people and they tend to challenge you. In the end, nothing will be changed, except that anger and hatred are born.

Hey, just a quick question, In dentistry in aimst right... The housemanship is included in the 5 years dental surgery right? so after the 5 years u straight come out and serve in the government hospital right?

does the foundation in aimst is same as stpm??
then the foundation grade also depend on the presentation n experiment??

cause i get my stpm result, but my results doesn't fulfill the requirement for MBBS.
now i need to know anyone got try before tat take the foundation final exam n join the aimst??

i decided to take foundation in science for april intake...
izit foundation students has the 1st priority to enter MBBS??
if i score good result in my foundation, izit sure can get a seat in MBBS??

There is no way to simply sit the foundation exam and not wise to either. Most stpm students would have not taken physics plus there is a 50% coursework including two term exams and various assignments.

Even if you choose to do foundation here, got to warn you that MBBS is highly competitive. So i think enough is said.

TC!

You really can't say so ... they will take outside students but priority is given for foundation students but not all who do well want to do medicine... most go for BDS and BPharm as well. So you really can't judge that way. However for outside students, the grade criteria is high ... they took only three for my batch (of 70) ... one had like 4As for A-Levels and one had 3.9 something from gov matriculation. But that was then, now there are more seats ...

But its not getting a seat that matters, holding on to it ... not crashing in any professional exams and for that you must have a solid foundation and know your stuff. So one way or another, you got to be pretty sharp. tc!

I don't think IMU and Monash are on the same league as PMC and Manipal.

imu-pms and monash are premier league......

imu-local, mmmc, pmc are 1st division....... ...maybe can add aimst.......

the others 2nd division..........

just wan to know smtg la...
IMU, AIMST, Manipal,Pmd, Monash n UCSI.
which uni is the best n rank all the uni i stated here...

is cucms and usci that bad? why?

is cucms and usci that bad? why?

i just finish my stpm last year. and i plan to apply for aimst medicine course. Do i stand any chance for it?? my cgpa 3.59 which my bio chem maths A- A- A.
as i know, mostly it will accept its foundation year student and A level student, meaning that i get less chances to get its offer?

1.when is the closing date of applying?
2.is there any interview? where will it be held? when is it?
3.is there any " first come first serve " ?
4.is it accreditated by MMC, LAN, JPA, and others?
5.how's the facilities there? ( good, just okay, poor )
6.can i get the discount for the fees base on my SPM result? 35%? I get 9As.
7.how is the employability of graduates compared to IMU or Manipal Melaka students?
8.is the holidays basically same as the government school holidays?

I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWERS. THANKS A LOT.

sure it is recognised by the MMC, even the 1st batch have graduated and practicing already. and i dun think there's a problem of employment for the doctors now, but MMA said there might be excess of doctors in 2014, so competition might come in.