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University AIMST University Unofficial LYN Thread, New life. New beat. New Campus.

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post Jan 2 2009, 05:28 PM

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Added on January 2, 2009, 8:24 pm
QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Jan 2 2009, 06:28 PM)
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within these two years the fees of MBBS will increase further or not?
Thats the things i worry the most....haiz.......!!!!
i mean tuition fees will still RM220000?

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post Jan 3 2009, 12:28 PM

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hey!!!yshiuan!!! What course are you doing in AIMST now?Dental surgery or MBBS or BIOTECH.......Or.....?????

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post Jan 3 2009, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 3 2009, 01:54 PM)
I'm biotech student.
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oh good...bright future...my cousin also do biotech but in USA....all the best...kampateh...gogogo!!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 3 2009, 05:16 PM

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hey csrulez.....what is your result in foundation, all A+ oh?
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post Jan 3 2009, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jan 3 2009, 07:33 PM)
i've been reading your posts in this thread,
you are one very enthusiastic fellow aren't you MBBS Siang? heheheh..
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Are you doing medic in india now?


Added on January 3, 2009, 6:53 pmor you r a doctor?

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post Jan 3 2009, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 3 2009, 09:29 PM)
medicine, dentistry and biotech now are very strong, hv good lecturers. as for other courses, u know i know la.
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hey bro! the problem of edge85 say will affect MBBS or not?one year foundation leh...i dont want to take a risk...i dont mean i dont trust AIMST but i just worry my future!!!! But i think that is no problem for MBBS isn it?cos mmc already recognised that should be no problem is it???????
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post Jan 4 2009, 01:33 PM

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hey hey!!!!csrulez may i know your result in foundation or not?
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post Jan 4 2009, 01:52 PM

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[QUOTE][quote=csrulez,Jan 4 2009, 12:55 AM]
AIMST did quite abit in holding our lecturers actually, in fact few weeks ago IMU was about to grab away 2 of our very best microbiologist and pathologist by offering a much higher salary compared to AIMST. So what the school did was to promote both of them straightaway and thank god they'll be now staying with us. We can't afford to lose them. In fact, lecturers are okay and quite sufficient for the school of medicine. Am not sure of other schools. Therefore, i'm sure that we're currently up to the standard. Yshiuan will clarify on the school of biotech while edge85 on the school of dentistry i guess.[/QUOTE]

oic! then that should be no problem la....haha...cool down everyone....buck up together!!!!all the best!!!![I][U]

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post Jan 6 2009, 12:48 PM

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come on bro...you are from same university is no point for arguing the quality of school....like csrulez say...AIMST is just a young university you should give it some times to prove the quality....the doctor graduate from AIMST is recognised that mean they are qualified...the(]MBBS degree is second class relative to aussie/uk and indon/russia !!!
BDS (AIMST) It's gonna be lower class anyhow.))
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Hey dont comment the quality of any degree although that is your own school...you comment it base on what?actually nothing...only base on what you think...your responsibility is to prove AIMST is good by get a good result and pratise the good skill when you are graduate...not just keep on arguing and criticise..what for?you are just lower down yourself everyone will keep one look down on AIMST....!!!!!oh!!!!!haiz.....Hospital???HaHa....edge85 can you behave more mature and think before you say something...Do you know to built up a hospital how hard is it?It cost a lot of money...and it need a lot of high tech devices and it required a lot of expertise?or you think it just like a LEGO can simply built up?

But from the students who enrol into medicine nowadays, it makes the profession look cheap. Particularly with the ones who enter via the foundation of science programme....[I]
hey UM also set up a foundation what!!!The standard of local matriculation is not much differences from the foundation as my friend told me the standard is almost the same....The local U also do the same in order to make it easier!!!is this mean the student quality will be low...no definitely no...actually STPM or A level study very much and yes it has the high standard of course but so what!!!!actually a lot of rubbish we study such as(ecosystem,variation that kind of rubbish is not use isn it?) is not required when doing medicine or dentistry!!!so i think foundation or matriculation is actually aim for the target
accurately!!!! in addition,the priority given to the foundation student is nothing wrong...of course la...if not their study for what...it is not the same as A level or STPM which is recognised by any higher education institute...so that is reasonable!!!dont you think so?
so cheap????i don think so.....

STOP ARGUING for anything again...that is no advantages to the AIMST ...others will keep on look down on you all....dont make this seem like a kindergarden..be mature edge85...how old are you?still do that kind of silly things...you should give AIMST even more time to prove good point since it is still new and not always criticise....haiz.......... sweat.gif sweat.gif doh.gif


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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 6 2009, 01:35 PM)
the products of any med school is only as good as the raw materials taken in, and only as good as the teachers that mould these raw materials.........

any med school that takes in sub standard students, will inevitably produce some substandard doctors.........

arguements that they also produce excellent doctors, or that even top world class med schools produce some duds hold no water, as the intention is the point here......

that is why i am critical of ALL medical schools with poor selection criteria and process.......this is compounded in msia, and many 3rd world countries, by the curse of private medical education, which then allows people to BUY into med school........

i repeat what i have said many times........future doctors should be selected from the best students, academically, intellectually, aplititudically.......and NOT based on who can pay for it.......and certainly NOT the colour of one's skin......

none of msia's med schools fulfill this........ipts suffers from funding skews, and ipta sufers from racial skews.........

p/s going by recent media reports, trouble is brewing in the upper management of aimst.......
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i agree with your point..especially dont base on the skin...

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QUOTE(csrulez @ Jan 6 2009, 03:37 PM)
I'd say attitude as the number one concern here in many of the medical school asides from being intellectual, intelligent etc. Therefore i always thought that interviews are an important process to screen out applicants who are not eligible. By this, i do not mean of those interviewers who mainly likes to ask about one's financial background. I think aimst should have stricter rules on their selection process, that's all. By having some interview, amplitude test or something.

Hopefully the management problem would not affect the academics much. There's too much corruption in AIMST cause of the political influences.
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Yaya! attitude is very important...and i think interview is "must" and not just the "need" in any selection of medical school!!! maybe there are not 100%to make sure the eligibility of a student but at least can make sure that who with attitude problem cannot enter to it...and the selection will be more fair as compared to the selection which without interview!!! I really hope the political power shuold be stop from being control any institute...they are not just influence but indirectly they are control everything...I really really strongly protest and disagree with any action of any political party which try to control the management of any education institute..especially medical school.....

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post Jan 7 2009, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 6 2009, 09:45 PM)
most of the U hv that kind of prob too. if dun affect the education can d.
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ya...thats true...very good example is UTAR...actually the political party involve the education institute have it advantages also...like the recognition,we don have to worry the recognition just like edge85 say they can pull the string...and also they are easy to get the support of financial agency and subsidies of government...so the U can provide a cheaper education to the poor student especially to the medical and allied health sciences student....But the thing is the political power will normally try to control and influence the any decision of the school authority..sometime this will indirectly lead the management of the school to be corrupted...so hopefully AIMST will not face any difficulties in maintain or create a good academic condition to all student there and of course prospective student like me Haha..... icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


Added on January 7, 2009, 5:19 pm1hey bro....the bachelor of pharmacy not yet recognised by pharmacy board is it?
2will the application very competitive too?ask for my younger brother sake!!!!haha!!!
3how many person enrolled per intake?

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post Jan 7 2009, 10:59 PM

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wasai!!!!!everyone just ignore me oh????If I say something wrongly im here apologize okok?forgive me oo!!!!haha.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif nod.gif nod.gif
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congratulation to AIMST...haha...kampateh to all the MBBS student there!!!!!!!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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1. Many grads from Indonesia also qualified. Will you let him, or let a UM grad treat your family (touch wood)?

2. What is wrong with commenting on my own school? I think the school's own students are the best ones to do so. If not, who else?

3. Never did I mentioned anything a hospital. I was saying Indian teachers were fooled into thinking AIMST has it's own hospital. If you can't read English, please don't take up MBBS. Do google up on paragraphing too.


1. yes of course..I will also let a indonesia graduate to treat my family!!!
2.that is nothing wrong for you to comment your own school but dont do that untill others to look down your school...
3.ya...thats my fault...maybe i was misunderstood what you are actually say...sorry for my rudeness and benight!!!!
thanks for your suggestion....but i will still try very hard to attain my dream....

Haha...cool down okok!!! sorry edge85 : notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Jan 17 2009, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 16 2009, 09:08 PM)
guys, here become kopitiam d.
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hey yshiuan dont you see the missle around us....so we just keeping up our mouth and put it in the pocket!!!!! Actually the discussion is quite interesting..!!we can know more about current issue without reading news paper!!!haha!!!carry on guy!!!! rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 17 2009, 02:38 AM)
ya, become Gaza d. laugh.gif
got some terms i dun even understand also. laugh.gif
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the offensive of Israel to Gaza!!!!wah..awesome!!!!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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think we should let the manipal thread die, so i am transferring this info on the best practice principles for medical school student selection here.....

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1. Selection of medical students should firstly be based on academic merit. There are more than adequate number of potential candidates with interest and passion in the profession from a group of top 5% students in any cohort. (in msia, that is 10,000+ students)

2. From this group, final selection should be done based on aplittude, attitude, interest, compassion and other attributes.

3. money should NOT be a factor in the selection process. The practice of buying places is bad.

4. developed countries are consistent in their selection and training process, based on 1, 2 and 3. and thus has the best record of consistent, quality med education....

5. ipta/ipts and many (not all) 3rd world schools suffer from selection and training (mostly assessment) issues, resulting in inconsistent quality of students and graduates.

6. Exceptions occur, but cannot be used as justification for allowing poorly qualified students to 'try' medical education.
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thats true...(final selection should be done based on aplitude, attitude, interest, compassion and other attributes.) this will definitely ensure the student selected are really fit to enter the med school!!!!!!(Selection of medical students should firstly be based on academic merit.Money should NOT be a factor in the selection process. The practice of buying places is bad).....be fair to the qualified student but not give priority to the rich(ipts)/base on skin(ipta) but who are not fit to it!!!(3rd world schools suffer from selection and training (mostly assessment) issues, resulting in inconsistent quality of students and graduates.)this is another fact!!!! inconsistency in student selection really make this profession terrible....some stupid fellow even worse than a nurse and paramedic...actually a well trained doctor should be confident,skillful and calm...but what i have observe just opposite on it especially in public rural hospital or clinic...just a small wound cnt also manage it well..untill the villages dissapointed on them...i was the victim....."Doctor" holy title but use it on stupid incompetent fellow really hell!!!!!!!these all are due to the idiot selection system!!!!

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post Jan 18 2009, 06:00 AM

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cool down man...this forum is just providing the space for discussion not war!!!!people from the same field being exchange idea and knowledge is good but seem your discussion is too much than this.....you all are future doctor so shouldn't agitated vmad.gif easily isn it? no matter you are from reputable U(developed countries) or "normal"medical school(3rd world countries) i think exchanging the idea is better than attacking each other by "rocket salvoes"!!!!! please!!!!cool down evryone!!!!haha...this is my sincere advice to all of you rclxms.gif

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post Jan 22 2009, 06:33 PM

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the MBBS of AIMST is recognised by WHO or not?
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post Jan 22 2009, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 22 2009, 08:07 PM)
who does not, and never have, 'recognise' medical schools.......but they do keep a register of medical schools of the world, and aimst is listed.......

recognition of medical schools and their degrees for the purpose of registration to practice, is a sovereign function and right of each individual country.........
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oic...thanks!!!limeuu....!!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif one more thing...do you know the master programme of emergency medicine of usm is competitive or not?just want to know more!!! thanks notworthy.gif

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