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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries v2, Loan agents pls read the 1st post!

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silverchain
post Jul 10 2015, 02:42 AM

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I got a question, does Commodity Murabahah Home Financing-i offered by maybank considered full flexi too? Because when i try to apply for a conventional full flexi, the bank agent recommended me that instead. He told me it is exactly similar too full flexi because we could open a current account and dump in money to reduce interest/tenure and still have the authority to withdraw any amount in times of need. Is it true? I have yet to apply any loan yet, just curious about this. Some more the effective rate is 5.15%. Aint it abit high? rclxub.gif
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post Jul 10 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 10 2015, 05:09 AM)
When customers apply through me for Maybank, I always recommend Homeequity-i instead. It is the one most closely resemble a conventional loan, but with Islamic principles of course. It is in essence a buy-and-lease contract, as you stay in the property you pay rent to the bank that owns a larger share of the property. At the same time, you buy back the banks' share. Rate is between 4.4 to 4.6% depending on credit profile, loan amount, project/subsale.
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Thanks for your kind suggestion sir smile.gif . But in terms of repayment plan for homeequity-i, how does it fare compare to a conventional full flexi provided if we have extra amount to dump in the current account. And btw, how do u summarize the commodity murabahah home financing-i. Does it have the same eligibility as conventional full flexi? hmm.gif
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post Sep 1 2016, 11:04 PM

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i got a lil doubt. For semi flexi and full flexi loan. Lets say if i make a loan of 300k for 30 years with monthly installment of 1.5k. Then i put in a lump sump of 300k in my current acc that link to the loan. Will my monthly installment of 1.5k straight away deduct principal repayment with no interest for the rest of the loan period?
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post Sep 2 2016, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 2 2016, 06:58 AM)
In your theory.  It's correct but banks will not allow you to do so as they will penalise you for putting in the full amount back to the loan account as the purpose of the bank is to earn your interest. Doing so would trigger them as you intend to fully settle off the loan or they will have clause that will not allow you to put more than certain % of the loan amount.
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Oh i see, in your opinion what is the best way to do this? to pay the least interest as possible and settle the loan at the soonest without getting penalise or being harassed by income tax rclxub.gif
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post Sep 2 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 2 2016, 11:22 AM)
Yes you're right
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im looking forward for ur advise sir smile.gif
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post Sep 2 2016, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 2 2016, 11:37 AM)
If your loan doesn't have any lock in period then settle it as soon as possible. If it has lock in then try to finish paying the loan as soon as the lock in period is over. This will help you reduce interest paid to the bank in the long run.

Regards to income tax. You'll need to figure it out on that 1.
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Ohh i see, no choice but to still service the interest then wink.gif sad.gif

QUOTE(MrKK @ Sep 2 2016, 12:20 PM)
Hi dear,

1. Yes it is true but the bank will have a capping of amount of money that you could park into your current account. Some banks might required you to provide valid reason and the source of cash that came from

CHEERS  biggrin.gif
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where can i find out how much capping amount of money ya? cuz i cant seem to find it on my loan agreement and etc confused.gif
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post Sep 2 2016, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 2 2016, 03:06 PM)
In the bank LO

If not stated then normally it's advisable to put up to 70% - 80% only
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QUOTE(MrKK @ Sep 2 2016, 03:02 PM)
Hi dear,

You could step up to the bank branch that you open the current account and query them because different bank have different practice.

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ahh i see..thanks for all your guys info biggrin.gif thumbup.gif
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post Feb 5 2017, 09:48 PM

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Anyone have a flexi loan spreadsheet? That can show us how much interest we'll be paying if we have certain amount park inside our current account tied to the loan and etc. .
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post Feb 5 2017, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 5 2017, 10:04 PM)
that one have the option to key in amount in current acc?
example like,i have loan of 250k full flexi, with monthly commitment of rm1300 for 30years
-so if i have no money inside the current acc, i will be paying like rm1.2k to interest and 100 to principal and loan will end in 30years
-but if i have 100k in the current acc, i will be paying like rm800 to interest and 500 to principal and loan will end in 20 years.

That type of calculator or spreadsheet have? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Feb 5 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 5 2017, 10:32 PM)
Those are paid app already

Unless you can find those free ones on your own
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ahh i see, which paid app are u referring to? i dont mind paying a little if it could save me a thousand in the future
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post Feb 10 2017, 09:56 PM

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I got a question, regarding my full flexi loan. I have a loan of 260k with monthly installment of 1345. When my current acc is empty, Every month they deduct my principal by 345 only and 1000 goes to interest. Then now after i park a lump sum of rm100k to my current acc. My installment paid still shows 345 to principal and 1000 to interest. I thought for flexi loan, it will ofset the interest based on the amount in my current acc which should be 260-100= 160k? Am i missing something here. . . 🤔
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post Feb 10 2017, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 10 2017, 10:24 PM)
Best for you to confirm will be with the bank customer officer to clarify with them
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Can u show me the calculation for a flexi loan, with and without park money. How do bank calculate how much goes for interest and how much for principal? Need to have some general idea how it works
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post Feb 11 2017, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 10 2017, 11:58 PM)
Refer to the above
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post Feb 16 2017, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(ssh2222 @ Feb 16 2017, 11:49 AM)
Hi,

Would you be able to provide the actual breakdown of numbers? You can PM if you want to keep it private.

The actual terms will depend on your loan agreement, but generally speaking , you're right that the bank will continue to deduct the same instalment amount every month, but the amount that goes to interest and reducing the principle will be based on the outstanding.

It's also important to look into how long the RM100k has been sitting in the account, since the interest will be calculated daily, so if you put it in a few days before your next instalment is due, the difference shown will definitely quite small. Also whether the RM100k (or any part of it) has been withdrawn or not will play a part too.

You also mentioned that it's the same every month 345 principle and 1000 interest. Even without putting in the RM100k, there should be some minor changes to the amount every month, since you are reducing the principle every month (by around RM345 as you mentioned), so the interest charged will change too, but very little.

In the end, the answer will be in your loan agreement, and can be clarified by speaking with the bank.

I hope this helps.

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Thanks for your concern, i think i know the problem already as i read back the offer letter. I found the key word there that says " any advance payment redraw facility will be subjected to a processing fee of rm25" . So, i assume my loan with maybank was a semi flexi type instead of full flexi right? Is it possible to have a semi flexi loan with a current acc tied to the loan at the same time? The mortgage consultant that handle my case wasnt so informed regarding this matter. doh.gif
So, lets say if my loan was a semi flexi type, can i switch it or refinance to full flexi under same bank? What are the charges that may incur? Or should i just stayed on the semi flexi type rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Feb 16 2017, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 16 2017, 02:26 PM)
cannot just immediately "Switch over" from semi to full flexi.

You can't maintain a current account with a semi flexi loan.

You'll need to refinance the whole loan if you want to change to full flexi.

You'll need to pay penalty fee for refinancing within lock in period + another loan agreement fee.

Best solution? stick with what you've gotten. Perhaps next time you should engage a more professional banker.
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What do you mean by cant maintain a current account with semi flexi loan? Means, i cant just simply put lump sump fund in the current acc to reduce semi flexi interest or i cant have a current acc link to the semi flexi loan at all?

Well, the bank offer letter should have been more specific on which loan type that is offered to their customer instead of just categorized it as conventional loan. That way, I wouldnt have just blindly accepting all the bullshit the consultant have told me. dry.gif
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post Feb 16 2017, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 16 2017, 04:06 PM)
You can't have current account link to the semi flexi loan

Hello,  you are suppose to read through it before signing the dotted line.
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Wait a minute, then my loan was a semi or full? Cuz i am having a current acc link to the loan as of right now. It's just that i noticed my interest wasnt reducing no matter how much money in dump in the CA. Guess ill have to pay a visit to the bank to clarify this matter rclxub.gif

Yeah i know, but i didnt really understood the difference between semi flexi and full flexi during that time. All the while, i thought there were only islamic type loan and conventional loan as of what the consultant told me. That is why i get confused. If the offer letter clearly state there Semi Flexi / Full flexi i would have second thoughts and might have just googled it then before signing the offer sweat.gif
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post Feb 17 2017, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Feb 16 2017, 10:52 PM)
Dear silverchain,
1. It's a semi flexi , there's always a processing fees for withdrawal for semi flexi

2. You can't switch like that, you need to refinance to switch the whole account thingy

3. That's why always get a consultant or experience banker to handle cases, else now you had already locked down with a not so desirable package for life till refinance or sold off your property
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Yeah, i learned my lesson now.

So now, what i can do is. Provided if i wont be needing to use the 100k in the CA, i could just called the bank to use it as an extra payment. This way it also offset the principal balance and reduces the total interest and tenure like a full flexi right?
And if really emergency, i could still withdraw the extra payment of 100k with the processing fee of rm25.
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post Feb 17 2017, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 17 2017, 12:12 AM)
Yeap that's how a semi flexi loan works.
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Roger that, thanks for all you guys input. It's much easier discuss it here than talking to the bank agent laugh.gif

 

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