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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries v2, Loan agents pls read the 1st post!

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phoenixxx
post Jun 16 2015, 09:14 AM

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Will the 50% stamp duty exemption still apply if the property (residential house) is purchased under 2 names?

Name #1 - this is the second property purchased
Name #2 - this is the first property purchased

Also, would appreciate any recommendations for loan package for financing the property.
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post Jun 16 2015, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Jun 16 2015, 03:11 PM)
Yes. the 50% is entitle for name #2.

For eg stamp duty total is 1000 will count divide to 2. each person 500, and name 2 entitle 50% discount 250 so total stamp duty is 750 instead of 1000
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Thanks. I also managed to find out a bit more. In addition to what you said, 50% discount is only applicable for properties <RM500,000 according to lawyer.
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post Jun 23 2015, 02:27 PM

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Hi sifus,

I have a few package to consider, hope you can provide some input

House value: 1,250,000
Loan: 1,125,000 (90%)

Bank 1
Interest: 4.35%
MRTA: Not compulsory
Flexi charges: Setup fee and monthly maintenance waived
Others: N/A

Bank 2 (Islamic Loan)
Interest: 4.4%
MRTA: Not compulsory
Flexi charges: RM212 setup, RM10.60 monthly maintenance for flexi account
Others: 0.1% loan value rebate (RM1,125) + priority banking + 20% stamp duty discount

Bank 3
Interest: 4.35% 1st year, 4.4% after
MRTA: Compulsory if want 4.35%, otherwise follow arrangement above
Flexi charges: same as Bank 2
Others: N/A

Am I getting good deal? What are some things I can ask or nego further?

Thanks
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post Jun 25 2015, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(rubylam @ Jun 25 2015, 12:01 AM)
hi,

I think option 1 is the best, but... need to see what is the spread for the loan.. for long term spread is the most important...
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Thanks all sifus for your input smile.gif

rubylam, can elaborate more on the spread? So far the lowest BR I think is Bank 2. Should I go for the bank with lowest BR for long term?

Also, some offer me Islamic. But after some research I find it is almost the same. Islamic give 20% discount on stamp duty, but add charge due to extra loan doc which can be up to 2-3 extra documents. End up offset each other. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.
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post Jul 1 2015, 03:20 PM

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"All partial prepayment as aforesaid shall be applied towards the repayment of the instalments of the housing / term loan in the inverse order of their maturity.

What does the "inverse order" part mean?

Got this from Google but still quite blur rclxub.gif

When payments are received from borrowers that are larger than the authorized repayment schedules, the overpayment is credited to the final installments of the principal, which reduces the maturity of the loan and does not affect the original repayment schedule

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post Jul 2 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 1 2015, 11:22 PM)
Hello, I can't speak for about the loan account without reading the letter offer, but I can comment on the google search that you found: http://www.investordictionary.com/definiti...der-of-maturity

"When payments are received from borrowers that are larger than the authorized repayment schedules, the overpayment is credited to the final installments of the principal, which reduces the maturity of the loan and does not affect the original repayment schedule"

1. This simply means that any advance payments (or overpayment in this context) made will not be used to reduce your capital/loans-outstanding. The "overpayment" will be used instead to reduce the final installment of your loan, which is made upon the maturity of your loan.

2. So let's say your loan installment is RM700 a month, and the final installment is RM340, the "overpayment" would be used to reduce the RM340 to something lower.

3. As such, the "overpayment" does NOT affect affect the original repayment schedule; i.e Following the example above, if you are scheduled to pay off your loan in 360 months, by putting RM70,000 into the account, you are simply deducting 100 months from the total date of maturity (which is 360 months). This is the OPPPOSITE of a FLEXI loan facility, whereby if you were to put RM70,000 into the loan account, your loans-outstanding is reduced, thus you pay less total interest (because interest is calculated based on the loans-outstanding), and your repayment schedule is shortened (you pay less number of installments)

tl;dr: Based on the definition, the loan account has no FLEXI facility at all, even if you pay extra each month, you are just pissing your money away. Better put the money in unit trust or other investment accounts and pay your loan according to the schedule.
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Dear wild_card_my,

Thanks for your explanation. I understand it now. I will contact my banker to clarify because my loan is supposed to be a FULL FLEXI loan whereby I am allowed to reduce the principal of my housing loan.

It seems though that loan documents are "standard" somewhat. There are other terms which only apply to SEMI FLEXI in other clauses but my banker has told me those do not apply since mine is a FULL FLEXI package. One example is the requirement to give the bank notice of withdrawal of any excess payments I made. By right, a FULL FLEXI loan does not require any notice for input / withdrawal of additional funds and my banker has confirmed that it is not required, but the clause stays since the agreement is standard.

Are there any risks to that? Having such clauses in the "standard" agreement despite them not being applicable to my package?


EDIT: confirmed with banker, the answer is expected - this is standard documentation and does not apply in my case. Any excess payment I make can be used (automatically) to reduce my principal.

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