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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries v2, Loan agents pls read the 1st post!

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christopheryam
post Apr 10 2013, 10:35 AM

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I need OCBC banker advise.

1) if i have a loan of RM1.7mil with OCBC. if i early settle RM1mil into loan account, i still need to pay installment? or need to write in to waive installment?

2) since loan facility always on reducing basis, how can i know what is the max redraw-able limit i have?

3) if i would like to redraw, am i need to have a current account or saving account for OCBC to bank in money?

4) whenever i have extra money, can i just direct bank into loan account and how OCBC treat this money?ie i suka suka bank in RM10k via cash deposit machine..
OCBC direct reduce principal or treat as advance payment?
christopheryam
post Apr 11 2013, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Apr 10 2013, 02:17 PM)
Hello Christopher,

1. It depends on your facility agreement stated in the offer letter and to a larger extent, your loan facility agreement. But a typical account will require that you pay the scheduled installment rate; following your situation, from the date of RM1 million CAPITAL REPAYMENT, for each of your installment the percentage that goes to pay the OUTSTANDING BALANCE is higher than the percentage that goes to pay the INTEREST.

Your loan tenure is automatically shorten this way too.

2. Max redrawable is the amount that you have put in. Minimum per withdrawal is RM1000 and with incriment of RM1000. So let's say you have deposited RM26000, you cannot take out RM23,500, you can take out RM23,000 or RM24,000

3. Yes, unfortunately they have changed the rules. You need to have OCBC's savings or current account. On the up side, you will get your money quicker this way. There is a special condition that they will issue a cheque if you can prove that you cannot open an OCBC account - if you are overseas, etc.

4. If you deposit the money into your account through Cash Deposit Machine, the money will be considered as ADVANCED PAYMENT. This way you do not need to pay your monthly installments for the months that can be covered by your ADVANCED PAYMENT. This is good for those who are working for an extended period overseas or on the oil rigs. For the money to be deposited as CAPITAL REPAYMENT, you need to do it through the counter or by using a cheque and write in the back FOR CAPITAL REPAYMENT ONLY

Additionally, OCBC's flexi account has no RM10 charge a month, so you would save a RM4800 over the course of 40 years.

I hope I have answered your questions.
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Thanks wild card, very detail..

come back to no 1, if my loan is RM1.5mil, i made RM 1mil capital repayment. if i would like to enjoy the "flexibility" for not paying monthly installment, can i request not to pay monthly installment as long as the RM1mil can cover?
you know, like full flexi loan with current account, customer can enjoy leaving RM1mil in current account and he can even not visit the bank for 2-3 years. no need bother to make monthly installment.

no 2, any source for me to check how much max i can withdraw? ie internet banking, go over to counter to check.

no 3, the only way to do redrawal is walk in to branch to fill in forms? will OCBC staff request to do standard verification/ scan IC, thumb print?
i need to walk in to home branch or any branch also can do redrawal? can i fax the redrawal form to customer service department so i don't need to travel to OCBC branch?

lastly if my loan is RM1.5mil, can i do capital repayment of RM1.5mil, but still continue the facility? ie i might want to redraw few years later when i need money.

Thanks.


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post Apr 11 2013, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Apr 11 2013, 08:42 AM)
Hello,

1. If you want to choose not to pay any monthly installment, you would need to state the payment as ADVANCE PAYMENT. By doing so, the payment will not help reduce the interest payment made into the account, it will only help you to not pay your upcoming monthly installments. So in short, the RM1mil you have deposited into the account can only be either:

a) CAPITAL REPAYMENT
b) ADVANCE PAYMENT

And not both at the same time. Of course, you can choose to split the money.

2. Normally I would say to go to the counter to check, as for the internet banking, I am not too sure. But I will get back to you on this.

3. Yeah, they would need to verify you for security purposes.

4. Once the loan account has reached 0 balance (no more outstanding amount), the account will be closed. So my advice would be to deposit not RM1.5 mil into the account, but to short it by paying perhaps RM1.4million and making sure that your monthly installments in the months that follow would not result to the closure of the account through completed payments - you can do this by withdrawing some of your deposits before that happens and the outstanding balance would jump back up.
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3) what type of verification to be done? are you mean that for each redrawal i will need to go to the branch and talk face to face to the staff that i want to redraw, then the staff will let me fill and sign the redrawal form?

or OCBC will call up to verify?

anyway to make the redrawal fast and easier? is personal banker/ priority banker able to make it less hassle to visit the branch?

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post Apr 11 2013, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Apr 11 2013, 09:06 AM)
2. You can use internet banking and phone banking to know how much WITHDRAWABLE CAPITAL you have

3. Verification in the sense of IC and thumbprint, the usual stuff. And yeah, one filled-up form for each withdrawal, meet the teller and hand it to him/her. They will verify you and you are good to go. 

As for the personal banker or priority banker, I am not too sure. Perhaps you can arrange something with the priority banker.
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thanks bro..

recently a lot of OCBC al-amin branch set up. can i walk in to OCBC-al-amin for my conventional loan purpose?
christopheryam
post Apr 11 2013, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Apr 11 2013, 01:41 PM)
Ah you are correct. After further checking, I found that I have been misinformed. I have edited some of my posts in response to that. Advanced payment can be used to reduced capital, only caveat is that it cannot be redrawn.
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i am curious, if i didn't write down on the cheque 'capital repayment' or 'advance payment' OCBC will treat as what?

i got additional question: if my loan is RM1.5mil, i paid RM 1mil as 'advance payment', can i convert 'advance payment' to 'capital repayment'? then i can withdraw from 'capital repayment' then.

this shd be workable right? but how to do this? go to the counter? or write in letter?

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post Apr 11 2013, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(seng870825 @ Apr 11 2013, 07:40 PM)
only advance payment is allow to withdraw , once u write in letter to request transfer into capital repayment then is not allow to withdraw anymore.
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seng kor, u know what is happening or not? pls read la.
christopheryam
post Apr 12 2013, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Apr 11 2013, 11:14 PM)
Sorry if I have confused you.

The default payments are going to be Installment OR Advanced Payment

Meaning if you pay cash through cash deposit machine, use a cheque without writing any special instructions, bank-in using online payment, pretty much everything, the cash will be used to pay the INSTALLMENT, and if there is any balance, will be treated as ADVANCED PAYMENT (which can reduce the capital outstanding, but cannot withdraw)

Now, if you want to make a CAPITAL REPAYMENT (which is used to reduce the capital outstanding, and is withdrawable), you need to either pay at the counter, or drop a cheque into the cheque deposit machine with the special instructions written on it as: FOR CAPITAL REPAYMENT ONLY

I hope that clears everything up, sorry for the confusion caused.
1. Ah, well that is the thing, payments made as ADVANCED PAYMENT cannot be withdrawn. The advantage is that the outstanding capital is reduced (so your interest charges per month is lower, but the installment is still the same), and you do not need to manually pay your installments since your ADVANCED PAYMENTS will be "eaten" up as your installments.

If you are planning to withdraw it, you should do a CAPITAL REPAYMENT. The advantage would be that your outstanding capital is reduced, and the money is withdrawable. But you would still need to pay your installments okay? It will not automatically be eaten up by the installment payments.

I really really hope that this clears everything up  notworthy.gif
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I understand very well on 'capital repayment' and 'advance payment', but i still strongly believe that there is a way to change from advance payment to capital repayment.

scenario, if i am a new to OCBC bank customer, taken a loan of RM1.5mil, ya i though OCBC loan is semi flexi, i go and write a cheque to dump in RM1 mil.

so OCBC will treat as 'advance payment'. After few month, i visit to the bank, hey i am new, i don know anything, the RM1 mil i need to withdraw..

OCBC definitely have a way to handle this right? to change 'advance payment' to 'capital repayment'.

 

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